Lots of Russian bots/reddit thedonald people who aren't actually his fans spamming the comments.
Personally very proud of him for using his platform.
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Oladipo is one of my all time favorite Hoosiers because he was an outstanding player who exceeded expectations and was, and seems still, a good guy. I don’t care who he endorses, but others might. My only comment is that the hyper partisans on the left would be doing the bashing if he endorsed the Republican and the right side would be complaining about the bashing. That’s the way it is in this country and it’s many times worse now that every person on the internet has a way to express his opinion, no matter how infantile and stupid that opinion might be.People should be proud of Dipo. He represents us Hoosiers in a very positive way. He is not bashing or attacking anyone. No matter what you believe you should proud to call that young man a fellow Hoosier. He will try and use his platform and resources for good. More then most can claim.
Yes, only troll bots or those suffering from extreme tribalism would bash him.
I never put much stock in celebrity opinions, but it is a platform.
Lots of Russian bots/reddit thedonald people who aren't actually his fans spamming the comments.
Personally very proud of him for using his platform.
Oladipo is one of my all time favorite Hoosiers because he was an outstanding player who exceeded expectations and was, and seems still, a good guy. I don’t care who he endorses, but others might. My only comment is that the hyper partisans on the left would be doing the bashing if he endorsed the Republican and the right side would be complaining about the bashing. That’s the way it is in this country and it’s many times worse now that every person on the internet has a way to express his opinion, no matter how infantile and stupid that opinion might be.
Oladipo is one of my all time favorite Hoosiers because he was an outstanding player who exceeded expectations and was, and seems still, a good guy. I don’t care who he endorses, but others might. My only comment is that the hyper partisans on the left would be doing the bashing if he endorsed the Republican and the right side would be complaining about the bashing. That’s the way it is in this country and it’s many times worse now that every person on the internet has a way to express his opinion, no matter how infantile and stupid that opinion might be.
So fracking what? It's a point with no point. This kind of back and forth needs to stop if we ever hope to have any kind of instructive/constructive dialog. I'm doing my level best not to engage in this, and am pointing it out when I see it. It's expected from the idjits, but you and I can and should do better.Sorry, but that’s a really dumb comment. What I said was reality and reality should be acknowledged. I’m not defending the bashers in any way, just pointing out that the bashers would be criticizing the bashers of Oladipo if Oladipo had endorsed Braun.
What has to stop is the stupid stuff from both extremes - or at least we shouldn’t pretend the extremes represent the rest of us. We do that and we will all do better. Making “yabbut” comments about reality isn’t doing better.So fracking what? It's a point with no point. This kind of back and forth needs to stop if we ever hope to have any kind of instructive/constructive dialog. I'm doing my level best not to engage in this, and am pointing it out when I see it. It's expected from the idjits, but you and I can and should do better.
Very true. It is not brave at all for a black man or woman to come out for the Democrats. If they come out for the Republicans then that is another matter. Look at how they treat Colin Powell, Condaleeza Rice, Kanye West, and Candace Owens.Oladipo is one of my all time favorite Hoosiers because he was an outstanding player who exceeded expectations and was, and seems still, a good guy. I don’t care who he endorses, but others might. My only comment is that the hyper partisans on the left would be doing the bashing if he endorsed the Republican and the right side would be complaining about the bashing. That’s the way it is in this country and it’s many times worse now that every person on the internet has a way to express his opinion, no matter how infantile and stupid that opinion might be.
Actually, is there a rational basis for saying that Oladipo's opinion is more, or less, valid than Mike Braun's opinion?I never put much stock in celebrity opinions, but it is a platform.
To turn the cheek is speaking about offense. When people offend you then you don't attack back. Believe me this is hard to do at times. It goes against human nature. The reason why Jesus was able to be silent while others hurled insults at Him because He was the perfect Son of God clothed in human flesh. None of us are as perfect which is why of course He needed to die on the Cross in our place. Praise His Name forever!!!It wasn't brave for Jesus to get nailed to the cross because he was a liberal who advocated turning the other cheek.
There is a time and a place for everything, and choosing a private business supported by fans who probably don't agree with his sympathies by more than half the population is not helpful to himself or his employer. My grandson is a police officer, a husband, and a super dad. He calls his grandmother on his way to work nearly every day, and in return we pray for his safety. In his work he is required to wait until those he is dealing with to throw the first punch, or draw the first weapon. He deals with gang members who vow to not "go down" without a fight. It is a proven fact that if a police officer waits until a perpetrator produces a weapon he will almost certainly be wounded or killed. I don't expect to change anyone's way of thinking, but I also know that I would not get in everyone's face who comes to root for me, and their favorite team. I am truly disappointed in Victor in whom I have held up to others as an example selflessness, and charity.
