Mercans with lots of children who work hard and help raise our birth rate.
A birth rate which offsets our aging population and gives us the workers we need to continue to make America great.
VanPastorMan, are you holding services today?
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Mercans with lots of children who work hard and help raise our birth rate.
A birth rate which offsets our aging population and gives us the workers we need to continue to make America great.
Some of us believe in a God given free will whereby we have our destiny in our own hands.
True. Personally, my God is not sending me on the down escalator because I missed a couple church services. But other people may have different views. This isn't like AGW or Corona where I can say "follow the scientists". Not unless they have convinced the governor to ban church services.
Van is just a much poorer version of this epic fkn moron. Diehard bootlickers will be the downfall of all of us.
Many of these self styled religious "leaders" seem to forget that God also created viruses, rattlesnakes, quicksand and hurricanes that kill people, no matter what their religion is.
God gave us brains, too, but some of these "leaders" don't use them.
See this one too:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/snake-handling-pentecostal-pastor-dies-snake-bite/story?id=22551754
Ehh, I get what TMP is saying. Frankly I've had the same impression of HP people over my several years of professional employment. HR is always the impediment between candidate for an open position and the hiring manager. HR is always the red-tape that makes/breaks a potential fit between candidate and potential employer. Always. Any roadblocks that happen in the interview process are ALWAYS the fault of HR.
And WRT our current state of affairs:
Roman 5 :1-5
"Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. More than that, we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us."
And WRT a certain politician:
Colossians 2:8
"See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy,
which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ."
WRT this thread:
Matthew 7:21
"Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."
And:
James 1:26
"If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless."
Note: Thanks for posting the verses. It inspired me to do some Bible reading this evening. I chose to include the text, for the intellectually lazy in our congregation.
I've been there before. My dad was recovering from surgery to remove part of his cancerous lung. We were sitting together and someone decided to greet him with a shoulder grab and shake. I saw the look in dad's face and it was all I could do to not get into the guy's face. Some people aren't going to change how they act no matter what.
Here's the vile human being known as @VanPastorMan implying that people who voted for a LGBT rights bill deserve death.... or perhaps it was actually the LGBT people themselves that deserve death...... don't think he really makes much of a distinction.
This is the kind of person you folks are trying to reason with.
https://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=51818
This is the kind of person you folks are trying to reason with.
https://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=51818
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I'm vile....ok now that is your opinion. Here is the truth. All of us have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God. That includes you,me and everyone else. It's why Jesus died because when He died His death was sacrificial. As God's only begotten Son who became a human His death was eternally sufficient to take on eternal wrath that the Father put on Him. I tell kids this. "Can you imagine how you would feel if your brother or sister took a spanking that you deserved. How would you feel about them? It would be gratitude. This is why you should believe in Christ and be thankful. He took your punishment upon Himself so you wouldn't have to be punished". The wages of sin (what we earn) is death but the gift of God is Eternal Life through Christ.(Romans 6:23) So do LGBT folks deserve death? Yes, but so do you and I. All have sinned and have fallen short of the Glory of God (Romans 3:23)
LOL. Nice try.
Now, back to the question. Did you have services yesterday? How many attended? How old were they?
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Yes, but next week we are having service in the parking lot and also looking at possible youtube/facebook for folks who can't make it. We saw our second instance of the virus in our county.
The problem is, when you see a case today, that means they were infected a 10 days to 2 weeks before.
A story in the local paper today about a woman who was on a trip and a cruise. She is back in town and started working. Now she noted she has been feeling bad, has a sore throat, and at Kroger Sunday noted she could not return a cart because of shortness of breath. She does not have a fever so they will not test her. My question, why was she at Kroger?
If you know of two cases, you have a whole lot more.
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Actually one of my guys suggested Zoom for our business meeting this Thursday. Thanks for the suggestion. For Sunday we are meeting in the parking lot. I will preach extra loud so the neighbors who don't go to the church will hear. lol We are looking into facebook/youtube possibilities which might be used even after the virus has ended.
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LoL, Lawyers and pastors get no respect. But when we are needed we show up and serve.
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Romans 1:32 is about everybody. Paul is talking about the Gentiles who don't have the Law. Yet they too have sinned and have fallen short of the Glory of God. When Paul in chapter 3 speaks about all have sinned. By then he is talking about Jews and Gentiles. In Chapter 2 he speaks about how Jews who have the Law are in trouble because they don't keep it. Gentiles who don't have the written law have the law written on their hearts which is talking about the conscience. If you think about it, it is true. You and I have broken the law of our conscience, even things we know that are wrong. What Paul is doing is showing how Gentiles and Jews are in the same boat. They all have sinned and need Jesus.
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We were careful over the last four weeks or so with the social distancing, not shaking hands, or hugging. I actually told the church yesterday that I miss those things and will not take it for granted in the future. I told the church three weeks ago that once we see the virus then we will have to do something different. So we are meeting in the parking lot. People will stay in their cars and I will preach in the parking lot just outside the door which leads into the church. I've never done internet video youtube/facebook before and we are looking into this option as well in the future.
