Very interesting arrest in Ukraine...

[cosmickid]

Since we had a ridiculous "gotcha" thread about the debunking of a theory regarding Trump and the FBI headquarters (which was never even discussed here), I figured I'd start a thread about another nail in the ill-advised Impeachment inquiry coffin...

Someone recently brought up the issue of the Natl Security advisors who said they were leery of the Hunter laptop as a possible Russian disinformation...

I've been very effusive in pointing out how Lev Parnas knew where all the bodies were buried, and how he had previously testified that both he and Rudy were told by Vitaly Pruss on May 29, 2019 that Russians had hacked into Hunter's laptop in 2014.Again the significance of the May date is that it was about 6 months before computer repair shop owner Mac Issacson notified both the FBI and Trump associates of the contents he found on Hunter's laptop...

So yesterday in Ukraine an MP with ties to Rudy was arrested along with two associates and charged with high treason. Specifically they were charged with being a member of a Russian Military Intelligence group under the direction of the GRU that worked to destabilize relations between the US and Ukraine by spreading disinformation...

How does Rudy figure in?

" A Ukrainian MP who in 2019 helped former U.S. President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani in his search for dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden has been charged with treason."

Nothing like the fox guarding the hen house. Rudy is desperately looking to find dirt on Biden, and low and behold he (unwittingly?) enlists the aid of 3 people who are actually tasked by the GRU with spreading disinformation to discredit Biden. A match made in Hell...

"Oleksandr Dubinsky, together with ex-Ukrainian lawmaker Andriy Derkach and ex-prosecutor Kostyantyn Kulyk, had joined an organization formed by chiefs of Russia’s Military Intelligence (GRU), Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) said in a statement on Monday."

Notice how all three are tied together (with useful idiot Rudy) in Russian GRU efforts to discredit Biden...From Politico.EU and the Kyiv Post...

"In October and November 2019, Dubinsky and Derkach gave several press conferences in Kyiv at which they claimed that based on an investigation by Kulyk, they had uncovered corruption and money-laundering schemes related to Burisma, a gas company which had future U.S. President Joe Biden’s son Hunter on its board of directors."

No doubt those 2 months of Burisma themed pressers got Trump and Rudy's attention...Rudy joined the party when he travelled to Ukraine a month later in Dec 2019...
"Dubinsky met Giuliani during his visit to Kyiv in December 2019 while the former New York City mayor and failed U.S. presidential candidate was filming a documentary aimed at discrediting an impeachment probe into Trump"

You can read more and get further details on poltico.eu and the Kyiv Post

Ukraine charges Rudy Giuliani’s top local ally with Moscow-linked treason

Ukraine’s security service says MP was undermining Kyiv-Washington relations under Russian military intelligence orders.

www.politico.eu

Ukrainian Lawmaker Dubinsky Charged with High Treason, Linked to Russian Subversive Group

Security Service sources told Kyiv Post that a Verkhovna Rada member is implicated in a high treason case against Ukraine for spreading false info about the higher political and military leadership.

www.kyivpost.com

Remember the claims made by some on this board (repeating Maga talking points) that Ukraine had tried to intervene on Biden's behalf in the 2020 election? Well that "story" was the result of a disinformation operation conducted by these 3 under GRU auspices...

I wonder who that "confidential informant" the Maga Comers keep touting is?

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Since we had a ridiculous "gotcha" thread about the debunking of a theory regarding Trump and the FBI headquarters (which was never even discussed here), I figured I'd start a thread about another nail in the ill-advised Impeachment inquiry coffin...

Someone recently brought up the issue of the Natl Security advisors who said they were leery of the Hunter laptop as a possible Russian disinformation...

I've been very effusive in pointing out how Lev Parnas knew where all the bodies were buried, and how he had previously testified that both he and Rudy were told by Vitaly Pruss on May 29, 2019 that Russians had hacked into Hunter's laptop in 2014.Again the significance of the May date is that it was about 6 months before computer repair shop owner Mac Issacson notified both the FBI and Trump associates of the contents he found on Hunter's laptop...

So yesterday in Ukraine an MP with ties to Rudy was arrested along with two associates and charged with high treason. Specifically they were charged with being a member of a Russian Military Intelligence group under the direction of the GRU that worked to destabilize relations between the US and Ukraine by spreading disinformation...

How does Rudy figure in?

" A Ukrainian MP who in 2019 helped former U.S. President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani in his search for dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden has been charged with treason."

