Prove it. The only times I've seen this claim anywhere but this forum have been directly from the mouths of Trump or Rubio. The only legitimate journalism I found that examined the protesters themselves (which I linked on page 1 of this thread) made it clear it was very well organized - but also organic and grass roots.
"Hard to pin down exactly."
That's better, but it looks a lot more like giving approval than taking credit. I'm more interested in the wild claims that these "aren't protesters, they're professional agitators."
Maybe you were, but now you've pivoted into attacking me for things I never said. Get back to the discussion at hand, and I'll gladly continue.
You turned our discussion from your accusation that these protesters are actually paid shills to an accusation that I "have no concern" over the anger we are seeing. Straw man. By definition.
Well I have a former student at UIC that went with hundreds of students. Pretty sure they aren't professional agitators and you won't see them at any other venues. Plain old college students. And she was political as a second grader...
I agree with all your comments about Trump, but you accused the protesters of being "professional agitators." You specifically accused moveon.org of paying for them to disrupt rallies. I took issue with that accusation, and you turned this discussion into something else entirely to avoid the fact that you couldn't prove your charge. I never went anywhere else with this, and that's why everything else you directed at me was a straw man.
I'd bet money he ends up voting for Trump.You sure surprise me. I was sure you would be a Trump supporter.
No, you didn't. You made a plain accusation that they were "professionals" funded by moveon.org. Either prove your accusation or admit you cannot. Every other line of discussion right now is a distraction. Can you prove your claim or can't you?
There you go thinkin' again.You sure surprise me. I was sure you would be a Trump supporter.
How about the quotes in articles from the Chicago PD who say the violence was all Sanders/Clinton supporters, organized and much worse than reported including selectively breaking the windows out of cars with Trump bumper stickers.
That's the article I shared earlier. You make it sound like these protesters are hired thugs. Moveon makes it sound like they are supporting groups they believe in. Do you understand the difference? If not, I'm done here.
Goat is all bent out of shape by your choice of words. You used the word professional. Those students, whether supported by moveon or not, whether paid or not, are not professional agitators. Their profession is not to agitate. Goat will persist like a leech until you relent and recant your "professional agitator" attribution. You simply need to find an attribution that appropriately fits the intent of the Bernheads who disrupted the Chicago rally, like disrupters. Then Goat will have no rational, honest argument against.
If people criticizing these protesters did so rationally and honestly without repeating candidate talking points that sound like conspiracy theories, Goat wouldn't need a rational argument against them, because Goat would have no desire to be in the conversation.
If someone is actually concerned about the so-called violence at these rallies, the key questions is, if Bernie asked his supporters to stop disrupting Trump's rallies, would they?
On one hand we have protesters disrupting Trump's rallies, just as BLM protesters disrupted rallies for Democratic candidates. This is rude, but commonplace, and those now excoriating the Trump protesters had little trouble holding their tongues before. On the other hand we have Trump repeatedly inciting his followers to to violence against the protesters. For emphasis: the likely Republican presidential candidate has repeatedly called for lawless violence at his rallies. This is unprecedented. It requires an exceptional shallowness of thought to equate these two things.
You guys are talking past each other. I think Goat is keying on the word "professionals" and you're taking liberties with that word. Is MoveOn professional? Yes. Are students (as you've pointed out in your last link) professional protestors? I doubt it.