When you place that in a thread about gays, and people supporting gays, the clear implication is that you are singling out gays. I doubt you have ever placed that in a thread about Trump.
All people are, deep down, basically good. The proof of this lies in our ability to create civilization, help each another, and cooperate and live together in relative harmony.
The bad people do is the exception to the rule, not vice versa. This is plain to see if you take an objective look around.
The bad people do is the exception to the rule, not vice versa. This is plain to see if you take an objective look around.
He knew exactly what he was saying and who he was saying it to. It's like the white supremacists and Nazis posting things they wouldn't normally say out loud, since they're among like minded people and are behind an anonymous keyboard.
If doesn't get you a fast pass, you'd have to assume he'll get special seating in purgatory.
He claims to follow and advise social distancing guidelines. Theoretically his flock might be better prepared to behave accordingly after one of his sermons then otherwise in that locale. To me it’s not really about beliefs but rather about behavior. The students on the Florida beaches were completely and abhorrently irresponsible. Those are the ones who should go to Purgatory.
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My nephew belongs to a religious cult in Tampa. They call it a church, but it is a cult. They are still meeting in person, regularly. Their pastor claims to have eradicated Zika virus by prayer, and assures his flock that they will be similarly protected.
Here's a TMZ article on the cult:
https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/29/chru...C7u6KFs5r9UUMg5CqG6n3mY-uTw0n8O3n35ioqZLmq9QY
Here is my nephew's post on facebook this morning. He is my brother's stepson from a second marriage. Scary.
I just read all this crazy things that the News wrote and posted publicly, they really think. so bad of our Pastor Rodney Howard Browne. The social media are ridiculous because they don’t read Bible and it is clearly to know that the only thing that protects people from sickness and disease is the blood of Jesus and not a stupid mask on the face and no social distancing!
Just by reading all the stupid stuff that the social media writes so wrong and mocking Pastor Rodney, that irritates me because the ones who wrote all that none sense I am pretty sure that they aren’t saved and don’t study Bible like we at RU School do!
Yes we will continue congregating in the Church, the Bible says in the presence of God there is fullness of Joy, no sickness!
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I responded. It seemed to me to be my duty. He has a wife and 6 month old baby. They don't deserve t suffer for the ignorance of others.
"God gave mankind knowledge and common sense. That seems to be lacking in people who are not doing their part in calming the spread of this disease. Please be safe!"
Here's a TMZ article on the cult:
https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/29/chru...C7u6KFs5r9UUMg5CqG6n3mY-uTw0n8O3n35ioqZLmq9QY
Here is my nephew's post on facebook this morning. He is my brother's stepson from a second marriage. Scary.
I just read all this crazy things that the News wrote and posted publicly, they really think. so bad of our Pastor Rodney Howard Browne. The social media are ridiculous because they don’t read Bible and it is clearly to know that the only thing that protects people from sickness and disease is the blood of Jesus and not a stupid mask on the face and no social distancing!
Just by reading all the stupid stuff that the social media writes so wrong and mocking Pastor Rodney, that irritates me because the ones who wrote all that none sense I am pretty sure that they aren’t saved and don’t study Bible like we at RU School do!
Yes we will continue congregating in the Church, the Bible says in the presence of God there is fullness of Joy, no sickness!
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I responded. It seemed to me to be my duty. He has a wife and 6 month old baby. They don't deserve t suffer for the ignorance of others.
"God gave mankind knowledge and common sense. That seems to be lacking in people who are not doing their part in calming the spread of this disease. Please be safe!"
Sheltered in place...staring out the window to empty streets....with a quiet golf clap for your post that only I can hear Martian.....
You weaponized that verse to say in effect that everyone who voted for that LGBT bill deserved death. You singled them out. You can't just hide behind the premise that everyone deserves death when you do that. Your motive and intent was clear.
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He’s an abysmal person and is one of the least intelligent posters on here. That anybody would show up to listen to him speak is an indictment on the community.
They PAY to listen to him. Let that sink in.
He doesn’t begin to compare to Trump. Really. We’re all paying a fortune for that choice. How many millions still support him? Let that sink in.
Deeply.
Deeper.
Still deeper.
Now really deeply.
I assume this is the church outside shooter is talking about. This guy is a gold standard nutter.
https://www.fox13news.com/news/tamp...stancing-orders.amp?__twitter_impression=true
https://www.fox13news.com/news/tamp...stancing-orders.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Van, does God forgive any sinners who have not accepted Jesus as their saviour?
"They PAY" makes it sounds like there is some form of valid transaction between VSM and his flock. It's actually more of a grift and they are truly sheep.
That's them.
I guess they can't be arrested or stopped, legally. Sad when they get the virus and spread it to innocent friends and relatives who aren't in the cult. If only the virus just infected the willfully stupid people.
Or to grocery store check out clerks. Or to doctors or nurses when you need to be hospitalized. Just like spring break kids, selfish assholes.
The base is building immunity by exposing themselves to the virus. Self immunization.
Thus making themselves still greater.
I like Cake's version of "I Will Survive."
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