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U.S. Political Party Preferences Shifted Greatly During 2021

This comes as Biden’s approval continues to plummet.

A poll from Civiqs found Biden’s approval only at 34%.

You keep cherry picking one poll here and one poll there.... that's not how this works.

Polling takes a average of all polls and averages them out. Biden has been bad, but he's still got a little bit to go before he gets to Trump levels on polling levels.
 
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He will win. He's better than the other candidates. Trump keeps his promises unlike other politicians.
Such nonsense. Trump accomplished very little of what he promised and acted like an unfit clown while he accomplished the little that he did accomplish.

Yes, I supported his judicial nominees and some other things he did as well.
 
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This comes as Biden’s approval continues to plummet.

A poll from Civiqs found Biden’s approval only at 34%.
As long as we're cherry picking polls and applying meaningless analysis...

Fox news just released a poll today, which found Biden at 47% approval... https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews....plete_National_Topline_January-23-Release.pdf

But just like I posted regarding Gallup's Dec results, this poll shows the same narrowing of the generic congressional ballot, based on the midterms being held today...

"The question was posed: If the election for Congress were held today, would you vote for [ROTATE] the Democratic candidate in your district or the Republican candidate in your district? [IF UNDECIDED: Well, if you had to vote, which way would you lean?]

The result: 43% said a Democratic candidate, 44% said a Republican candidate, 11% were undecided. In October 2021, those numbers were 39% (D), 46% (R), 12% (U)."

The delineation of issues indicates that the midterms will revolve around which areas of concern emerge as prominent in the next year, especially among Independents. it's interesting to note that despite the culture war in education, the Fox poll still found the majority of their respondents favored generic Dem candidates when it comes to Education...

"When asked which party – the Democrats or Republicans – they felt would do a better job on specific issues, Democrats were favored in climate change, racism, health care, bringing the country together, the coronavirus pandemic, education and protecting American democracy. Republicans were favored in taxes, the federal deficit, immigration, the economy, crime, border security and national security."

 
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As long as we're cherry picking polls and applying meaningless analysis...

Fox news just released a poll today, which found Biden at 47% approval... https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews....plete_National_Topline_January-23-Release.pdf

But just like I posted regarding Gallup's Dec results, this poll shows the same narrowing of the generic congressional ballot, based on the midterms being held today...

"The question was posed: If the election for Congress were held today, would you vote for [ROTATE] the Democratic candidate in your district or the Republican candidate in your district? [IF UNDECIDED: Well, if you had to vote, which way would you lean?]

The result: 43% said a Democratic candidate, 44% said a Republican candidate, 11% were undecided. In October 2021, those numbers were 39% (D), 46% (R), 12% (U)."

The delineation of issues indicates that the midterms will revolve around which areas of concern emerge as prominent in the next year, especially among Independents. it's interesting to note that despite the culture war in education, the Fox poll still found the majority of their respondents favored generic Dem candidates when it comes to Education...

"When asked which party – the Democrats or Republicans – they felt would do a better job on specific issues, Democrats were favored in climate change, racism, health care, bringing the country together, the coronavirus pandemic, education and protecting American democracy. Republicans were favored in taxes, the federal deficit, immigration, the economy, crime, border security and national security."

 
As long as we're cherry picking polls and applying meaningless analysis...

Fox news just released a poll today, which found Biden at 47% approval... https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews....plete_National_Topline_January-23-Release.pdf

But just like I posted regarding Gallup's Dec results, this poll shows the same narrowing of the generic congressional ballot, based on the midterms being held today...

"The question was posed: If the election for Congress were held today, would you vote for [ROTATE] the Democratic candidate in your district or the Republican candidate in your district? [IF UNDECIDED: Well, if you had to vote, which way would you lean?]

The result: 43% said a Democratic candidate, 44% said a Republican candidate, 11% were undecided. In October 2021, those numbers were 39% (D), 46% (R), 12% (U)."

The delineation of issues indicates that the midterms will revolve around which areas of concern emerge as prominent in the next year, especially among Independents. it's interesting to note that despite the culture war in education, the Fox poll still found the majority of their respondents favored generic Dem candidates when it comes to Education...