Nothing like the fox guarding the hen house. Rudy is desperately looking to find dirt on Biden, and low and behold he (unwittingly?) enlists the aid of 3 people who are actually tasked by the GRU with spreading disinformation to discredit Biden. A match made in Hell...

"Oleksandr Dubinsky, together with ex-Ukrainian lawmaker Andriy Derkach and ex-prosecutor Kostyantyn Kulyk, had joined an organization formed by chiefs of Russia’s Military Intelligence (GRU), Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) said in a statement on Monday."

Notice how all three are tied together (with useful idiot Rudy) in Russian GRU efforts to discredit Biden...From Politico.EU and the Kyiv Post...

"In October and November 2019, Dubinsky and Derkach gave several press conferences in Kyiv at which they claimed that based on an investigation by Kulyk, they had uncovered corruption and money-laundering schemes related to Burisma, a gas company which had future U.S. President Joe Biden’s son Hunter on its board of directors."

No doubt those 2 months of Burisma themed pressers got Trump and Rudy's attention...Rudy joined the party when he travelled to Ukraine a month later in Dec 2019...
"Dubinsky met Giuliani during his visit to Kyiv in December 2019 while the former New York City mayor and failed U.S. presidential candidate was filming a documentary aimed at discrediting an impeachment probe into Trump"

You can read more and get further details on poltico.eu and the Kyiv Post

Ukraine charges Rudy Giuliani’s top local ally with Moscow-linked treason

Ukraine’s security service says MP was undermining Kyiv-Washington relations under Russian military intelligence orders.

www.politico.eu

Ukrainian Lawmaker Dubinsky Charged with High Treason, Linked to Russian Subversive Group

Security Service sources told Kyiv Post that a Verkhovna Rada member is implicated in a high treason case against Ukraine for spreading false info about the higher political and military leadership.

www.kyivpost.com

Remember the claims made by some on this board (repeating Maga talking points) that Ukraine had tried to intervene on Biden's behalf in the 2020 election? Well that "story" was the result of a disinformation operation conducted by these 3 under GRU auspices...

I wonder who that "confidential informant" the Maga Comers keep touting is?

They were just trying to be helpful to Rudy outside of their job.

Good Russian Samaritans

 

[GigGoo]

James A. Baker made to former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev during a meeting on February 9, 1990. In a discussion on the status of a reunited Germany, the two men agreed that NATO would not extend past the territory of East Germany, a promise repeated by NATO’s secretary general in a speech on May 17 that same year in Brussels.


Yet the U.S. and NATO continued to expand. Georgia wasn't enough for us to get he picture "hey the Russians are serious about this" Ukraine hasn't been enough either.

The Russians are trying to tell us something. "We're willing to join the international order, but stop coming up to our door step"

Once upon a time the Soviet Union tried to put nuclear missiles in Cuba. The United States flipped a shit, rightfully so. The world almost came to nuclear war. Yet we continue to march NATO up to Russia's border and act surprised when they get pissed off.

The failure of American foreign policy the last 30 yers has been the inability to put ourselves in our enemies shoes and thinking we can swing our big dick around with no consequences.

 

[IUCrazy2]

Since we had a ridiculous "gotcha" thread about the debunking of a theory regarding Trump and the FBI headquarters (which was never even discussed here), I figured I'd start a thread about another nail in the ill-advised Impeachment inquiry coffin...

Someone recently brought up the issue of the Natl Security advisors who said they were leery of the Hunter laptop as a possible Russian disinformation...

I've been very effusive in pointing out how Lev Parnas knew where all the bodies were buried, and how he had previously testified that both he and Rudy were told by Vitaly Pruss on May 29, 2019 that Russians had hacked into Hunter's laptop in 2014.Again the significance of the May date is that it was about 6 months before computer repair shop owner Mac Issacson notified both the FBI and Trump associates of the contents he found on Hunter's laptop...

So yesterday in Ukraine an MP with ties to Rudy was arrested along with two associates and charged with high treason. Specifically they were charged with being a member of a Russian Military Intelligence group under the direction of the GRU that worked to destabilize relations between the US and Ukraine by spreading disinformation...

How does Rudy figure in?

" A Ukrainian MP who in 2019 helped former U.S. President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani in his search for dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden has been charged with treason."

Nothing like the fox guarding the hen house. Rudy is desperately looking to find dirt on Biden, and low and behold he (unwittingly?) enlists the aid of 3 people who are actually tasked by the GRU with spreading disinformation to discredit Biden. A match made in Hell...

