Time to end this: "We need Indiana kids..."

[ciggar_man]

All of Archie's recruits have played just fine for their rank/ age (beyond Anderson) . Phin has had a poor year, whether that is injuries or just a sophomore slump.... or some combination.... who knows. But he needed to have a better season for this team to win 22+ games.

My critique of Miller has been on his recruiting. It's been decent, but not nearly such high level that it was going to turn a bad team into a great one in 3 years. I was concerned that momentum would stall, but the Lander commitment shows that it's not the case. But yet still so much butthurt.

His first two classes are solid building blocks for a successful program. He wants to run with the old players in his system, but his old players all have serious deficiencies in their games.

I have no issue with how this year has turned out. Wish we would have won Maryland, Illinois and Wisky game and be at 22 wins, but such is life. We were two or three possessions worse in too many games. The margin between W/Ls at this level is razor thin, and we just aren't there.... particularly at the guard position, which is all that matters in CBB in crunch minutes. We will be in the tourney, much to the chagrin of the losers. And I highly doubt we miss too many tourneys going forward.

Besides, arguing college basketball with the 7 trolls on this board will be as successful as teaching chess to meth heads. Why waste your time?

What happen to Indiana is they they started playing one on one not passing the rock around taking bad shoots that a disaster waiting to happen. Maryland,Arkansas same thing

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Feeblemindedpaw claimed last week that Race Thompson would transfer to a small school where he could get minutes. He's just a very stupid person. And senile. A bad combination

No, he guaranteed it.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

No, he guaranteed it.

also guaranteed a few yrs back that Billy Donavan was in town looking for real estate. A statement he still refuses to own up to on this board.

 

[Zeester]

HS players from Indiana could care less about "Indiana" and "The Name on the Front of the Jersey." Get guys who can rebound and shoot... not just players who can put up points against teams that get beat by 1A schools.

Disagree totally. The reason you want Indiana players because they normally are more fundamental sound and can shoot. Gotta get the right ones and I think they do care what's on front of their jersy.

 

[fpeaugh]

All of Archie's recruits have played just fine for their rank/ age (beyond Anderson) . Phin has had a poor year, whether that is injuries or just a sophomore slump.... or some combination.... who knows. But he needed to have a better season for this team to win 22+ games.

My critique of Miller has been on his recruiting. It's been decent, but not nearly such high level that it was going to turn a bad team into a great one in 3 years. I was concerned that momentum would stall, but the Lander commitment shows that it's not the case. But yet still so much butthurt.

His first two classes are solid building blocks for a successful program. He wants to run with the old players in his system, but his old players all have serious deficiencies in their games.

I have no issue with how this year has turned out. Wish we would have won Maryland, Illinois and Wisky game and be at 22 wins, but such is life. We were two or three possessions worse in too many games. The margin between W/Ls at this level is razor thin, and we just aren't there.... particularly at the guard position, which is all that matters in CBB in crunch minutes. We will be in the tourney, much to the chagrin of the losers. And I highly doubt we miss too many tourneys going forward.

Besides, arguing college basketball with the 7 trolls on this board will be as successful as teaching chess to meth heads. Why waste your time?

But you told us before the season that this was a top 25 team that could win the conference. We finished 11th. How were you so wrong?

 

[fpeaugh]

Yes, because taking over at the end of March with 3 kids signed to LOI's means those are your recruits, right? Seriously, Archie is about to bring in his 3rd straight Mr. Basketball. Crean was recruiting "under the radar" kids mostly from the east coast who had potential. Al and Justin were 3 star recruits for good reasons. Nobody in NY wanted DeVonte for reasons. DeRon just had bad luck with injuries. Take into account the APR situation Crean left. Do you really think the culture Archie took over here was positive or negative? Who establishes the culture of the program? In any successful program, it is the upperclassmen. It translates to every walk of life. When you have good, experienced leaders, you have more succes. I don't understand expecting an entire change of culture (and change of system) to be pulled off in 2 recruiting classes and less than 3 years. Can you cite any examples of similar situations (and don't compare Pitino or Matta built programs to Crean built programs, please).

Crean landed a McDonalds All American in 5 straight classes. How do you forget so easily?