Lots of Russian bots/reddit thedonald people who aren't actually his fans spamming the comments.
Personally very proud of him for using his platform.
Honestly, outside of their respective areas of expertise (at least the non-overlapping ones), there really isn't.Actually, is there a rational basis for saying that Oladipo's opinion is more, or less, valid than Mike Braun's opinion?
This story could be summarized as "Successful young man gets involved in adopted home state he cares deeply about, stands up for his convictions."
Lots of Russian bots/reddit thedonald people who aren't actually his fans spamming the comments.
Personally very proud of him for using his platform.
Wut??There is a time and a place for everything, and choosing a private business supported by fans who probably don't agree with his sympathies by more than half the population is not helpful to himself or his employer. My grandson is a police officer, a husband, and a super dad. He calls his grandmother on his way to work nearly every day, and in return we pray for his safety. In his work he is required to wait until those he is dealing with to throw the first punch, or draw the first weapon. He deals with gang members who vow to not "go down" without a fight. It is a proven fact that if a police officer waits until a perpetrator produces a weapon he will almost certainly be wounded or killed. I don't expect to change anyone's way of thinking, but I also know that I would not get in everyone's face who comes to root for me, and their favorite team. I am truly disappointed in Victor in whom I have held up to others as an example selflessness, and charity.
Lots of Russian bots/reddit thedonald people who aren't actually his fans spamming the comments.
Personally very proud of him for using his platform.
Those who have taken a knee in the NFL have declared it was in support of BLM, and not an attack on our country. I support our law enforcement. If this is about anything else I apologize, but with that being said I still contend there is a time and a place for everything, and to argue politics with your fans who only come to see a game is wrong.WTF is that all about?
Not that lurker needs or wants my defense, but it seems pretty obvious to me. VPM was employing that time-honored argument that a black man is only brave if he stands up to liberalism, not for it. Lurker was turning this around on VPM by pointing out the theory that Jesus himself was (what might have passed for in that time) a liberal. I'm not saying I agree with the historical interpretation Lurker holds here, but the point he's making - that VPM sees "bravery" in purely partisan terms - seems pretty obvious.Still doesn’t make sense. I’m glad it makes sense to you. I guess.
Lol, yeah, "he probably doesnt understand" since he is extremely bright, savvy, and a responsible adult...I sure hope he grows up soon and owns his actions! Perhaps u can enlighten him with your obvious wisdom. I could only hope the idiot in chief would show as much maturity.
He means to insult VPM, slander Jesus and insult the beliefs of Christianity. Evil purpose. Evil post.I know your mind works in very mysterious ways and I cannot fathom what that means or what point you’re trying to make.
Don’t get it. Wasn’t Jesus doing what wasn’t expected of a Jew?Not that lurker needs or wants my defense, but it seems pretty obvious to me. VPM was employing that time-honored argument that a black man is only brave if he stands up to liberalism, not for it. Lurker was turning this around on VPM by pointing out the theory that Jesus himself was (what might have passed for in that time) a liberal. I'm not saying I agree with the historical interpretation Lurker holds here, but the point he's making - that VPM sees "bravery" in purely partisan terms - seems pretty obvious.
You think Victor is supporting Joe because of NFL kneeling? That’s quite a stretch there.Those who have taken a knee in the NFL have declared it was in support of BLM, and not an attack on our country. I support our law enforcement. If this is about anything else I apologize, but with that being said I still contend there is a time and a place for everything, and to argue politics with your fans who only come to see a game is wrong.WTF is that all about?
No Olidipo had a job before Trump became President. He is supporting him because he has the luxury and can afford too...it’s the majority of other black people that only became employed after Trump become President that can’t afford to support Joe....You think Victor is supporting Joe because of NFL kneeling? That’s quite a stretch there.
Actually, he really was not, which is why his actions are so memorable. But that's not really the point. It's obvious to me what Lurker was saying about VPM. That's all I was saying. I'm surprised this is not obvious to you as well.Don’t get it. Wasn’t Jesus doing what wasn’t expected of a Jew?
Certain people get my humor. You often don't. SOmetimes when you don't, you say you're playing me, thus denying you don't get it. You don't get it often enough for me to doubt the veracity of your denials. Then again, you had higher standards for honesty in your training. In short, tough bounce if you don't get my humor.Still doesn’t make sense. I’m glad it makes sense to you. I guess.