"Oleksandr Dubinsky, together with ex-Ukrainian lawmaker Andriy Derkach and ex-prosecutor Kostyantyn Kulyk, had joined an organization formed by chiefs of Russia’s Military Intelligence (GRU), Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) said in a statement on Monday."

Notice how all three are tied together (with useful idiot Rudy) in Russian GRU efforts to discredit Biden...From Politico.EU and the Kyiv Post...

"In October and November 2019, Dubinsky and Derkach gave several press conferences in Kyiv at which they claimed that based on an investigation by Kulyk, they had uncovered corruption and money-laundering schemes related to Burisma, a gas company which had future U.S. President Joe Biden’s son Hunter on its board of directors."

No doubt those 2 months of Burisma themed pressers got Trump and Rudy's attention...Rudy joined the party when he travelled to Ukraine a month later in Dec 2019...
"Dubinsky met Giuliani during his visit to Kyiv in December 2019 while the former New York City mayor and failed U.S. presidential candidate was filming a documentary aimed at discrediting an impeachment probe into Trump"

You can read more and get further details on poltico.eu and the Kyiv Post

Ukraine charges Rudy Giuliani’s top local ally with Moscow-linked treason

Ukraine’s security service says MP was undermining Kyiv-Washington relations under Russian military intelligence orders.

www.politico.eu

Ukrainian Lawmaker Dubinsky Charged with High Treason, Linked to Russian Subversive Group

Security Service sources told Kyiv Post that a Verkhovna Rada member is implicated in a high treason case against Ukraine for spreading false info about the higher political and military leadership.

www.kyivpost.com

Remember the claims made by some on this board (repeating Maga talking points) that Ukraine had tried to intervene on Biden's behalf in the 2020 election? Well that "story" was the result of a disinformation operation conducted by these 3 under GRU auspices...

I wonder who that "confidential informant" the Maga Comers keep touting is?

All I am reading is that your local supermarket had a sale on aluminum foil this week.

 

[ulrey]

Since we had a ridiculous "gotcha" thread about the debunking of a theory regarding Trump and the FBI headquarters (which was never even discussed here), I figured I'd start a thread about another nail in the ill-advised Impeachment inquiry coffin...

Someone recently brought up the issue of the Natl Security advisors who said they were leery of the Hunter laptop as a possible Russian disinformation...

I've been very effusive in pointing out how Lev Parnas knew where all the bodies were buried, and how he had previously testified that both he and Rudy were told by Vitaly Pruss on May 29, 2019 that Russians had hacked into Hunter's laptop in 2014.Again the significance of the May date is that it was about 6 months before computer repair shop owner Mac Issacson notified both the FBI and Trump associates of the contents he found on Hunter's laptop...

So yesterday in Ukraine an MP with ties to Rudy was arrested along with two associates and charged with high treason. Specifically they were charged with being a member of a Russian Military Intelligence group under the direction of the GRU that worked to destabilize relations between the US and Ukraine by spreading disinformation...

How does Rudy figure in?

" A Ukrainian MP who in 2019 helped former U.S. President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani in his search for dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden has been charged with treason."

Nothing like the fox guarding the hen house. Rudy is desperately looking to find dirt on Biden, and low and behold he (unwittingly?) enlists the aid of 3 people who are actually tasked by the GRU with spreading disinformation to discredit Biden. A match made in Hell...

"Oleksandr Dubinsky, together with ex-Ukrainian lawmaker Andriy Derkach and ex-prosecutor Kostyantyn Kulyk, had joined an organization formed by chiefs of Russia’s Military Intelligence (GRU), Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) said in a statement on Monday."

Notice how all three are tied together (with useful idiot Rudy) in Russian GRU efforts to discredit Biden...From Politico.EU and the Kyiv Post...

"In October and November 2019, Dubinsky and Derkach gave several press conferences in Kyiv at which they claimed that based on an investigation by Kulyk, they had uncovered corruption and money-laundering schemes related to Burisma, a gas company which had future U.S. President Joe Biden’s son Hunter on its board of directors."

