So you know where I'm coming from, my favorite candidate was Elizabeth Warren, who is not exactly a squish.
We are cruisin for a bruisin
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I’m not advocating for Bernie. That said; I wasn’t for Hillary either.
You answered the questions fairly though.
We disagree on the answers.
But I couldn’t agree more that Bernie’s insistence on calling himself a socialist was a head scratcher. A
I think the US would be in much better shape had anyone other than who we have won.
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We know Trump doesn't understand the word "majority", since he's been posting nonsense about the "silent majority" for the past couple days. Nixon used that term, but at least Nixon could point to getting MORE votes...
In what universe does nearly 3 Million less than your opponent (11 Million if we add in the 8 Million who hated Trump but decided to vote for 3rd party rather than Clinton) constitute a "majority"?
So in 2018 when between 10-11 Million more people voted for Dems than GOP would you say that the GOP failed to listen to what the people wanted? Why do you think House Dems felt they were politically safe to Impeach twinkle toes?
Its not really news. One of my sisters has an MHA from Columbia looked at Singapore's pandemic strategy & execution said it was standard fare with a few localisation. The Singapore (technocratic) ministers of the Covid-19 taskforce here were all US university-educated and in fact, is led by a Badger.
It's very clear (when you compare with the countries that have been successful in minimising the damage) that Trump poisoned the well early by politicising it and is culpable for the deaths of thousands of people.
But you only have to look at the countries around the world that have suffered the worst eg Top 5 they are led by right-wing nut jobs like Brazil, UK, US, Russia and India all early Covid-19 deniers.
Russia's covid problem:
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It's a mistake to count all those 8 million third party voters as potential Clinton voters or all anti-Trump votes. If there were no third party candidates some portion would have voted for Trump and some portion would have voted for Clinton. Another portion wouldn't have voted at all. I've seen Trump supporters add those 8 million to Trump's total and claim the total as votes against Clinton. They're making the same mistake.
If anyone wants further proof, even the Governor of Texas is making threats about wearing masks.
yeah awful. florida is blowing up. memorial day. protests. bars and beaches. rallies. and now we're coming up on the 4th of july. youth fall sports are starting now as well. i wonder if we'll get more lockdowns. unreal.
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I've said before I'm not convinced that the counts of "confirmed cases" based on testing are a good measure of the breadth of infections. I'm much more interested in the rate of hospitalizations and deaths. Those numbers aren't going to be subject to all the shortcomings our testing regime has, and aren't nearly so subject to "interpretation".
From what I've seen, hospitalizations are way up in certain areas like FL and AZ and TX, and certain locations like Houston are approaching the same overwhelmed state that NYC went through.
Speaking of masks, we took our kid to the Indy zoo today, from Bloomington, and stopped at a Speedway, just south of Greenwood. We had our masks on, but nobody else did, not even the employees and it was quite busy in there. We stopped again at another Speedway right next to the zoo and same thing, not one person was wearing a mask. We did see quite a few masks at the zoo, though.
I’m interested in those too, but new cases are rising way faster than new testing. States like Florida, Texas, and Arizona are now about where New York was in March. And California is rising again.
Hospitalizations lag new cases, and deaths lag hospitalizations. If policy makers wait until the trend becomes pronounced in hospitalizations and deaths, they’ve waited too long. The cat is out of the barn. (I got this from a Twitter thread about internally mixed metaphors.)
Fundamentally though, what we’re seeing is the Trump administration’s abject failure. Trump is no longer even pretending to care about this, and he’s ruined our formerly elite public health agencies, which are left bystanders to events. This colossal failure is literally killing people.
The core belief of traditional Republicanism has generally been: government = bad. Maybe if we stopped electing people who believed that we’d have a government that didn’t suck — that wasn’t corrupt and incompetent and killing us.
If nothing else, I wish we’d abandon the notion that politics is something any idiot can do — indeed to abandon the notion that we actually like when idiots do it. We’re electing people to jobs. We should care if they’re good at those jobs. Ultimately we’re their boss. So maybe we shouldn’t be Michael Scott.
