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Trump's dire words raise new fears about his authoritarian bent

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  • "During a Veteran's Day speech, Mr. Trump used language that echoed authoritarian leaders who rose to power in Germany and Italy in the 1930s, degrading his political adversaries as 'vermin' who needed to be 'rooted out.'"
  • "'There are echoes of fascist rhetoric, and they’re very precise,' said Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a professor at New York University who studies fascism. 'The overall strategy is an obvious one of dehumanizing people so that the public will not have as much of an outcry at the things that you want to do.'”
  • "Fascism is generally understood as an authoritarian, far-right system of government in which hypernationalism is a central component."
  • "It also often features a cult of personality around a strongman leader, the justification of violence or retribution against opponents, and the repeated denigration of the rule of law, said Peter Hayes, a historian who has studied the rise of fascism."
  • "Past fascist leaders appealed to a sense of victimhood to justify their actions, he said. 'The idea is: ‘We’re entitled because we’ve been victimized. We’ve been cheated and robbed,’” he said."
  • "[This] comes as [Trump] and his allies devise plans for a second term that would upend some of the long-held norms of American democracy and the rule of law. These ambitions include using the Justice Department to take vengeance on his political rivals, plotting a vast expansion of presidential power and installing ideologically aligned lawyers in key positions to bless his contentious actions."
  • "Mr. Trump’s attacks sweep from the highest echelons of politics to low-level bureaucrats whom he has deemed insufficiently loyal. He has insinuated that the nation’s top military general should be executed and called for the 'termination' of parts of the Constitution. If he wins back the White House, he has said, he would have 'no choice' but to imprison political opponents."
  • "Jennifer Mercieca, a professor at Texas A&M University who has researched political rhetoric, said Mr. Trump had wielded language as a chisel to chip away at democratic norms. 'Normally, a president would use war rhetoric to prepare a nation for war against another nation,' she said. 'Donald Trump uses war rhetoric domestically.'"
I've been talking about this for two years. Unless you're ok with a Trump strongman regime, this is beyond alarming. No way Trump should ever be anywhere near the White House again.

 
  • "Fascism is generally understood as an authoritarian, far-right system of government in which hypernationalism is a central component."

So what does your esteemed professor espouse around Authoritarian socialism? Stalin was just as bad as Hitler in many respects.
 
  • "During a Veteran's Day speech, Mr. Trump used language that echoed authoritarian leaders who rose to power in Germany and Italy in the 1930s, degrading his political adversaries as 'vermin' who needed to be 'rooted out.'"
  • "'There are echoes of fascist rhetoric, and they’re very precise,' said Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a professor at New York University who studies fascism. 'The overall strategy is an obvious one of dehumanizing people so that the public will not have as much of an outcry at the things that you want to do.'”
  • "Fascism is generally understood as an authoritarian, far-right system of government in which hypernationalism is a central component."
  • "It also often features a cult of personality around a strongman leader, the justification of violence or retribution against opponents, and the repeated denigration of the rule of law, said Peter Hayes, a historian who has studied the rise of fascism."
  • "Past fascist leaders appealed to a sense of victimhood to justify their actions, he said. 'The idea is: ‘We’re entitled because we’ve been victimized. We’ve been cheated and robbed,’” he said."
  • "[This] comes as [Trump] and his allies devise plans for a second term that would upend some of the long-held norms of American democracy and the rule of law. These ambitions include using the Justice Department to take vengeance on his political rivals, plotting a vast expansion of presidential power and installing ideologically aligned lawyers in key positions to bless his contentious actions."
  • "Mr. Trump’s attacks sweep from the highest echelons of politics to low-level bureaucrats whom he has deemed insufficiently loyal. He has insinuated that the nation’s top military general should be executed and called for the 'termination' of parts of the Constitution. If he wins back the White House, he has said, he would have 'no choice' but to imprison political opponents."
  • "Jennifer Mercieca, a professor at Texas A&M University who has researched political rhetoric, said Mr. Trump had wielded language as a chisel to chip away at democratic norms. 'Normally, a president would use war rhetoric to prepare a nation for war against another nation,' she said. 'Donald Trump uses war rhetoric domestically.'"
I've been talking about this for two years. Unless you're ok with a Trump strongman regime, this is beyond alarming. No way Trump should ever be anywhere near the White House again.

Dumb.
 
