"The Left Destroys Everything it Touches"

VanPastorMan

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I can’t speak for religion, because I’m not at all religious, but I have my doubts that today’s Catholic and Protestant churches are as left as he says. Let’s ask our pastor if his church is leftest. Also, I’m not ready to say that America is the least racist country to ever exist and that all races get along on a daily basis. Also, what seems to have ruined the Boy Scouts more than anything else is the sex scandals.. a la the Catholic Church variety.

That’s just a few problems I have with his takes, upon first viewing.
I've had both Republicans and Democrats in my congregations. Most of the Democrats as far as I know are not the foundation hating, communist loving leftists we have today in AOC and the rest of the squad. They were more like the old time Democrats such as JFK. One old man at my last church told me, "Pastor, I was a lifelong Democrat. I didn't leave the Democrat party. The Democrat party left me".
 
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I've had both Republicans and Democrats in my congregations. Most of the Democrats as far as I know are not the foundation hating, communist loving leftists we have today in AOC and the rest of the squad. They were more like the old time Democrats such as JFK. One old man at my last church told me, "Pastor, I was a lifelong Democrat. I didn't leave the Democrat party. The Democrat party left me".
"The Democratic party left me'. How original. You sure you didn't read that line somewhere?
 

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"The Democratic party left me'. How original. You sure you didn't read that line somewhere?
They must have added a minimum IQ requirement.
Nah the same complaints we’ve heard about the repubs leaving them apply equally to the Dems. I was a dem my entire adult life. You think the spending they are trying to push with a 50/50 senate (pretending like they have a mandate) and the attendant policies bear any relation to clinton’s budgets? Add in the woke element and the crazy willingness to follow fauci telling you to lockdown and close your business when numbers don’t justify same (and the avg age of death is about 80 yrs old) or don’t properly weigh all policy considerations coupled with the incessant barrage of fear porn from the left controlled media and you have yourself a cult.

Dems today are the opposite side of the crazy coin. And far more cult like than anything trump ever did. Telling you about endless vaccinations, closing schools, keeping your home and biz on lockdown. Making people dependent on gov checks in the meantime. . That’s some scary controlling cult like shit
 
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Prager speaks with glittering generalities and cherry picks his examples.

Couldn't help myself. had to chuckle when listening to Prager tell about leftism destroying literature as exemplified by the University of Pennsylvania replacing a portrait of Shakespeare with a black lesbian poet.
Should have replaced the portrait with one of Francis Bacon, Christopher Marlowe, Ben Jonson, or Edward de Vere.
Amirite?
 

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I've had both Republicans and Democrats in my congregations. Most of the Democrats as far as I know are not the foundation hating, communist loving leftists we have today in AOC and the rest of the squad. They were more like the old time Democrats such as JFK. One old man at my last church told me, "Pastor, I was a lifelong Democrat. I didn't leave the Democrat party. The Democrat party left me".
Pay attention, everyone.

Showing his expert knowledge about Democrats, Van not only claims to be a pastor but vouches that has "had both Republicans and Democrats in my congregations" and actually spoke with an "old man."

Who can argue with that?
 

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I've had both Republicans and Democrats in my congregations. Most of the Democrats as far as I know are not the foundation hating, communist loving leftists we have today in AOC and the rest of the squad. They were more like the old time Democrats such as JFK. One old man at my last church told me, "Pastor, I was a lifelong Democrat. I didn't leave the Democrat party. The Democrat party left me".

Oh do tell us more. This is very intriguing. Probably could publish a book
 

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In that case, we do learn more about her, namely that she, presented with a lose-lose moral dilemma, cannot decide between the lesser of two evils when those two evils are to choose the death of an animal or choose the death of a human, knowing nothing about them. I agree with you, that's pretty f*cked up. I can see specific instances where someone might decide an individual human is not worth saving (say, Prager had presented her a choice between some random chicken and the high school gymnastics coach that sexually assaulted her for four years), but since both options were creatures unknown to her, I think the reasonable moral choice has to be to choose to save the human.
It's a f****ng chicken.
I fail to see the lose-lose moral dilemma.
I realize, being from Southern Indiana, I don't have the comparable cultural experiences. But come on...this hillbilly can solve this problem.
 
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Yes, human over chicken is pretty obvious. I dont see that as being a right vs left thing. That is just a peta thing.
 

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Unless we're talking Gacy, Dahmer, Bundy, etc.,this is a no brainer.
Even for a PETA loon.
You know, I'm not exactly IGW. I don't write 30,000-word diatribes with no discernible syntax or organization. But, since so many people seem to have difficulty reading until the end of a single paragraph, let me quote how I ended the post that everyone seems to have trouble with: "I think the reasonable moral choice has to be to choose to save the human."

Lose-lose doesn't mean the choices are equal. It just means that, in the context of this particular moral dilemma, both choices were bad for her. The fact that she couldn't easily determine that one choice was less bad obviously makes her a loon, in the minds of most of us, yours truly included. But that doesn't change the fact that she was, in fact, presented with two options that were both, in her mind, bad.

Let me illustrate this problem by changing Prager's dilemma. Instead of a chicken you don't know and a person you don't know, say Prager's murderous psycho is making you choose between your beloved family pet and your wife. I think we'd all agree that you have to choose to save your wife, right? And we would also all agree that choosing to kill your dog sucks, right? Lose-lose. One loss would be much bigger than the other, so the choice is obvious, but both choices are still losses.
 

