Too many hero shots by Green
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Yup. Archie should have never left Green in the game as long as he did. Cost IU the game.
Our guards are horrible... worst defenders in the league, that's why we give up so many wide open threes because the guards can't stop anyone from driving the lane... horrible, everyone.
That wasn't Hunter's fault. Smith was supposed to come back to the ball, but he slipped and fell.
To put this loss on Green is nonsense and frankly I’m sick of your bullshit rhetoric. IU loses this game going away if it weren’t for Green’s play today. Green fueled the comeback by hitting big shots and feeding the post. He was the only guard making his FT’s. He took a bad shot on IU’s second to last possession, but that isn’t why IU lost.
You’re quickly establishing yourself as one of the worst posters on this board and considering the amount of clowns that post on here, that’s tough to do.
You’re quickly establishing yourself as one of the worst posters on this board and considering the amount of clowns that post on here, that’s tough to do.
Yup need more Anderson because I once saw him score on a 5'8" forward from Plymouth.
Green didn't lose this game, not in the least.
Hunter's turnover was the flip in momentum. Was nice to see Hunter play confidently but that was an absolute duck that he threw across court....dumb.
Hunter made 1 mistake, Green forced up 2 bricks at end of the game.
2 is greater than 1.
Green had no business forcing a low % 3pt brick when IU was dominating in the paint.
Green is a Senior.
Hunter is a redshirt Freshman.
Green should know better, but likely never will, I'm afraid.
Interjecting myself here, but did you?
Why no mention of the missed front end of the 1-1 for Phinisee?
Why no mention of the quick 3 point jack by Durham 5 seconds into the shot clock up 7 that led to a run out and subsequent And 1?
Why no mention of a missed FT by Hunter to make it a 3 score game and then his TO a minute later up 5?
Why no mention of TJD’s missed layup to win the game?
It’s painfully obvious that you have a driven agenda and can no longer view Green objectively. You’re turning into the IUScott of this board. That’s never good.
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Green’s 3 pt brick resulted in an empty possession for Maryland the next trip down that ended up with Green grabbing a defensive rebound and making an extremely contested layup by Smith to push the score to 76-70. Yes the jumper Green took on IU’s second to last possession wasn’t ideal, but there was less than 10 seconds left on the shot clock.
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
They made plays.
It's that simple..
If you've watched any basketball at all.
It happens to multiple teams every year.
It's a tuff loss.
But you move on..
It's that simple..
If you've watched any basketball at all.
It happens to multiple teams every year.
It's a tuff loss.
But you move on..
I actually think Durhams quick three was the turning point. Led to break a fast break in the other direction, Layup plus a foul. Should’ve held the ball work some offense, run 25 seconds off the clock. He went for the dagger with the shot, but instead everything snowballed in the opposite direction at that point
Of course it was, but that doesn’t fit ufo’s narrative. The missed 3 by Green resulted in an empty possession the next time down and IU extended the lead to 6 on a layup made by Green of all people.
Should have been a TO called after Wiggins made that 3 that cut the lead to 1. Poor possession that ended with a long two from Green, but I fault Archie in that instance. Something should have been drawn up.
I was going to answer but was basically beaten to it by the other replies.
The real questions you should be asking is either why was Hunter even in the game at the end instead of Brunk or why didn't we go with three guards in the last minute?
However, Durham took a horrible shot that clanked and turned into quick points.
Rob missed another front of a one on one that he needs to start making (remember last year at Iowa when he yet again missed game winning free throws which ended up costing us an NCAA seed?)
Hunter threw an absolute duck across court. My worry is he tends to be really lazy on his passes in general but that was a back breaker.
Green had 16 pts, 5 reb, 3 assists and 0 turnovers in 23 minutes.
He keeps playing like that and we'll win a lot of games.
What isn’t even being mentioned is his defense. Green drew Cowan primarily in the 2H and there’s a reason why MD went 9-13 from 3 to start the game and a reason why they were 10-27 up until Wiggins hit that 3 and it’s because Green did a pretty good job stopping dribble penetration. IU loses that game going away without Green’s contributions today. UFO is as clueless as they come.
