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Coach, the team was fine. You went total panic mode with 3 seconds left and started making mass substitutions instead of just rolling with what was working.
that last 5.6 seconds was like a monkey trying to f*** a basketball.
I almost posted looked like a “Chinese fire drill” but didn’t want to be accused of being a racist.
When They were making those strange and confusing substitutions before the last play, I was reminded of my High School Days of 50 plus years ago. If We came to a red light or stop sign with a bunch of guys in the car, somebody would call out "Chinese Fire Drill". We would exit the nearest door, run around the car and pile back in taking our original seat. A little harmless fun and a way to let off a little steam.
The difference is our fire drills appear to have been better organized than whatever I saw at the end of the Game.
The difference is our fire drills appear to have been better organized than whatever I saw at the end of the Game.
Bob Knight would not have called time out after Maryland’s last basket. He felt it gave the opposition time to set up their defense. Rice had the ball in his hands as he crossed the centerline and had just kicked in his afterburners, streaking around his man towards the basket only to have a time out called…for what? This conjured up an image of Alford taking the ball the length of the court against MI for our win in Crisler. The ball was in the right man’s hands in both instances. Keep it there. Keep going!
Yep just watched this on YouTube last week. Gary Grant missed 2nd of two FTs.
Now rewatch yesterday’s game after Maryland’s last basket. Myles Rice was on a similar mission when he got the ball in his hands. He wasn’t looking for a timeout. He would have scored driving to the basket or gotten fouled, but NO-O-O-O, Woodson recalls a “brilliant” inbounds play from his NBA “daze”.
I spent about 30 min watching both IU-Mich games from 1993. So intense, so much talent on the court- for both teams. Crowds were rabid. Both games won by IU, by 1 point, against the Fab/Fraud 5. IU scored 75-90 points/game running the motion offense with 45 second shot clock and much more selective with 3 point shooting. The changes made to the college game really haven't led to increased scoring. If anything they just made taking crappy shots more acceptable. If younger fans really want to understand how far our program has slid, go watch these games, or maybe the IU @ OSU overtime game in '92 (painful OT loss but still a monster of a game to view).
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Those were the days. St. John Arena was great venue too I've got to admit.
I think either approach is fine. If he hadn't called the timeout, and Rice went barreling in to the lane and turned it over, or threw up a bad shot... I think many would have come here and vented about not calling a timeout.
In the end...its about composure and execution. Woodson didn't have composure throughout that situation, and he didn't put his players in the best position to execute. And then the players didn't make the plays.
For what its worth, though, I agree with you. I like Rice attacking in a more open, transition dynamic...a lot more than calling a timeout, and then having to execute against a setup, half court defense.
check out 93 at A Arbor. Henderson swatting Webber was so clutch and I loved the celebration. Seeing Rose's floaters brought back some deja vu anxiety. lol i thought the same thing i thought then: those weren't great looks.
Rice is certainly our best slasher to the basket. Granted, he sometimes makes mistakes of over-exuberance, but at least he shows the energy, unlike some of our other players. I like Rice. Rice is nice. If development continues with his decision making, he will become our most dependable player and a real crowd favorite.
I was at a wedding in Michigan right after the second of those games. “Man is Indiana good” is what I remember hearing. Beating that collection of Michigan talent, and being able to feel that as a program we were excelling but doing things “the right way” made it all the sweeter.
Things didn’t turn out the way we thought they should, but man so much great basketball.
Alford actually got the board off GG's miss as I recall...
We were up big in the 1st half that game. What a team.
He felt it gave the D a chance to set up AND he felt that his players were prepared and knew how to handle the situation. IIRC he once said something along the lines of “if they don’t know what to do by now, they aren’t going to learn it in a time out”.
Much has been said about Knight’s ego, but he also knew when to trust the players.
Woodson has a different background, however. In the NBA wouldn’t there usually be a TO and something drawn up?
I like him a lot too. I hope if there's a coaching change, that he sticks around with whoever the new coach is. His abilities should translate to really any coach, and coaching style. And from everything I've read or heard about him, he's a great kid, works his ass off... We'll need people like him if we change coaches, and have to rebuild everything.
Knight usually remained pretty stoic after victories, after all, winning was expected when a team is properly prepared in knowing the enemy, as The General learned from the ancient treatise, The Art of War, by Sun Tzu. However, there were times, ie. Jay Edwards draining one of his patented rainbow jumpers at the buzzer, where Bob Knight spontaneously erupts into a fit of animation, jumping up and down with fists raised, along with the rest of the team. Those were the days, my friend. We thought they'd never end.