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You know, I'm not exactly IGW. I don't write 30,000-word diatribes with no discernible syntax or organization. But, since so many people seem to have difficulty reading until the end of a single paragraph, let me quote how I ended the post that everyone seems to have trouble with: "I think the reasonable moral choice has to be to choose to save the human."

Lose-lose doesn't mean the choices are equal. It just means that, in the context of this particular moral dilemma, both choices were bad for her. The fact that she couldn't easily determine that one choice was less bad obviously makes her a loon, in the minds of most of us, yours truly included. But that doesn't change the fact that she was, in fact, presented with two options that were both, in her mind, bad.

Let me illustrate this problem by changing Prager's dilemma. Instead of a chicken you don't know and a person you don't know, say Prager's murderous psycho is making you choose between your beloved family pet and your wife. I think we'd all agree that you have to choose to save your wife, right? And we would also all agree that choosing to kill your dog sucks, right? Lose-lose. One loss would be much bigger than the other, so the choice is obvious, but both choices are still losses.
Chill out,man. I just made an observation. Ain't arguin' with you or anyone in this thread.
If you're upset that I called her a loon, remember, birds and humans are equal in her eyes.
 

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Chill out,man. I just made an observation. Ain't arguin' with you or anyone in this thread.
If you're upset that I called her a loon, remember, birds and humans are equal in her eyes.
I'm afraid I upset him by showing him exactly what the CDC recommended regarding large gatherings and how the Obamas are flaunting that.

Now he's taking it out on everyone else. Sad.
 

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Chill out,man. I just made an observation. Ain't arguin' with you or anyone in this thread.
If you're upset that I called her a loon, remember, birds and humans are equal in her eyes.
I called her a loon, too! Hell, I think almost all PETA folks are loons, as I said in my very first response to this. I'm just trying to make sure the people responding to me are clearly understanding what I'm saying, because that seems to be a serious problem lately.

Maybe I've lost my ability to write clearly.
 

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I called her a loon, too! Hell, I think almost all PETA folks are loons, as I said in my very first response to this. I'm just trying to make sure the people responding to me are clearly understanding what I'm saying, because that seems to be a serious problem lately.

Maybe I've lost my ability to write clearly.
Your writing is fine.
I knew what you were getting at.
 

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I called her a loon, too! Hell, I think almost all PETA folks are loons, as I said in my very first response to this. I'm just trying to make sure the people responding to me are clearly understanding what I'm saying, because that seems to be a serious problem lately.

Maybe I've lost my ability to write clearly.
We've all gotten dumber since Dan and Cray showed up.
 
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Your writing is fine.
I knew what you were getting at.
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Do you think Dennis Prager is a puppet of Falun Gong? That would be silly. Why don't you address Prager instead of trying to dismiss him completely due to some flimsy relationship (more likely no relationship) with Falun Gong?

I used to listen to Dennis Prager and he was always supremely cordial to all his guests, including liberal guests. One show I listened to he had a PETA activist (a female person) on and laid out a scenario for her and asked a simple question and the PETA activist's answer is one I'll never forget.

The scenario was that a man with a gun told you he was going to kill a chicken or a person who were both with him and the PETA person didn't know either the person or the chicken. The man said the choice of which of them would get killed was up to her, but one was going to die. The woman said she couldn't make that choice. I found it shocking that any human wouldn't value the life of a human stranger over that of ANY chicken. Seems like a person with a warped mind to me.
Lots of weirdos out there. That said, the hypothetical is just useless as the PETA representative's answer because the hypothetical would never happen...ever.
 

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Lots of weirdos out there. That said, the hypothetical is just useless as the PETA representative's answer because the hypothetical would never happen...ever.
That the hypo would never happen isn't the point.
 

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No dummy it goes to how you see the world. Religious values versus secular values. It's a common tool used for all sorts of educational purposes. That you see it as something "that would never happen" evidences the fact that you are a blinkard. Look no links required. Just my gut
Cray said we aren't allowed to use any “ard” words.
 
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Yes, human over chicken is pretty obvious. I dont see that as being a right vs left thing. That is just a peta thing.
You know, I'm not exactly IGW. I don't write 30,000-word diatribes with no discernible syntax or organization. But, since so many people seem to have difficulty reading until the end of a single paragraph, let me quote how I ended the post that everyone seems to have trouble with: "I think the reasonable moral choice has to be to choose to save the human."

Lose-lose doesn't mean the choices are equal. It just means that, in the context of this particular moral dilemma, both choices were bad for her. The fact that she couldn't easily determine that one choice was less bad obviously makes her a loon, in the minds of most of us, yours truly included. But that doesn't change the fact that she was, in fact, presented with two options that were both, in her mind, bad.

Let me illustrate this problem by changing Prager's dilemma. Instead of a chicken you don't know and a person you don't know, say Prager's murderous psycho is making you choose between your beloved family pet and your wife. I think we'd all agree that you have to choose to save your wife, right? And we would also all agree that choosing to kill your dog sucks, right? Lose-lose. One loss would be much bigger than the other, so the choice is obvious, but both choices are still losses.


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