"When asked which party – the Democrats or Republicans – they felt would do a better job on specific issues, Democrats were favored in climate change, racism, health care, bringing the country together, the coronavirus pandemic, education and protecting American democracy. Republicans were favored in taxes, the federal deficit, immigration, the economy, crime, border security and national security."

LMAO no one with an ounce of objectivity can think this administration is worth a shit
 
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LMAO no one with an ounce of objectivity can think this administration is worth a shit

That's not the point.

Bailey is constantly cherry picking polls to make Biden look bad. There's no question Biden and his administration has been horrible but do you know the one president that his numbers are better then? 45.

That is comparable.
 
This is sophomoric and disingenuous, even for you .No one is claiming Fox is a brilliant pollster, even though it's amazing how you never have an issue with any of the cherry picked unknown polls 777 cites repeatedly...

The point is that just like the Gallup poll (cited in the OP) showed a lessening of generic poll preference for GOP candidates in Dec (compared to the overall quarter), Fox showed a similar decline from THEIR earlier polls (Oct, NOV) until now (Dec). Specifically the same Fox poll (in Oct) showed Biden's approval rating at 43%, but more importantly showed GOP candidates outpolling Dem candidates in generic polling 46-39 with 12% undecided.

You didn't have a problem with that poll, but now the same poll shows the GOP edge dropping to 44-43, and now YOU have a problem with the poll? The bad news for you and your buddy 777 is that the GOP "massacre" you both crow about is dependent on the GOP moving farther from your buddy Trump. Youngkin's model in VA depends on avoiding issues like abortion, the Big Lie, guns and other hot button wing nut issues...

Youngkin could pull that off, since he didn't have a Trumpist primary challenger that forced him so far to the Right that he couldn't get back to the center. Not only will that not work in states like PA MI,WI etc..., but he's already starting to get blowback from people who thought he was a moderate, and feel they were hoodwinked. He only won by 2% (less than 65,000 votes) and he's already nominated a crazy wingnut Trumper for AG.

Just as people criticize Biden for misunderstanding his "mandate" the same is true of Youngkin, who had no mandate to end mask mandates, withdraw VA's opposition to the MS abortion law and in fact ask SCOTUS to revoke Roe. But he's done all that, and already has school districts and parents filing suit over his executive order on masks. His AG has asked the VA Supremes to dismiss the suit, but for now Youngkin has had to retreat and counsel people to listen to their school principal...
 
This is sophomoric and disingenuous, even for you .No one is claiming Fox is a brilliant pollster, even though it's amazing how you never have an issue with any of the cherry picked unknown polls 777 cites repeatedly...

The point is that just like the Gallup poll (cited in the OP) showed a lessening of generic poll preference for GOP candidates in Dec (compared to the overall quarter), Fox showed a similar decline from THEIR earlier polls (Oct, NOV) until now (Dec). Specifically the same Fox poll (in Oct) showed Biden's approval rating at 43%, but more importantly showed GOP candidates outpolling Dem candidates in generic polling 46-39 with 12% undecided.

You didn't have a problem with that poll, but now the same poll shows the GOP edge dropping to 44-43, and now YOU have a problem with the poll? The bad news for you and your buddy 777 is that the GOP "massacre" you both crow about is dependent on the GOP moving farther from your buddy Trump. Youngkin's model in VA depends on avoiding issues like abortion, the Big Lie, guns and other hot button wing nut issues...

Youngkin could pull that off, since he didn't have a Trumpist primary challenger that forced him so far to the Right that he couldn't get back to the center. Not only will that not work in states like PA MI,WI etc..., but he's already starting to get blowback from people who thought he was a moderate, and feel they were hoodwinked. He only won by 2% (less than 65,000 votes) and he's already nominated a crazy wingnut Trumper for AG.

Just as people criticize Biden for misunderstanding his "mandate" the same is true of Youngkin, who had no mandate to end mask mandates, withdraw VA's opposition to the MS abortion law and in fact ask SCOTUS to revoke Roe. But he's done all that, and already has school districts and parents filing suit over his executive order on masks. His AG has asked the VA Supremes to dismiss the suit, but for now Youngkin has had to retreat and counsel people to listen to their school principal...
..."the GOP "massacre" you both crow about is dependent on the GOP moving farther from your buddy Trump." No. It's not. Next fall will be a referendum on the far left idiocy. It will have ZERO to do with Trump, a reality I'm certain has zero chance of seeping into your addled mind. The far left idiocy, the price of gas, and the price of food. That's what people are concerned with today and why the shift in preferences. Wake up. It has nothing to do with Trump. You've been co-opted by whatever bullshit you follow online. Deprogram yourself. Only a fool would support this rudderless administration.
 