Cowan beat him on straight line drives multiple times in the 2nd half that led to them being in the bonus.
MD at one point was 1-14 from the 3pt line in the 2H. I never said he did a lock down job on on Cowan, but a pretty good job. Cowan missed two front ends at the line.
horrible shot selection at the end....why the quick 3's when we didn't need it! that game was in the bag!
Everyone is going to focus on the end of the game but when we had a chance to put them away we fouled to many times.
Franklin had one as well where he fouled Cowan away from the ball.
Put them in the bonus and stalled our momentum.
I totally agree. As much as People are complaining about Green, I remembered that play and thought it was Durham not Green, but I couldn't find the game play summary to confirm it. The problem with that shot was that it was taken early in the shot clock, when we didn't have floor balance and led to a run out and score by Maryland.
I thought Green was pretty good today overall. He was moving the ball on Offense and getting other people involved and taking most of his shots in the flow of the Offense, rather than pounding the ball into the floor and heaving up a desperation shot at the end of the shot clock. We had very few turnovers in total, and I don't believe he had more than one.
He has done this for 4 years, missing forced low % shots in the middle of the shot clock resulting in losing games at the end.
He still didn’t cost IU the game. I literally listed 5 different outcomes that led to IU blowing the lead and not one of them had anything to do with Green. Your schtick is old and tiring.
Green didn't cost IU this game. Multiple players failed to execute the last minute or two. If any one of those did something different IU it might have won the game.
It was a tough loss but it certainly isn't in one player's head and I'd say less on Green than some others as already pointed out in this thread.
It was a tough loss but it certainly isn't in one player's head and I'd say less on Green than some others as already pointed out in this thread.
I agree on the lazy passes but it's not just Hunter. We throw WAY too many lazy passes to the wings to start the offense.
I don't argue that Green played better today, but at the end of the game he made 1 contested layup, but took 2 low % 3's,especially the 2nd shot that was just very poor decision making when the game was on the line. Some guys play better during the bulk of the game but make very poor decisions when it is winning time. After 4 years this is a pattern. A good game that ended in defeat due to poor decision making and low execution when it was winning time. Collectively just too many mistakes and bad decisions at the end of the game, and a missed shot in the lane by IU's best player.
You’re on crack.
He also made 2 FT’s during the last 4 minute stretch to push the lead back to 6. Did you conveniently forget the clank on the front end of Phinisee’s 1-1 that could have pushed the lead to 9? Did you conveniently forgot about a missed FT from Hunter that could have made it a 3 score game?
You’ve made no mention of Durham’s 3 pt attempt 5 seconds into the shot clock up 7 that led to a run out and subsequent and-1 that started IU’s demise.
Here are facts, Green took one, not two, 3pt shots during the last 4 minutes. He attempted a 3pt shot up 4 with 1:59 on the clock. Maryland corralled the rebound and within 8 seconds launched a 3 of their own that resulted in a rebound (by Green), who went on to make a driving contested layup to put IU back up 6 with a 1:21 left. Green would later take a mid-range jump shot with 7 seconds left on the shot clock with 30 seconds left in the game. This stems from Archie’s failure to call a TO after a quick 5-0 run from MD to cut the deficit to 1.
You singling out Green when talking about lack of execution and poor decision at the end of the game and nobody else further proves you have nothing but a driven agenda. You’re a CLOWN.
Green wasn't the issue. Durham made a horrible choice at the roughly 3 minute mark to hoist a deep three with 25 secs on the shot clock..... up by 7 points..... and then Hunter had a horrible live ball turnover towards the end. None of that was on Green.
I was too hard on Green, many contributed to losing the lead late.
IU needs to learn how to make smarter plays at the end of close games with the lead.
Al was feeling his oats. he had hit a couple of big shots against MSU and also a couple of nice ones v. MD. It's tough because you want him to have confidence to shoot the open 3s, if you're going to have him in there. I don't think you can expect him to both have confidence and not to take bad shots, like Phinisee. when healthy. Just not that kind of player.