By this point he had Watford, Oladipo, Sheehey, Hulls, and Zeller with Yogi a few months away. Crean recruited better than Archie has so far.

 

[fpeaugh]

That excuse will be used all through next year as well. Bank it.

It’ll be used 5 years from now.

“Well these kids watched a Crean coached team play while they were in diapers...they must be cursed.”

And all this from Crean’s former cult members.

 

[twenty02]

But you told us before the season that this was a top 25 team that could win the conference. We finished 11th. How were you so wrong?

More lies from senile man.

 

[T.M.P.]

Then, again, UVa doesn't have a single Virginia player on its squad this year, nor was there one last year. It doesn't matter from where they come, you just need good players.

No but they had an Indiana player leading them in scoring ..

Bad example ....

Virginia is not a basketball recruiting hotbed, Indiana is.

 

[T.M.P.]

More lies from senile man.

He's a Purdue troll.

 

[Kyser123]

We all remember Crean as a great defensive coach, right? What point are you attempting to make?

CAM has not proven he’s any better than Crean. He’s a coach getting paid very well. The Crean excuses are BS. And CAM’s defense can’t stop anybody.

 

[T.M.P.]

CAM has not proven he’s any better than Crean. He’s a coach getting paid very well. The Crean excuses are BS. And CAM’s defense can’t stop anybody.

dumb

 

[Al Bino]

Crean landed a McDonalds All American in 5 straight classes. How do you forget so easily?

By this point he had Watford, Oladipo, Sheehey, Hulls, and Zeller with Yogi a few months away. Crean recruited better than Archie has so far.

And Archie has brought in two in two classes. If Lander didn't reclassify it would be three in four classes.

 

[wi_hoosier]

Then, again, UVa doesn't have a single Virginia player on its squad this year, nor was there one last year. It doesn't matter from where they come, you just need good players.

Yes, but they did have a kid from Indiana. Just saying.

The point is that Indiana is a very fertile ground of talent in our own back yard. And they tend to be kids who get what playing for Indiana means to the fans, the school, the state. Most bring a toughness that is developed by playing other players in this basketball crazy state. Now, this remains to be argued if true, especially in todays age of me first, but that is the idea.

 

[snarlcakes]

All of Archie's recruits have played just fine for their rank/ age (beyond Anderson) . Phin has had a poor year, whether that is injuries or just a sophomore slump.... or some combination.... who knows. But he needed to have a better season for this team to win 22+ games.

My critique of Miller has been on his recruiting. It's been decent, but not nearly such high level that it was going to turn a bad team into a great one in 3 years. I was concerned that momentum would stall, but the Lander commitment shows that it's not the case. But yet still so much butthurt.

His first two classes are solid building blocks for a successful program. He wants to run with the old players in his system, but his old players all have serious deficiencies in their games.

I have no issue with how this year has turned out. Wish we would have won Maryland, Illinois and Wisky game and be at 22 wins, but such is life. We were two or three possessions worse in too many games. The margin between W/Ls at this level is razor thin, and we just aren't there.... particularly at the guard position, which is all that matters in CBB in crunch minutes. We will be in the tourney, much to the chagrin of the losers. And I highly doubt we miss too many tourneys going forward.

Besides, arguing college basketball with the 7 trolls on this board will be as successful as teaching chess to meth heads. Why waste your time?

Of course you have no issues with the season I’m sure you’re smiling ear to ear in your candy stripe pants over the tourney bid.

 

[fpeaugh]

And Archie has brought in two in two classes. If Lander didn't reclassify it would be three in four classes.

So not as good as Crean? And Crean should be far from the bar of success.

 

[RunninRichie]

and you guys wonder why you aren’t a power anymore

 

[Davehack]

I dont think we should be ignoring Europe.

 

[Radio Zero]

I dont think we should be ignoring Europe.

It’s kind of easy to do so, though, with it all tucked away down there and all.

 

[Al Bino]

So not as good as Crean? And Crean should be far from the bar of success.

What? Archie could not have brought in five in five years because I hate to tell you but he has not been here five years. Good grief, you are senile.

 

[ulrey]

Crean’s kids? All two of them?

i forgot Archie recruited Al and Smith..

 

[namnik]

HS players from Indiana could care less about "Indiana" and "The Name on the Front of the Jersey." Get guys who can rebound and shoot... not just players who can put up points against teams that get beat by 1A schools.

