Who do you want to finish off the 2020 class ?
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Dawson Garcia, Matt Cross.
Absolutely have to get someone over 6'8".
Absolutely have to get someone over 6'8".
Deontae Craig (Walk On from the Football Team)
Matt Cross
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Dawson Garcia
Matt Cross
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Dawson Garcia
Agreed. Barring another injury-plagued stretch, we should have our guard situation set for a few years. Would like to see Garcia or Loveday to add some height up front.
But you never know how recruits will turn out....
If we got Cross and Garcia/Loveday, I’d be extremely happy.
So far we have a couple role players. We need a couple stars to make it a good class. I’m not seeing “great” right now.
Like you have any idea what the words you’re typing mean. Lol.
Anunoby and Morgan were not a "good class". But Hanner and Hollowell were.
Curtis Jones was ranked a lot higher than Devonte Green.
Brian Evans and Kirk Haston both redshirted
Calbert Cheaney was not the star in his recruiting class.
AJ Guyton wasn't highly ranked.
What is it you "see" that leads you to think Leal and Galloway can't be really good players?
Cross and a 1 year grad transfer. We need as many scholarships as possible for 2021.
solid bullet points all the way around. I know Calbert was injured his sr yr in high school, and no personal knock on Charlie Miller...but I think Charlie was 'rated' higher than Calbert. Let that sink in.
I'm betting some of the bigs that are considering IU are taking the Brooks approach- wait and see how the upcoming season plays out. Brooks was leaning our way until we pulled off that O for January and the fire CAM crowd started making noise. This upcoming season is of utmost importance to the success of the next 5+ yrs. Things need to settle in and vector upwards this year.
Very hypocritical of the anti CAM crowd WRT the Leal signing. If he chose Stanford, they would be on this board crucifying CAM. But he signs, and suddenly all CAM did was sign a local 'role' player. Pretty certain Kitchel and Randy Whitman would not have been 5 star OADs coming out of HS but I'd take those two in a heartbeat right now. CAM could use a few hard ass tough local boys who can shoot. They don't wither in front of hostile road crowds on a cold February night, or rest a few games when they have a thigh 'contusion'.
He’s an anti-IU troll and isn’t to be taken seriously.
How do you know Brooks was "leaning our way"? I never really got that impression other than his talk about representing his home state. I feel like unless you had inside info, this is quite a strong claim to make, as I don't remember much indication he was leaning in any direction until not long before his commitment (choosing between a loaded NBA factory or the chance to help turn around a program long on the decline). I don't remember him showing up to very many games (while TJD was here very frequently with Franklin). Just feel like this is another bit of revisionist history designed by people who never wanted CAM to get the job...
Because IU currently has 11 for next year leaving 2 available slots, and they will only have Brunk at the 5, with sophomore PF TJD and junior Race Thompson. Throw in Smith at 6'7" if you'd like, and you have very few guys who can defend the post and rebound in the Big Ten. They have already tried it (by necessity) the past 2 seasons and it doesn't work.
I would want to get a big man like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar a.k.a. Lou Alcindor or Bill Walton. As a floor I would like to get a big man who can actually play basketball unlke some of the people that clappity clap Tom Green would bring in
Dawson Garcia is a highly rated 6'11" player who can shoot. The other true center is a guy with hyphenated name who was possibly going to reclassify from 21 to 20, and I can't remwmber his name but he was not highly rated and would either need to be a sleeper or develop.
Javonte Brown-Ferguson. Has offers from Kansas, Maryland, Georgetown. Loveday is a true center and still in the mix and likely our best bet for a big.
You can call these guys role players if you wish fpeaugh but I kinda liked guys like Kreigh Smith,Steve Eyl and Winston Morgan on my team any day. I think you will be eating your words by the time these guys are sophs.
I could argue we need a true ball handler more than we need a true big man. Neither Galloway or Leal are that and right now, Archie wants Cross more than anything, leaving us with one open scholarship.