This post of yours has nothing to do with the conversation that was actually happening.My explanation of the passage showed that it was taken out of context. Jesus was speaking those who offend you. That is what striking the cheek is talking about.
I think that’s exactly the point. A black guy supporting a Democrat is as expected, therefore a black guy supporting a Republican would be unexpected and even brave. Jesus acting like a devout Jew would be expected and doing what he did would be unexpected - and obviously brave as it got him crucified. This is why lurker’s joke makes no sense and not humorous.Actually, he really was not, which is why his actions are so memorable. But that's not really the point. It's obvious to me what Lurker was saying about VPM. That's all I was saying. I'm surprised this is not obvious to you as well.
I get when you’re trying to make a joke. You don’t get why some of your jokes aren’t humorous.Certain people get my humor. You often don't. SOmetimes when you don't, you say you're playing me, thus denying you don't get it. You don't get it often enough for me to doubt the veracity of your denials. Then again, you had higher standards for honesty in your training. In short, tough bounce if you don't get my humor.
This story could be summarized as "Successful young man gets involved in adopted home state he cares deeply about, stands up for his convictions."
Not sure why anyone should object to that.
I understand that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Do you? I get that humor is an art form. Do you? I get that art appreciation has nothing to do with criticism but rather sharing one's enjoyment. Do you?I get when you’re trying to make a joke. You don’t get why some of your jokes aren’t humorous.
But Jesus wasn't acting like a devout Jew. That's sort of one of the major themes of the gospels.I think that’s exactly the point. A black guy supporting a Democrat is as expected, therefore a black guy supporting a Republican would be unexpected and even brave. Jesus acting like a devout Jew would be expected and doing what he did would be unexpected - and obviously brave as it got him crucified. This is why lurker’s joke makes no sense and not humorous.
But Jesus wasn't acting like a devout Jew. That's sort of one of the major themes of the gospels.
I'm not offended that Kanye likes Trump. I don't get it, but I'm not personally offended by it. I don't understand why people get personally offended by celebrities disagreeing with them. They are people, too; they are entitled to their opinions. That includes Dipo. The thread on the premie board about this topic was...ugly, to say the least.No objection here. I disagree with his choice politically but that does not change my high opinion of the guy.
We used to be able to do that in this country a little more regularly than we do now. Politics is such a teeny tiny part of all of our lives yet we let it have an oversized presence at the table.
You do you Vic and I'll do me politically and I will still be a fan of how you play the game and the way you have conducted yourself off the court. Outside of social media and the extremes on each side (which I think are growing), that is how a good deal of the country operates.
It's decidedly not the point Aloha was making. It's exactly the opposite.I believe that was the point Aloha was making.
I'm not offended that Kanye likes Trump. I don't get it, but I'm not personally offended by it. I don't understand why people get personally offended by celebrities disagreeing with them. They are people, too; they are entitled to their opinions. That includes Dipo. The thread on the premie board about this topic was...ugly, to say the least.
Buncha farkin' snowflakes, man. Just can't accept that other people might disagree. What a time we live in.
It's decidedly not the point Aloha was making. It's exactly the opposite.
Jesus acting like a devout Jew would be expected and doing what he did would be unexpected - and obviously brave as it got him crucified.
But Jesus wasn't acting like a devout Jew. That's sort of one of the major themes of the gospels.
Of course he wasn’t, which is why a Jewish religious leader he was going against the grain.But Jesus wasn't acting like a devout Jew. That's sort of one of the major themes of the gospels.
“Just can’t accept that other people might disagree.”I'm not offended that Kanye likes Trump. I don't get it, but I'm not personally offended by it. I don't understand why people get personally offended by celebrities disagreeing with them. They are people, too; they are entitled to their opinions. That includes Dipo. The thread on the premie board about this topic was...ugly, to say the least.
Buncha farkin' snowflakes, man. Just can't accept that other people might disagree. What a time we live in.
It was exactly the point!It's decidedly not the point Aloha was making. It's exactly the opposite.
You just keep telling those jokes, Butch. That’s what you’re. . .well, just keep telling those jokes.I understand that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Do you? I get that humor is an art form. Do you? I get that art appreciation has nothing to do with criticism but rather sharing one's enjoyment. Do you?
For you to say a joke is not humorous, as if it's not humorous for anyone other than the joke maker has got to be one of the most ridiculous statements ever made on the WC. No joke.
Of course he wasn’t, which is why a Jewish religious leader he was going against the grain.
These two posts are contradictory.It was exactly the point!