You're joking, right?

 

[philliu]

It is Creans kids, who are not from Indiana that are killing us. We also should have taken Aaron Henry instead of Anderson.

That was Archie's decision.

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

and you guys wonder why you aren’t a power anymore

Let me guess....

You are Ashley Lyles’ son?

Don’t you have some racial slurs to drum up?

 

[fpeaugh]

i forgot Archie recruited Al and Smith..

They’re obviously better than the majority of players Archie has recruited. That’s why they play so much.

 

[fpeaugh]

What? Archie could not have brought in five in five years because I hate to tell you but he has not been here five years. Good grief, you are senile.

Is he going to have one this year?

It’s hard to get to 5 straight if you can’t get to 3 straight first.

 

[ciggar_man]

Is he going to have one this year?

It’s hard to get to 5 straight if you can’t get to 3 straight first.

Far as i am concern he signed three 4 stars this year Trey is a 4 star if Lander reclassify he would have a five star this year. That would be a great class right?

 

[Al Bino]

Far as i am concern he signed three 4 stars this year Trey is a 4 star if Lander reclassify he would have a five star this year. That would be a great class right?

No way in his eyes.

 

[fpeaugh]

Far as i am concern he signed three 4 stars this year Trey is a 4 star if Lander reclassify he would have a five star this year. That would be a great class right?

Not at all. That’s at best an average Big Ten class. We’re not going to get where we all want to be with a bunch of sub 100 ranked players.

None of the current 2020 class are impact players. They’re role players.

 

[Tasmanian Devil]

Not at all. That’s at best an average Big Ten class. We’re not going to get where we all want to be with a bunch of sub 100 ranked players.

None of the current 2020 class are impact players. They’re role players.

Yeah, we need to recruit like UK and turn our roster over ever year, so we can max out at the Sweet 16 / Elite 8.

 

[RunninRichie]

Yeah, we need to recruit like UK and turn our roster over ever year, so we can max out at the Sweet 16 / Elite 8.

indiana would happily take a elite eight considering you’ve only been past the sweet 16 once since 1993 and missed the tournament 4 out of the last 11 seasons

 

[Tasmanian Devil]

indiana would happily take a elite eight considering you’ve only been past the sweet 16 once since 1993 and missed the tournament 4 out of the last 11 seasons

Sure, I’d love an Elite 8 - but become a 1-year stop for kids looking to go pro? No thanks.

 

[RunninRichie]

Sure, I’d love an Elite 8 - but become a 1-year stop for kids looking to go pro? No thanks.

adapt or get left behind my man

 

[Tasmanian Devil]

adapt or get left behind my man

Why would I want my roster turned over every year? And be perpetually young?

IF your going to have OAD’s, you better have really good ones - like top 5 talent. Since 2015, Calipari’s not gotten those kids and it shows. He doesn’t have enough raw talent to compensate for the lack of experience.

Again, no thanks.

 

[RunninRichie]

Why would I want my roster turned over every year? And be perpetually young?

IF your going to have OAD’s, you better have really good ones - like top 5 talent. Since 2015, Calipari’s not gotten those kids and it shows. He doesn’t have enough raw talent to compensate for the lack of experience.

Again, no thanks.

I respect your opinion tasmanian

 

[Tasmanian Devil]

I respect your opinion tasmanian

That’s cool.

btw - you still got the porn ‘stache?

 

[RunninRichie]

That’s cool.

btw - you still got the porn ‘stache?

ya
EDIT: learned it from @Radio Zero

 

[Tasmanian Devil]

ya
EDIT: learned it from @Radio Zero

Sickest mustache EVER!

 

[ciggar_man]

Not at all. That’s at best an average Big Ten class. We’re not going to get where we all want to be with a bunch of sub 100 ranked players.

None of the current 2020 class are impact players. They’re role players.[/ Time well tell i think that trey may be the best of the bunch.That my opinion and i hope i am right we shall see.GO HOOSIERS!

 

[ciggar_man]

And Archie has brought in two in two classes. If Lander didn't reclassify it would be three in four classe[/QUOTE Maybe hes not done with this class i think their will be one transfer probably Anderson.