It appears that OSU AD Gene Smith is working with at least 5 other schools to cobble together a 10 game season.
We'll see where this goes.
We'll see where this goes.
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This piece, from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, points to a Big Ten football season beginning in early January. Games would be played in indoor facilities.It appears that OSU AD Gene Smith is working with at least 5 other schools to cobble together a 10 game season.
We'll see where this goes.
It appears that OSU AD Gene Smith is working with at least 5 other schools to cobble together a 10 game season.
We'll see where this goes.
If OSU, Michigan, MSU, Penn State, Nebraska, Iowa and Wisconsin all push on this, maybe they lose in the short term, but what happens if this causes an irreparable rift between those schools and the league? The Big Ten isn't going to kill the golden geese.... it's going to go to court if OSU and those "other" schools they think they can play outside of their membership agreement with the B1G. Guaranteed, and it will cost them more than if they'd just gone along with the conference's decision in the first place.
If they play each other, it's going to hurt MSU, who will go winless against those teams. And they know it. They are in no hurry to play football right now. Nebraska would get pounded also. The others would cannibalize themselves and the only one to come out of it looking good would be O$U.If OSU, Michigan, MSU, Penn State, Nebraska, Iowa and Wisconsin all push on this, maybe they lose in the short term, but what happens if this causes an irreparable rift between those schools and the league? The Big Ten isn't going to kill the golden geese.
ADs are working on all sorts of scenarios. But it's the school presidents that make the decisions. There's a ton of false rumors going around about a 10 game home and home with select teams with some saying IU and some saying IU isn't doing it. Basically it's all false rumors and hearsay. If the school presidents decide to meet again, then, and only then, would I get my hopes up for anything being born to exist. At this point, their decisions is final.It appears that OSU AD Gene Smith is working with at least 5 other schools to cobble together a 10 game season.
We'll see where this goes.
It appears that OSU AD Gene Smith is working with at least 5 other schools to cobble together a 10 game season.
We'll see where this goes.
Agreed, Warren bungled this and needs to go. I wonder how Delaney would have handled this, who many did not like as commissioner, including myself.Holy Hell, this is a mess.
Of these two options, the January plan seems more likely. If that happens, the Presidents and the Comish could be forced into playing when they were just blowing smoke up everyone's ass by talking about a Spring season. Of course nothing really happens unless the SEC/Big 12/ACC make it through their season.
I personally think BTC Warren should be pressured to look for greener pastures, sooner rather than later He bungled this process badly, and is now damaged goods.
Holy Hell, this is a mess.
Of these two options, the January plan seems more likely. If that happens, the Presidents and the Comish could be forced into playing when they were just blowing smoke up everyone's ass by talking about a Spring season. Of course nothing really happens unless the SEC/Big 12/ACC make it through their season.
I personally think BTC Warren should be pressured to look for greener pastures, sooner rather than later He bungled this process badly, and is now damaged goods.
ADs are working on all sorts of scenarios. But it's the school presidents that make the decisions. There's a ton of false rumors going around about a 10 game home and home with select teams with some saying IU and some saying IU isn't doing it. Basically it's all false rumors and hearsay. If the school presidents decide to meet again, then, and only then, would I get my hopes up for anything being born to exist. At this point, their decisions is final.
Indiana HSs are playing also. And daycares have been open the whole time.Yep - nothing happens without the University presidents signing off on it.
Given that Ohio's governor gave the go-ahead for all fall high school sports to continue as planned and the University of Cincinnati is planning on playing games, it would seem bizarre if OSU wasn't playing this fall.
My guess is that the Big Ten is trying to toe the line of staying in control and not ticking off OSU, Michigan, Penn State, et al. They probably don't want to work with those schools and not give them ultimatums.If they play each other, it's going to hurt MSU, who will go winless against those teams. And they know it. They are in no hurry to play football right now. Nebraska would get pounded also. The others would cannibalize themselves and the only one to come out of it looking good would be O$U.
I'd love it if the Big Ten said, ok, if you guys want to play, we'll put those 7 teams in one division. Then we'd see how serious they are about playing..
It ain't gonna happen anyway.
They're not doing a very good job of it.My guess is that the Big Ten is trying to toe the line of staying in control and not ticking off OSU, Michigan, Penn State, et al. They probably don't want to work with those schools and not give them ultimatums.
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I agree that this is a mess.
And as a previous poster mentioned, playing football this fall only really helps OSU, who was especially loaded and was poised to have one of the best teams in the country this year.
If they wait until January, their top NFL prospect players won't be on their roster.
I personally think BTC Warren should be pressured to look for greener pastures, sooner rather than later He bungled this process badly, and is now damaged goods.