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..."the GOP "massacre" you both crow about is dependent on the GOP moving farther from your buddy Trump." No. It's not. Next fall will be a referendum on the far left idiocy. It will have ZERO to do with Trump, a reality I'm certain has zero chance of seeping into your addled mind. The far left idiocy, the price of gas, and the price of food. That's what people are concerned with today and why the shift in preferences. Wake up. It has nothing to do with Trump. You've been co-opted by whatever bullshit you follow online. Deprogram yourself. Only a fool would support this administration.
NEW: Harvard/HarrisPoll

2024 Pres. Election:
(R) Donald Trump 46% (+6)
(D) Joe Biden 40%

(R) Donald Trump 49% (+10)
(D) Kamala Harris 39%
——
(R) Ron DeSantis 40% (+1)
(D) Kamala Harris 39%

1,815 RV | 1/19-1/20

All i read on this site by some is how hated trump is yet every poll I see has him destroying harris. Harvard is not exactly a conservative pollster but I hope the dems run harris we will see just how popular she is in places other than message boards with hickory on them. Id love for shooter or mark to tell how how all these polls are wrong and it will be a dem landslide in 2022 and 2024
 
NEW: Harvard/HarrisPoll

2024 Pres. Election:
(R) Donald Trump 46% (+6)
(D) Joe Biden 40%

(R) Donald Trump 49% (+10)
(D) Kamala Harris 39%
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(R) Ron DeSantis 40% (+1)
(D) Kamala Harris 39%

1,815 RV | 1/19-1/20

All i read on this site by some is how hated trump is yet every poll I see has him destroying harris. Harvard is not exactly a conservative pollster but I hope the dems run harris we will see just how popular she is in places other than message boards with hickory on them. Id love for shooter or mark to tell how how all these polls are wrong and it will be a dem landslide in 2022 and 2024
You're citing a poll about events 3 yrs in the future, and the issue being discussed is the 2022 midterms. No one is saying it will be a Dem landslide in 2022 and despite redistricting not being as fatal to Dems as expected, the Dems will likely lose the House. But there is no gerrymander when it comes to Senate seats, and the more pro-Trump candidates are in purple states, the harder it will be to win the general after the rightward slant they are going to have to take to survive the GOP Primaries in those respective states...
 
If Trump runs, whether he wins the nomination is not easily controlled. The irony is that while many want more democracy, it is more democracy that nominated Trump. Unless the GOP follows the ant-democratic Democrats with their super-delegate baloney, the candidate with the most delegates from primary voting will be nominated. What will make it worse is Operation Chaos that Limbaugh fooled around with during the 2008 campaign. Except the Democrats don’t see that as a joke. The Democrats have a record of crossing over at the primary level to support irrational GOP candidates. With so many states now having open primaries, many Democrats would vote for Trump in those primaries.

As I keep saying, we have too much voting in the country.
Only you could attack the Democrats for doing something you think is a good idea. You are really impressive.
 
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You're citing a poll about events 3 yrs in the future, and the issue being discussed is the 2022 midterms. No one is saying it will be a Dem landslide in 2022 and despite redistricting not being as fatal to Dems as expected, the Dems will likely lose the House. But there is no gerrymander when it comes to Senate seats, and the more pro-Trump candidates are in purple states, the harder it will be to win the general after the rightward slant they are going to have to take to survive the GOP Primaries in those respective states...
Yet all I saw was polls cited by the dems 3 or 4 years out as the gold standard. The point is Trump should be losing by 15 points if he is as hated as some on hear claim he is. I mean he should be losing so big it the gop should be craving the Bush war monger days to come back. Yet only dems seem to want the neocon gop to come back. The problem the dems have is their bench is even less popular than Trump. Harris is not liked at all and I have no idea how the dems can not run her. She is not going to let herself get forced out.
 