No doubt those 2 months of Burisma themed pressers got Trump and Rudy's attention...Rudy joined the party when he travelled to Ukraine a month later in Dec 2019...
"Dubinsky met Giuliani during his visit to Kyiv in December 2019 while the former New York City mayor and failed U.S. presidential candidate was filming a documentary aimed at discrediting an impeachment probe into Trump"

You can read more and get further details on poltico.eu and the Kyiv Post

Ukraine charges Rudy Giuliani’s top local ally with Moscow-linked treason

Ukraine’s security service says MP was undermining Kyiv-Washington relations under Russian military intelligence orders.

www.politico.eu

Ukrainian Lawmaker Dubinsky Charged with High Treason, Linked to Russian Subversive Group

Security Service sources told Kyiv Post that a Verkhovna Rada member is implicated in a high treason case against Ukraine for spreading false info about the higher political and military leadership.

www.kyivpost.com

Remember the claims made by some on this board (repeating Maga talking points) that Ukraine had tried to intervene on Biden's behalf in the 2020 election? Well that "story" was the result of a disinformation operation conducted by these 3 under GRU auspices...

I wonder who that "confidential informant" the Maga Comers keep touting is?

This hugh if true!

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

Since we had a ridiculous "gotcha" thread about the debunking of a theory regarding Trump and the FBI headquarters (which was never even discussed here), I figured I'd start a thread about another nail in the ill-advised Impeachment inquiry coffin...

Someone recently brought up the issue of the Natl Security advisors who said they were leery of the Hunter laptop as a possible Russian disinformation...

I've been very effusive in pointing out how Lev Parnas knew where all the bodies were buried, and how he had previously testified that both he and Rudy were told by Vitaly Pruss on May 29, 2019 that Russians had hacked into Hunter's laptop in 2014.Again the significance of the May date is that it was about 6 months before computer repair shop owner Mac Issacson notified both the FBI and Trump associates of the contents he found on Hunter's laptop...

So yesterday in Ukraine an MP with ties to Rudy was arrested along with two associates and charged with high treason. Specifically they were charged with being a member of a Russian Military Intelligence group under the direction of the GRU that worked to destabilize relations between the US and Ukraine by spreading disinformation...

How does Rudy figure in?

" A Ukrainian MP who in 2019 helped former U.S. President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani in his search for dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden has been charged with treason."

Nothing like the fox guarding the hen house. Rudy is desperately looking to find dirt on Biden, and low and behold he (unwittingly?) enlists the aid of 3 people who are actually tasked by the GRU with spreading disinformation to discredit Biden. A match made in Hell...

"Oleksandr Dubinsky, together with ex-Ukrainian lawmaker Andriy Derkach and ex-prosecutor Kostyantyn Kulyk, had joined an organization formed by chiefs of Russia’s Military Intelligence (GRU), Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) said in a statement on Monday."

Notice how all three are tied together (with useful idiot Rudy) in Russian GRU efforts to discredit Biden...From Politico.EU and the Kyiv Post...

"In October and November 2019, Dubinsky and Derkach gave several press conferences in Kyiv at which they claimed that based on an investigation by Kulyk, they had uncovered corruption and money-laundering schemes related to Burisma, a gas company which had future U.S. President Joe Biden’s son Hunter on its board of directors."

No doubt those 2 months of Burisma themed pressers got Trump and Rudy's attention...Rudy joined the party when he travelled to Ukraine a month later in Dec 2019...
"Dubinsky met Giuliani during his visit to Kyiv in December 2019 while the former New York City mayor and failed U.S. presidential candidate was filming a documentary aimed at discrediting an impeachment probe into Trump"

You can read more and get further details on poltico.eu and the Kyiv Post

Ukraine charges Rudy Giuliani’s top local ally with Moscow-linked treason

Ukraine’s security service says MP was undermining Kyiv-Washington relations under Russian military intelligence orders.

www.politico.eu

Ukrainian Lawmaker Dubinsky Charged with High Treason, Linked to Russian Subversive Group

Security Service sources told Kyiv Post that a Verkhovna Rada member is implicated in a high treason case against Ukraine for spreading false info about the higher political and military leadership.

www.kyivpost.com

Remember the claims made by some on this board (repeating Maga talking points) that Ukraine had tried to intervene on Biden's behalf in the 2020 election? Well that "story" was the result of a disinformation operation conducted by these 3 under GRU auspices...

I wonder who that "confidential informant" the Maga Comers keep touting is?

tl/dr

Are you saying something on the Internet was not true?

 

[cosmickid]

Since we had a ridiculous "gotcha" thread about the debunking of a theory regarding Trump and the FBI headquarters (which was never even discussed here), I figured I'd start a thread about another nail in the ill-advised Impeachment inquiry coffin...

Someone recently brought up the issue of the Natl Security advisors who said they were leery of the Hunter laptop as a possible Russian disinformation...

