Quote me where I said "we don't need a good QB".lol OK..... you were arguing with me after I said we needed a good QB to win.
Who disagrees with that?
You're arguing with yourself.
Stop making stuff up.
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Quote me where I said "we don't need a good QB".lol OK..... you were arguing with me after I said we needed a good QB to win.
Who disagrees with that?
You're arguing with yourself.
I said we need a good QB to win. You said we don't need a stud QB to win.Quote me where I said "we don't need a good QB".
Stop making stuff up.
Yeah, good thing our QBs were never under pressure when Shivers was in there.Shivers as much better in pass pro, which is a huge deal in three and four wide sets like we run. O Coordinators and RB coaches value that, as do quarterbacks who are constantly under pressure due to inconsistent O line play.
Quote me where I said "we don't need a good QB".
Stop making stuff up.
If I'm not arguing with you then why do you care and why are you such a Crank?I said we need a good QB to win. You said we don't need a stud QB to win.
You're arguing with yourself.
I like to poke DANC the Crank sometimes.So long story short, you both agree we need a good QB but enjoy arguing anyway
Just imagine what it would have been had the best guy (Shivers) not been in there?Yeah, good thing our QBs were never under pressure when Shivers was in there.
Just because he was the "better" running back at pass blocking didn't make him a "good" at it. As I stated above, if they knew they were throwing it every down and weren't even considering using the running back, get him out of there and use a TE to block.Shivers as much better in pass pro, which is a huge deal in three and four wide sets like we run. O Coordinators and RB coaches value that, as do quarterbacks who are constantly under pressure due to inconsistent O line play.
He’s in there because there has to be a run threat for the D to address. Putting a tight end in the backfield to block isn‘t as challenging for the D as is the threat of a back who can run or pass (which tends to slow down the aggressiveness of a pass rush).Just because he was the "better" running back at pass blocking didn't make him a "good" at it. As I stated above, if they knew they were throwing it every down and weren't even considering using the running back, get him out of there and use a TE to block.
just my opinion.
No, he's not. I know that's the common belief on this board, but it's wrong.Shivers as much better in pass pro, which is a huge deal in three and four wide sets like we run. O Coordinators and RB coaches value that, as do quarterbacks who are constantly under pressure due to inconsistent O line play.
The coaches watch the games, too, and they all believed Shovers was better. Feel free to disagree with them, as well.No, he's not. I know that's the common belief on this board, but it's wrong.
If you watched the games, you'd know.
Actually Shovers was really terrible. He just shoved people around instead of blocking.The coaches watch the games, too, and they all believed Shovers was better. Feel free to disagree with them, as well.
Agree completely, but most here will admit Shovers was certainly better than Nudger. What in the he'll was that guy doing?Actually Shovers was really terrible. He just shoved people around instead of blocking.
It always amazes me how other teams can getExcept ours WRs didn't get open last year.
I can't speak for the coaches...but Shivers graded a 19.9 on his 72 pass blocking opportunities last season per PFF. 60 is average.The coaches watch the games, too, and they all believed Shovers was better. Feel free to disagree with them, as well.
Was there a grade for Henderson?I can't speak for the coaches...but Shivers graded a 19.9 on his 72 pass blocking opportunities last season per PFF. 60 is average.
46 pass block opportunities with a PFF pass blocking grade of 34. Only had one game last season with more than 5 opportunities.Was there a grade for Henderson?
Sounds like an issue for the HC, IC and RB coaches.46 pass block opportunities with a PFF pass blocking grade of 34. Only had one game last season with more than 5 opportunities.
I expect a lot of run-heavy RPO. 75% run 25% pass. I can see a few read-option plays to keep the D honest but not to the extent that risks our QBs. QB runs maybe 5-10 times, max. 3 RBs get 40+ carries per game total . Gone are the days of 40-50 attempts per game with the QB throwing 15-20, max. Passing plays are mostly slants shallow crosses with a few deep balls.
I agree about Dexter and think coach DeBoer was right about him and his ability.as i've said before, i'd run nothing but crossing routes with some go routes deep mixed in once in a while, for pass routes.
that said, the pocket is not the future.
2 - 3 seconds in the pocket to get it off, 4-5 plus seconds to get it off for QBs who can buy time.
receivers get a lot more open in 4-5-6 seconds than 2.5.
i have no problem with a QB throwing it a lot, as long as he has the ability to buy his own time to get it off. (and we move the pocket).
if Dexter ever comes back 100%, i think he's a star.
I agree that the pocket is not the future. I would like to see us roll the pocket, misdirection play-action bootlegs, roll-outs. I would be OK with lots of little passes to the RB and in the flat or on screens - that's just an extension of the run game imo.as i've said before, i'd run nothing but crossing routes with some go routes deep mixed in once in a while, for pass routes.
that said, the pocket is not the future.
2 - 3 seconds in the pocket to get it off, 4-5 plus seconds to get it off for QBs who can buy time.
receivers get a lot more open in 4-5-6 seconds than 2.5.
i have no problem with a QB throwing it a lot, as long as he has the ability to buy his own time to get it off. (and we move the pocket).
if Dexter ever comes back 100%, i think he's a star.