If Rice sticks, he's the glue that holds the rest of the pieces together. I like my rice sticky, as is found locally in Hoosier Roll sushi.
big ten had ridiculous loads of talent and teams from 1987-1994. Illinois, PU with super Scheff and big dog, the UM teams, OSU and Jimmy Jackson, MSU and Steve Smith, Iowa was loaded in 87...and these great IU teams. Pinnacle of B1G basketball.
edit- RIP Chris Street. 30 yr anniversary of his passing was last week. Great talent, great kid. Gone much too soon. He was friends with Matt Painter and Matt Nover, and word is when the news hit, the two Matts talked on the phone for over an hour. I think the 3 of them played together on some summer B1G all star team and got to be good friends.
Did RMK study The Art of War? Its probably a common study for a lot of coaches...but if RMK used its teachings a lot...another link/reason to like Ben McCollum. He openly talks about it, and how it gave him is central philosophy of "Impose your Will".
What does Art of War say to do when you get $5-6M of NIL to spend on elite players? vbg. I suspect it would be enjoyable to see how Ben adjusts his tactics.
Woodson went into panic mode when Maryland's "three ball" (as Woody likes to say in NBA lingo) dropped. IU's problem is he coaches college ball like it was the NBA. He doesn't get it, which is surprising, having learned the college game from one of it's greatest teachers. I'm sure Calbert Cheaney is as frustrated with Woodson as the rest of us. How could one not be? Too old, too stubborn with glasses too thick. It's Pina Colada time for Mike. He needs to be spending his winters smoking stogies on the beach in Ft Myers. He can certainly afford it now.
RMK said it was one of his favorite books, which makes sense coming from a former military man at Army . I wouldn't be surprised if McCollum heard about it from Knight. Many coaches paid attention to what Knight had to say. He was that good at what he did, teach to those who listen and learn.
FYI, On January 19, 1993, following a team dinner at the Highlander Inn outside of Iowa City, Street was killed when he drove his car onto the highway and collided with a snow plow. His girlfriend, Kim Vinton Klinedinst, was a passenger. She survived the accident. The basketball game scheduled against Northwestern the following night was postponed.
In his last college game, he scored 14 points and collected 8 rebounds, hitting his 34th consecutive free throw to break the Iowa record. He was in the middle of his junior at the time of his passing.
thx...was off a year, it's been 31 yrs . B1G network has a 1 hr special marking 30 yrs but I guess that's a year old now. It was very good but also very sad. Street played ball in every way that we old timers remember what "IU basketball' was about.....hard effort, defense, rebounding, nonstop energy, and a very humble kid. Came from farmland of Iowa, just wanted to grow up and play for Iowa. He meant everything to the state. Was really my kind of player, the kind of player anyone would want on their team.
Obviously no idea how it all would translate to P4 basketball, let alone a cauldron like atmosphere like IU's. But I also suspect we'd all have a lot of fun following it, and finding out.
Not to open up the same argument from a couple days ago, but I think he's in a group of a decent number of coaches out there, right now...that would thrive matching their style and philosophies with more resources to get as talented of guys as they could find, that would fit how they want to play. That's they key here. NOT chasing talent or star ratings, just to spend 5-6 MIL...its maximizing our capacity, with the best possible guys, that best fit how the new coach wants to play.
If not for such strong Iowa ties, he might have been at IU as Knight's kind of player. They often had a way of attracting each other, perhaps at the unseen quantum level.
would never have come here, he was born wearing a Hawkeye jersey. But yeah....if any kid was "Knight's kind of player", ...Chris Street was. And he would have been great in Bloomington. Can't even imagine him on the floor with Calbert, Graham, Bailey, Henderson. That's one scary lineup.
We just moved from Evansville to Ellettsville to a brand new neighborhood and house. No Internet or tv... didn't get it for 3 weeks.
My point.... our kids live here and they got us a bunch of dvd's from the Elllettsville Library to pass the time,
On of the DVD's was the 1981 NCAA Championship game with IU against UNC.
I LOVED that game.... because there was NO SHOT CLOCK.... and you can see how Knights strategy of working the ball around and around until UNC's defense would make a mistake and we would take advantage of it.
Most people nowadays call it BORING.... I call it brilliant because it's a thought out process on how to beat your opponent.
As mentioned.... today's game with the shot clock forces poor teams into mistakes and failures.... whereas given some time, they might be able to compete with better teams.
That's what Notre Dame thought about Gerry Faust after his success for Cincy's Archbishop Moeller HS...fun times in South Bend on Saturday afternoons. At least he was a rosary bead-carrying Catholic.
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