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Yet all I saw was polls cited by the dems 3 or 4 years out as the gold standard. The point is Trump should be losing by 15 points if he is as hated as some on hear claim he is. I mean he should be losing so big it the gop should be craving the Bush war monger days to come back. Yet only dems seem to want the neocon gop to come back. The problem the dems have is their bench is even less popular than Trump. Harris is not liked at all and I have no idea how the dems can not run her. She is not going to let herself get forced out.
The simple answer is that Trump is not in power ,and hasn't announced a run for 2024 yet. Why do you think that is? Why do you think that Youngkin never mentioned Trump, and studiously avoided Trump coming to VA to campaign for him?

Again, it's hard to focus on the 2024 Presidential race, when we haven't even had the midterms. My point, which you and mcmurtry disagree with, is that the more involved candidates are with the wingnut Trumper spectrum, the harder it is for those candidates to win in 2022 in purple states. It's not just the craziness of issues like the Big Lie and abortion zealotry, but also the fact that the previous results in purple states in 2018 (when Trump himself was not on the ballot) is that candidates in purple states that he endorsed and campaigned for lost uniformly...

Don't believe me? Look at the results...
In PA- Casey defeated massive Trumper Barletta, 2 years after Trump carried the state vs HRC. Casey won 58-43, and Wolf won the Gov race 58-41...
In MI, Stabenow beat James 52-46, despite Trump winning in 2016. Whitmer won Gov by nearly 10%...
In WI Baldwin beat another massive Trumper Vukmir 55-45. And Evers managed to upset Walker, though the margin was much lower...

And even a state like OH, which was solidly in the Trump camp in 2016 still re-elected a pretty well known liberal in 2018. Brown defeated another Trumper in Renacci by 6 points 53-47. The crazy thing about OH is that in 2018 Kasich was term limited from running and endorsed Devine, a fellow moderate who won with 50% against Cordray's 46. But Cordray (the Dem Gov candidate) still got about 35,000 more votes than Renacci the pro-Trump GOP Senate candidate in the state that Trump won handily 2 yrs earlier.

And the craziest thing is that Renacci (who got 35,000 less votes than the Dem that Dewine beat in the 2018 Gov's race) is running vs Dewine in the GOP Primary in 2022. Renacci could well be the GOP nominee, and if he is it gives the Dem's their best shot at winning the Gov race. And that's in a Red state...

NBC released a poll on "party popularity" today and both the Dems and GOP are underwater. The Gop got a favorable rating from 44%,while the Dems were at 43%. The last time either party was above water was the Dems in 2015, but the reason the GOP is favored in the midterms is that usually the losing Presidential parties voters are more motivated. That's true up till now, but I still think the more looney Trumpers the Pubs nominate,t he better Dem chances are, esp for the Senate... Some interesting analysis...

"Now look at our poll: It finds the GOP split between those who consider themselves more supporters of Trump, versus those who are more supporters of the party — and the pro-party side has been growing since Trump left office. (By the way, Trump has a 90 percent-to-0 percent favorable/unfavorable rating with pro-Trump Republicans, while it’s 62 percent-to-20 percent among pro-party Republicans.)

And the NBC News poll also shows a split inside the Democratic Party — 40 percent of Democrats say they supported Biden during the 2020 primaries, 30 percent say they backed Bernie Sanders and 12 percent sided with Elizabeth Warren. (By the way, President Biden’s approval rating is 92 percent-to-7 percent among Democratic Biden voters, while it’s 74 percent-to-23 percent among Sanders/Warren voters.)"

 
The simple answer is that Trump is not in power ,and hasn't announced a run for 2024 yet. Why do you think that is? Why do you think that Youngkin never mentioned Trump, and studiously avoided Trump coming to VA to campaign for him?

Again, it's hard to focus on the 2024 Presidential race, when we haven't even had the midterms. My point, which you and mcmurtry disagree with, is that the more involved candidates are with the wingnut Trumper spectrum, the harder it is for those candidates to win in 2022 in purple states. It's not just the craziness of issues like the Big Lie and abortion zealotry, but also the fact that the previous results in purple states in 2018 (when Trump himself was not on the ballot) is that candidates in purple states that he endorsed and campaigned for lost uniformly...

Don't believe me? Look at the results...
In PA- Casey defeated massive Trumper Barletta, 2 years after Trump carried the state vs HRC. Casey won 58-43, and Wolf won the Gov race 58-41...
In MI, Stabenow beat James 52-46, despite Trump winning in 2016. Whitmer won Gov by nearly 10%...
In WI Baldwin beat another massive Trumper Vukmir 55-45. And Evers managed to upset Walker, though the margin was much lower...