I've been very effusive in pointing out how Lev Parnas knew where all the bodies were buried, and how he had previously testified that both he and Rudy were told by Vitaly Pruss on May 29, 2019 that Russians had hacked into Hunter's laptop in 2014.Again the significance of the May date is that it was about 6 months before computer repair shop owner Mac Issacson notified both the FBI and Trump associates of the contents he found on Hunter's laptop...

So yesterday in Ukraine an MP with ties to Rudy was arrested along with two associates and charged with high treason. Specifically they were charged with being a member of a Russian Military Intelligence group under the direction of the GRU that worked to destabilize relations between the US and Ukraine by spreading disinformation...

How does Rudy figure in?

" A Ukrainian MP who in 2019 helped former U.S. President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani in his search for dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden has been charged with treason."

Nothing like the fox guarding the hen house. Rudy is desperately looking to find dirt on Biden, and low and behold he (unwittingly?) enlists the aid of 3 people who are actually tasked by the GRU with spreading disinformation to discredit Biden. A match made in Hell...

"Oleksandr Dubinsky, together with ex-Ukrainian lawmaker Andriy Derkach and ex-prosecutor Kostyantyn Kulyk, had joined an organization formed by chiefs of Russia’s Military Intelligence (GRU), Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) said in a statement on Monday."

Notice how all three are tied together (with useful idiot Rudy) in Russian GRU efforts to discredit Biden...From Politico.EU and the Kyiv Post...

"In October and November 2019, Dubinsky and Derkach gave several press conferences in Kyiv at which they claimed that based on an investigation by Kulyk, they had uncovered corruption and money-laundering schemes related to Burisma, a gas company which had future U.S. President Joe Biden’s son Hunter on its board of directors."

No doubt those 2 months of Burisma themed pressers got Trump and Rudy's attention...Rudy joined the party when he travelled to Ukraine a month later in Dec 2019...
"Dubinsky met Giuliani during his visit to Kyiv in December 2019 while the former New York City mayor and failed U.S. presidential candidate was filming a documentary aimed at discrediting an impeachment probe into Trump"

You can read more and get further details on poltico.eu and the Kyiv Post

Ukraine charges Rudy Giuliani’s top local ally with Moscow-linked treason

Ukraine’s security service says MP was undermining Kyiv-Washington relations under Russian military intelligence orders.

www.politico.eu

Ukrainian Lawmaker Dubinsky Charged with High Treason, Linked to Russian Subversive Group

Security Service sources told Kyiv Post that a Verkhovna Rada member is implicated in a high treason case against Ukraine for spreading false info about the higher political and military leadership.

www.kyivpost.com

Remember the claims made by some on this board (repeating Maga talking points) that Ukraine had tried to intervene on Biden's behalf in the 2020 election? Well that "story" was the result of a disinformation operation conducted by these 3 under GRU auspices...

I wonder who that "confidential informant" the Maga Comers keep touting is?

I wondr if Byron Donalds was upset because the Chamber was practically deserted when he gave this nonsensical speech? Or if his real intended audience was the Fox "news" crowd, who will likely just gobble up what he's spouting without bothering to even stop and consider some pretty important details...

For example wrapped up in his lead "allegation" is a series of events that (by his own words) occured in 2018. So who was POTUS in 2018? Exactly how did Joe Biden who IIRC was a lecturer and fellow at the Penn Biden Center sell influence in 2018? How could Joe Biden, who had no access to power himself, commit a crime by supposedly selling "access to power? It truly boggles the mind how stupid some of these folks are...

Then he repeaats the old standby of the "confidential informant" who overheard Zlochevsky claim he had paid Biden $5 Million to fire Shokin Which one of the 3 Ukrainians charged with treason last week is the "Confidential informant"? Does Donalds even know about the arrests, or does he also just rely on Fox to keep him informed?

Why in the world would you continue to spout the "confidential informant" nonsense, when 3 men who met with Rudy to supposedly asist him to find dirt on Biden are under warranted charges of being members of a Russian Military Intelligence (GRU) cell operating in Ukraine? Their assignment was to spread claims of corruption, and that camapign was likely the inspiration for Trump and Rudy to seize on the opportunity to find info to discredit Biden.

By meeting, exchanging info with them, and apparently citing them as sources in Rudy's report to US intelligence agencies, Rudy (unwittingly?) helped them further their mission. Talk about a useful idiot...As reports have said the DOJ (even Barr) were very suspicious of Rudy's "findings" and warned it sounded like Russian disinformation. As it turns out, it smelled that way because that's exactly what it was...

And Donalds brings that up as evidnce against Biden? Hey Byron, read an actual news account. Maybe then you won't embarrass yourself...