(I drifted a little there.)
People are wondering about a second wave while the first wave is still thrashing us. Hello?
better measures, but still far from perfect. The variation on what counts as a CoVID death varies considerably and we’ve read about hospitals purposefully counting deaths as COVID for reimbursement reasons.
there’s also the lag issue with hospitalizations and deaths vs infections
Interesting data from GA
Under 18: 1 death
18-29: 12,882 cases, 11 deaths
30-39: 10,981 cases, 45 deaths
40-49: 11,171 cases, 102 deaths
50-59: 11,147 cases, 222 deaths
Under 18: 1 death
18-29: 12,882 cases, 11 deaths
30-39: 10,981 cases, 45 deaths
40-49: 11,171 cases, 102 deaths
50-59: 11,147 cases, 222 deaths
Like I said earlier the measures is one thing but the Comms strategy is non existent or at worst poisoned. He is definitely culpable.
The only way you will get another lockdown is when you are on the edge of a catastrophe. People just won't listen now and if they did, you won't have enough to adhere to it to make it meaningful.
Trump played to people's simplistic, in my opinion, conditioned kneejerk response to threats in the country: 'freedom', constitution, xenophobia. It's almost Pavlovian. Whenever there is some national disaster where a malicious politician thinks it's just too difficult to manage or control like mass shootings -- they pull out the greatest hits and deflect the problem into it being threats to freedom, constitution etc.
People have been conditioned to think that's its their own shiny house/city on the hill given by some divine power that its so special, that somehow deep down it won't actually happen to themselves. Only to others. So they don't really care about the other folks.
What this pandemic has shown is that its literally country cobbled together by some emotional need to belong to some 'community', symbolised by some flag and a constitution.
But the reality its a bunch of lightly glued together sub-groups with different cultural/moral values who when push comes to shove, don't give a feck about anyone else outside their own groupings.
Politicians and the powers to be, know this and will leverage it at the most opportune times. Reminds me of how the British East India Company managed to rule over a country like colonial India for a couple of hundred of years; a population then of 300-400 million with only 20,000 troops.
Divide & conquer.
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Don't be so quick. I have it in my head he might be married to someone with Asian heritage. Or maybe it's Hack. Or maybe I'm nutz.
I’ve also read that the earth is flat.
People are so certain about how hospitals are ripping us off by claiming everyone with a sprained ankle has covid. And their proof is that there isn't any proof, just like all the other conspiracy theories.
Or they heard of one guy who smokes two packs of ciggies a day and lived to 90 as proof that smoking doesn't kill. Fake science.
Or they heard it from their best friend who said His cousin’s wife who is a nurse told him that she heard about it.
It turns put that when they diagnose flu deaths, they do not need a test. They just go by symptoms consistent with. So it really is an apples to apples comparison. But that has not been the narrative.
The Russian social media sites win the debate.
JDB, health concerns just llike economics go haywire when mixed with politics. As a business analyst you above all at The Cooler most certainly know this.
Have you seen how many false claims and fraud cases there are that involve hospitals and providers overall?
Marvin I would bet my life that this is taking place. The second the reimbursement boost was approved any respiratory issue/pneumonia like complaint presented was coded for covid. with hundreds of thousands of cases no one is auditing every single insurance charge. we're not being ripped off. insurance might be getting bilked and presumably that cost might be spread with higher premiums for all of us, but we're not directly being "ripped" off. but hospital billing is an industry unto itself. i guarantee there is abuse.
And I don’t mean to imply that this practice is masking the pandemic or exaggerating it in any meaningful way. I just know that if a hospital has an opportunity to inflate a bill they will.
And I don’t mean to imply that this practice is masking the pandemic or exaggerating it in any meaningful way. I just know that if a hospital has an opportunity to inflate a bill they will.
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Wouldn't taxpayers be impacted since Medicare and Medicaid are likely absorbing a considerable amount of this?
Now that testing flows like the Mississippi, are hospitals actually substituting positive tests for negative?
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https://www.businessinsider.com/ger...for-500000-people-after-covid-19-spike-2020-6
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