And even a state like OH, which was solidly in the Trump camp in 2016 still re-elected a pretty well known liberal in 2018. Brown defeated another Trumper in Renacci by 6 points 53-47. The crazy thing about OH is that in 2018 Kasich was term limited from running and endorsed Devine, a fellow moderate who won with 50% against Cordray's 46. But Cordray (the Dem Gov candidate) still got about 35,000 more votes than Renacci the pro-Trump GOP Senate candidate in the state that Trump won handily 2 yrs earlier.

And the craziest thing is that Renacci (who got 35,000 less votes than the Dem that Dewine beat in the 2018 Gov's race) is running vs Dewine in the GOP Primary in 2022. Renacci could well be the GOP nominee, and if he is it gives the Dem's their best shot at winning the Gov race. And that's in a Red state...

NBC released a poll on "party popularity" today and both the Dems and GOP are underwater. The Gop got a favorable rating from 44%,while the Dems were at 43%. The last time either party was above water was the Dems in 2015, but the reason the GOP is favored in the midterms is that usually the losing Presidential parties voters are more motivated. That's true up till now, but I still think the more looney Trumpers the Pubs nominate,t he better Dem chances are, esp for the Senate... Some interesting analysis...

"Now look at our poll: It finds the GOP split between those who consider themselves more supporters of Trump, versus those who are more supporters of the party — and the pro-party side has been growing since Trump left office. (By the way, Trump has a 90 percent-to-0 percent favorable/unfavorable rating with pro-Trump Republicans, while it’s 62 percent-to-20 percent among pro-party Republicans.)

And the NBC News poll also shows a split inside the Democratic Party — 40 percent of Democrats say they supported Biden during the 2020 primaries, 30 percent say they backed Bernie Sanders and 12 percent sided with Elizabeth Warren. (By the way, President Biden’s approval rating is 92 percent-to-7 percent among Democratic Biden voters, while it’s 74 percent-to-23 percent among Sanders/Warren voters.)"

The Dems body of work the last year is what is salient to voters. Price of gas. Price of food. Crime. Not Trump. Dems are in for a beating unless Biden pivots fast and hard

 
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Such nonsense. Trump accomplished very little of what he promised and acted like an unfit clown while he accomplished the little that he did accomplish.

Yes, I supported his judicial nominees and some other things he did as well.
Compared to what Biden has accomplished unless you, like I think his goal was what is happening?
 
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This is sophomoric and disingenuous, even for you .No one is claiming Fox is a brilliant pollster, even though it's amazing how you never have an issue with any of the cherry picked unknown polls 777 cites repeatedly...

The point is that just like the Gallup poll (cited in the OP) showed a lessening of generic poll preference for GOP candidates in Dec (compared to the overall quarter), Fox showed a similar decline from THEIR earlier polls (Oct, NOV) until now (Dec). Specifically the same Fox poll (in Oct) showed Biden's approval rating at 43%, but more importantly showed GOP candidates outpolling Dem candidates in generic polling 46-39 with 12% undecided.

You didn't have a problem with that poll, but now the same poll shows the GOP edge dropping to 44-43, and now YOU have a problem with the poll? The bad news for you and your buddy 777 is that the GOP "massacre" you both crow about is dependent on the GOP moving farther from your buddy Trump. Youngkin's model in VA depends on avoiding issues like abortion, the Big Lie, guns and other hot button wing nut issues...

Youngkin could pull that off, since he didn't have a Trumpist primary challenger that forced him so far to the Right that he couldn't get back to the center. Not only will that not work in states like PA MI,WI etc..., but he's already starting to get blowback from people who thought he was a moderate, and feel they were hoodwinked. He only won by 2% (less than 65,000 votes) and he's already nominated a crazy wingnut Trumper for AG.

Just as people criticize Biden for misunderstanding his "mandate" the same is true of Youngkin, who had no mandate to end mask mandates, withdraw VA's opposition to the MS abortion law and in fact ask SCOTUS to revoke Roe. But he's done all that, and already has school districts and parents filing suit over his executive order on masks. His AG has asked the VA Supremes to dismiss the suit, but for now Youngkin has had to retreat and counsel people to listen to their school principal...
How‘s the Ukraine invasion coming along?
 