I thought there was already hope(allegedly)that all B1G teams would play this spring(that's partly sarcasm, as I expect zero chance of that happening)?It appears that OSU AD Gene Smith is working with at least 5 other schools to cobble together a 10 game season.
We'll see where this goes.
... it's going to go to court if OSU and those "other" schools think they can play outside of their membership agreement with the B1G. Guaranteed, and it will cost them more than if they'd just gone along with the conference's decision in the first place.
If they do play I wouldn't wish any of the Buckeyes to get covid. But I would be okay if they all got herpes.
Just interested in what do you think he did wrong and what should he have done?
Seems like a LOT of problems are being caused by this pandemic when it comes to trying to normalize life. Just look at UNC and the grief they are getting.
Just interested in what do you think he did wrong and what should he have done?
Seems like a LOT of problems are being caused by this pandemic when it comes to trying to normalize life. Just look at UNC and the grief they are getting.
1. He didn't involve the players, coaches, and ADs in the decision. He should have at least sought their input. Not only did he not do that......he didn't even attempt to keep them informed as to the 'evidence' being used to make the decision.
2. He put out a playing schedule 6 days before he cancelled ("postponed") the season, with no significant developments in between. Any reasonable person would have concluded when they announced a schedule that they were seriously considering playing. He essentially wasted all the time and effort of all the players, coaches, and ADs involved with no intention (in my opinion) of ever playing. A lack of good faith, in my opinion. I would not buy a used car from any of them.
3. He made little or no effort to coordinate his decision making with the other conferences. If he was always leaning toward not playing, why not try to bring them over to your side? Or try to work out a plan to play after NYD, as they're looking at now. Why wasn't that done before the 'vote'? Why go out on a limb on your own, just to get the limb sawed off behind you? A potential $100M decision casually made, and never seriously defended, to this day.
4. He cancelled the season too soon. It was the consensus that the season was going to be delayed anyway......he could have and should have waited another couple of weeks to access developments with the virus, watch the research on the heart issue etc.
I suppose, if you play this Fall, you don't get another year of eligibility.How does this work? If the B10 does not play any games and seniors or even underclassman are granted an extra year of eligibility but the SEC, ACC, B12 play games this year. Does that mean that the B10 and Pac12 would have a lot more players on roster that would be eligible in 2021 and beyond as opposed to the SEC, etc.?
How does this work? If the B10 does not play any games and seniors or even underclassman are granted an extra year of eligibility but the SEC, ACC, B12 play games this year. Does that mean that the B10 and Pac12 would have a lot more players on roster that would be eligible in 2021 and beyond as opposed to the SEC, etc.?
IMO you've alluded to one part of this drama that went largely unnoticed but I thought was very revealing: when it looked like push would come to shove, 6 "have" B1G 10 football programs were apparently willing to ditch the other 8 comparatively "have-not" football programs (and to an extent the whole conference in the bargain) in an effort to have some kind of season. Nice to know just how seriously those 6 schools actually take their conference affiliations with the other 8 'junior varsity" partners, at least in terms of football.I look for the schools that take football seriously and are not overrun with the bespectacled, academia Myles Brand clones to do what they are going to do and the Big Ten conference won’t do a thing about it. OSU and Penn State could tell the Big Ten to go pound sand and.....the Big Ten will cower in fear. The conference doesn’t control them one iota.
I would actually love to see it. The conference has no balls regardless and would never think of dictating anything to institutions that are their cash cows. Warren is a disaster. Delaney is suntanning his cheeks on his yacht with the golden parachute they gave him. That guy was crooked.
Anyway....this whole cancellation / postponement thing is a debacle. They are playing other sports. The football programs are perhaps the safest place to be for young people. They say it’s safer out in the general population? Pffftttt.
When McRobbie is going to host a big event with lots of people and Warren starts attending his son’s games, we’ll see how hypocritical this whole thing was. All of this sh@& is purely for optics. If it affects them.....well.....now....hold up....now, just wait a minute here.
We've been headed there for a long time now . . .IMO you've alluded to one part of this drama that went largely unnoticed but I thought was very revealing: when it looked like push would come to shove, 6 "have" B1G 10 football programs were apparently willing to ditch the other 8 comparatively "have-not" football programs (and to an extent the whole conference in the bargain) in an effort to have some kind of season. Nice to know just how seriously those 6 schools actually take their conference affiliations with the other 8 'junior varsity" partners, at least in terms of football.
Part of me thinks, when the dust settles, this episode may turn out to be the impetus for the formation of a national "super conference" of the most successful P-5 schools telling their current conferences (and maybe the NCAA) "it's been swell, but we're outta here...."