There’s always anomalies to everything. If you’re relying on anomalies though to be successful you’re not going to like the results very often.
Would you rather be the casino or the gambler? Or course the gambler wins sometimes, that’s what keeps them coming back, but the odds are in the casino’s favor. Same thing exists with recruiting rankings.
“Anomalies” is a big word for you. I’m surprised you would know what it means. It’s “there are always anomalies,” not “there’s always anomalies,” and I’m not surprised you got that wrong.
Kaufman and Furst aren't gonna go to the same school. Again, they won't even play on the same AAU team, so why would they pick the same college. They think they have the same style of play (They don't).
Really happy with the 2 recruits we got so far, hard to be disappointed with the Indiana mr. basketball in any given season especially when you grab the top 2 players from the state. That being said, I think Matt Cross is a must at this point for more size and shooting, we definitely need a center as well but I don't want to take players just to take them if Archie doesn't think he can land his top targets.
Part of the reason this year is so big is so that we can impress the star recruits in the 2021 class (Furst, Kaufman, Lander, ect..) and we will need an extra scholarship or two to make that a monster class. That class actually might tell the tale on whether or not Archie is going to be able to get us to a final 4 in the near future, hopefully he pulls it off.
Part of the reason this year is so big is so that we can impress the star recruits in the 2021 class (Furst, Kaufman, Lander, ect..) and we will need an extra scholarship or two to make that a monster class. That class actually might tell the tale on whether or not Archie is going to be able to get us to a final 4 in the near future, hopefully he pulls it off.
I agree with your overall premise in this post. That being said, are you really suggesting that the IU fans that were critical of CAM and the team during that horrible stretch were the reason that Keion chose Kentucky, and not the stretch itself?
If so that opinion makes no sense, fans have every right to be critical of a team/coaching staff, especially when they go over a month playing with no enthusiasm and laying one egg after another.
Keion removed IU because of how bad they looked over that stretch. He chose Kentucky because they are successful on the court and they put a lot of guys in the NBA. Anyone that tells you otherwise is lying.
what I am suggesting is that the program needed to build momentum last year, as recruiting is about program 'momentum' (ie check Memphis current day) as much as anything else, at least for IU's sake. And what happened to IU's season last year, specifically from Christmas (when I believe we cracked one of the top 25 polls an stood at 12-2) and the first week of February, absolutely drained the program of any and all momentum. 5 star recruits have to be extremely leery of committing to a program whose head coach is not standing on sure footing (honestly would we have landed Romeo if not for the Louisville scandal? ). Based on contract status, I believe CAM is stable here for at least 2 more years. But if I was another power 5 head coach trying to land one of the recruits we are pursuing, I would have little trouble making a case otherwise after last season....and previous seasons.
That was my point. I don't know when Brooks ultimately made his final decision, but what happened to IU last winter made his decision a helluva a lot easier to understand.
Actually my real point was aimed at the anti-CAM crowd and how they were going to bitch and moan if Leal chose Stanford, but immediately devalue him as a recruit as soon as he chose IU. I'm not an anti-CAM guy, I really hope this season starts the upward trajectory I mentioned above. Another coaching change is going to set the program back again and it will take 5 yrs for the dust to settle.
"Just feel like this is another bit of revisionist history designed by people who never wanted CAM to get the job..." I am NOT one of those people. I hope CAM succeeds. I don't want to write off another 5 yrs while we navigate through yet another coaching change.
Maybe 'leaning our way' was a bit of overstatement. But he was not considered a "Kentucky lean" on Dec 1. The losses during January--not just the losses, but bad losses, uninspired play (and I still believe there was something going on in the locker room during this time) ...made Brooks' decision very easy to understand.
I hope it works out for Brooks. He would have seen a lot of playing time, and shots, at IU, and will have to fight for it in Lexington.
Can’t argue the facts so you turn to grammar police on a message board. Sounds like you.
Funny. When do you provide facts to argue?
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