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No one over 80 should be running for any office, maybe mayor of some town of 1000 ppl no one wants the job but just no way should national officials be running at that age and I know there are Republicans as well too old.
How about 79 year olds? We're on the brink of WW3, rampant inflation, the economy sucks, the border is out of control, etc and he's having f****** ice cream.

 
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How about 79 year olds? We're on the brink of WW3, rampant inflation, the economy sucks, the border is out of control, etc and he's having f****** ice cream.

They had masks on though! I mean 70 is really plenty old enough. I dont want a mandate on people that want to work privately. Hey if you can do the job in an employers mind thats great and a lot of older people are more than capable but at some point holding an office and think senators its 6 yrs , you cant just say hey its not working out and send them on their way. What kills me is these ancient people are the darlings of the left wing party trying to save us from everything. If I'm 80 I don't give a damn to be honest.
 
Compared to what Biden has accomplished unless you, like I think his goal was what is happening?

Biden got an infrastructure bill passed. More than trump did in 4 years unless you are crowing about a little bit of fencing on the border lmao
 
They're getting nervous...in New York.

 
They're getting nervous...in New York.

Oh boy democracy is at stake!!!! LOL funny how they have no problem changing voting laws but if a red state does it democracy is going to die.
 
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Bought gas recently?
Hickory does now own a car he uses a horse and buggy and wears an all are welcome shirt 24/7. He also eats a plant only diet becaue he is helping to save the planet. Oh and he only showers once a week so he does not have to use any hot water. In the summer he just jumps in a lake and takes no showers.
 
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How about 79 year olds? We're on the brink of WW3, rampant inflation, the economy sucks, the border is out of control, etc and he's having f****** ice cream.

Wow what a shock I assume he is probably headed off the Delaware tomorrow. It is not really a surprise he is not running anything anyway it is all Ron Klain. All Biden acatually does is read off of some notes cards they put in front of him before he goes to be at 7pm. Klain is incompetent but really probably less incompetent than Biden would be if he was actually running things
 
Wow what a shock I assume he is probably headed off the Delaware tomorrow. It is not really a surprise he is not running anything anyway it is all Ron Klain. All Biden acatually does is read off of some notes cards they put in front of him before he goes to be at 7pm. Klain is incompetent but really probably less incompetent than Biden would be if he was actually running things
Did you hear what Emerald Robinson said Monday that she has 2 sources within the Secret Service that tell her Biden is frequently caught wandering the WH halls butt naked in the middle of the night? They can't control him there with his full blown dementia. That's why he keeps going to Delaware. He's much more controllable in his own home. Scary shit if true.
 
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Did you hear what Emerald Robinson said Monday that she has 2 sources within the Secret Service that tell her Biden is frequently caught wandering the WH halls butt naked in the middle of the night? They can't control him there with his full blown dementia. That's why he keeps going to Delaware. He's much more controllable in his own home. Scary shit if true.
None of that would surprise me he is clearly not well and any talk of him running again is laughable. I am hard pressed to see him even making it another year.
 
Compared to what Biden has accomplished unless you, like I think his goal was what is happening?
We’re talking about what Trump actually accomplished and the reality is not a ton and he failed to do most of what he promised. Biden is irrelevant to that, it’s specifically about Trump.
 
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LOL! that shifts back if the pubs have control of both Houses and nominate Trump as their candidate in 2024. An overturn of Roe v. Wade will cause a shift, too.
I can’t bring myself to give two steamy shits about the shifts in preferences. It just happens. Happens all the damn time and happens to both major parties. America has become a nation full of what-have-you-done-for-me-lately crybaby bitches.
 
Did you hear what Emerald Robinson said Monday that she has 2 sources within the Secret Service that tell her Biden is frequently caught wandering the WH halls butt naked in the middle of the night? They can't control him there with his full blown dementia. That's why he keeps going to Delaware. He's much more controllable in his own home. Scary shit if true.
Newsmax fired her! You can’t seriously cite her as a reliable source.
 
People were so glad that the Republicans were so completely right in claiming that Covid would immediately disappear after the first week of November in 2020, and now they are showing their gratitude.

(DWS)
 
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