  • "During a Veteran's Day speech, Mr. Trump used language that echoed authoritarian leaders who rose to power in Germany and Italy in the 1930s, degrading his political adversaries as 'vermin' who needed to be 'rooted out.'"
  • "'There are echoes of fascist rhetoric, and they’re very precise,' said Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a professor at New York University who studies fascism. 'The overall strategy is an obvious one of dehumanizing people so that the public will not have as much of an outcry at the things that you want to do.'”
  • "Fascism is generally understood as an authoritarian, far-right system of government in which hypernationalism is a central component."
  • "It also often features a cult of personality around a strongman leader, the justification of violence or retribution against opponents, and the repeated denigration of the rule of law, said Peter Hayes, a historian who has studied the rise of fascism."
  • "Past fascist leaders appealed to a sense of victimhood to justify their actions, he said. 'The idea is: ‘We’re entitled because we’ve been victimized. We’ve been cheated and robbed,’” he said."
  • "[This] comes as [Trump] and his allies devise plans for a second term that would upend some of the long-held norms of American democracy and the rule of law. These ambitions include using the Justice Department to take vengeance on his political rivals, plotting a vast expansion of presidential power and installing ideologically aligned lawyers in key positions to bless his contentious actions."
  • "Mr. Trump’s attacks sweep from the highest echelons of politics to low-level bureaucrats whom he has deemed insufficiently loyal. He has insinuated that the nation’s top military general should be executed and called for the 'termination' of parts of the Constitution. If he wins back the White House, he has said, he would have 'no choice' but to imprison political opponents."
  • "Jennifer Mercieca, a professor at Texas A&M University who has researched political rhetoric, said Mr. Trump had wielded language as a chisel to chip away at democratic norms. 'Normally, a president would use war rhetoric to prepare a nation for war against another nation,' she said. 'Donald Trump uses war rhetoric domestically.'"
I've been talking about this for two years. Unless you're ok with a Trump strongman regime, this is beyond alarming. No way Trump should ever be anywhere near the White House again.

Is there not already a Trump/vermin/Hitler thread going?
 
  • "During a Veteran's Day speech, Mr. Trump used language that echoed authoritarian leaders who rose to power in Germany and Italy in the 1930s, degrading his political adversaries as 'vermin' who needed to be 'rooted out.'"
  • "'There are echoes of fascist rhetoric, and they’re very precise,' said Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a professor at New York University who studies fascism. 'The overall strategy is an obvious one of dehumanizing people so that the public will not have as much of an outcry at the things that you want to do.'”
  • "Fascism is generally understood as an authoritarian, far-right system of government in which hypernationalism is a central component."
  • "It also often features a cult of personality around a strongman leader, the justification of violence or retribution against opponents, and the repeated denigration of the rule of law, said Peter Hayes, a historian who has studied the rise of fascism."
  • "Past fascist leaders appealed to a sense of victimhood to justify their actions, he said. 'The idea is: ‘We’re entitled because we’ve been victimized. We’ve been cheated and robbed,’” he said."
  • "[This] comes as [Trump] and his allies devise plans for a second term that would upend some of the long-held norms of American democracy and the rule of law. These ambitions include using the Justice Department to take vengeance on his political rivals, plotting a vast expansion of presidential power and installing ideologically aligned lawyers in key positions to bless his contentious actions."
  • "Mr. Trump’s attacks sweep from the highest echelons of politics to low-level bureaucrats whom he has deemed insufficiently loyal. He has insinuated that the nation’s top military general should be executed and called for the 'termination' of parts of the Constitution. If he wins back the White House, he has said, he would have 'no choice' but to imprison political opponents."
  • "Jennifer Mercieca, a professor at Texas A&M University who has researched political rhetoric, said Mr. Trump had wielded language as a chisel to chip away at democratic norms. 'Normally, a president would use war rhetoric to prepare a nation for war against another nation,' she said. 'Donald Trump uses war rhetoric domestically.'"
I've been talking about this for two years. Unless you're ok with a Trump strongman regime, this is beyond alarming. No way Trump should ever be anywhere near the White House again.

This is nonsense
 
It has as much substance as any of the Russia allegations made against Trump in 2016.
That's nonsense.

But if you're looking for a deeper dive on the erosion of democracy in the US and the increasing threat of authoritarian rule, try Brookings.

 
That's nonsense.

But if you're looking for a deeper dive on the erosion of democracy in the US and the increasing threat of authoritarian rule, try Brookings.

It serves primarily to frame the terms of the 2024 campaign should Trump manage to avoid incarceration
 
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