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Taking out the trash

Public Affairs people put out the messages their boss wants them to put out. It's not an agenda position. As long as they're doing it honestly and competently it's just them doing their jobs.

You didn't point out hypocrisy. You made a very poor attempt at a whatabout as you often do. You have a tendency to believe "everything equals everything" and to complete disregard all differences and circumstances of these various situations.

New bosses replacing inherited advisors is as common as sand on a beach.
Yes, it's hypocrisy to point out your criticism of Trump for doing the same thing Biden did, with no comment from you. You have a double standard that is shown time and again.

"New bosses replacing inherited advisors is as common as sand on a beach."

So why are you whining about Peter Carr?
 
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Yes, it's hypocrisy to point out your criticism of Trump for doing the same thing Biden did, with no comment from you. You have a double standard that is shown time and again.

"New bosses replacing inherited advisors is as common as sand on a beach."

So why are you whining about Peter Carr?
You failed to point out any hypocrisy as usual and you still cannot understand differences between situations. They ARE NOT the same. You're terrible at whataboutism. :D
 
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You failed to point out any hypocrisy as usual and you still cannot understand differences between situations. They ARE NOT the same. You're terrible at whataboutism. :D
"New bosses replacing inherited advisors is as common as sand on a beach."

And yet you single out the Trump administration. That's hypocrisy, my friend. And you know it.
 
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"New bosses replacing inherited advisors is as common as sand on a beach."

And yet you single out the Trump administration. That's hypocrisy, my friend. And you know it.
Nope - not at all. This guy isn't an advisor who could influence policy, he's just a spokesman. It's not even clear he's an appointee. Many of these guys, except for military spokesmen and the White House Press Secretary, are hired for the job. Employee or appointee, it's clear this guy is being fired merely because of his being the PA guy for Mueller and Smith. You can at least acknowledge that, can't you?
 
Nope - not at all. This guy isn't an advisor who could influence policy, he's just a spokesman. It's not even clear he's an appointee. Many of these guys, except for military spokesmen and the White House Press Secretary, are hired for the job. Employee or appointee, it's clear this guy is being fired merely because of his being the PA guy for Mueller and Smith. You can at least acknowledge that, can't you?
Of course I acknowledge that - when did I ever deny it.

I just pointed out other instances where people were fired because they were appointed by Trump.

You're the one making a big deal out of a totally legal firing of a spokesman for 2 people who were tasked with sending Trump to prison. He picked the wrong horse to back and now he's probably collecting fat consulting fees from George Soros.
 
Of course I acknowledge that - when did I ever deny it.

I just pointed out other instances where people were fired because they were appointed by Trump.

You're the one making a big deal out of a totally legal firing of a spokesman for 2 people who were tasked with sending Trump to prison. He picked the wrong horse to back and now he's probably collecting fat consulting fees from George Soros.
Good for you!

The guy didn’t “back a horse.” He was hired or appointed during the Trump administration and did his job as a DOJ spokesman for 12 years. He was no Biden guy and there is zero reports that he didn’t do his job competently. This is nothing like replacing last minute appointees of a previous President.

He was probably a Republican too, but the President and MAGA don’t care about pissing off Republicans.
 
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Good for you!

The guy didn’t “back a horse.” He was hired or appointed during the Trump administration and did his job as a DOJ spokesman for 12 years. He was no Biden guy and there is zero reports that he didn’t do his job competently. This is nothing like replacing last minute appointees of a previous President.

He was probably a Republican too, but the President and MAGA don’t care about pissing off Republicans.
When you accept a job that is on the side of putting a former President in jail for bogus charges, you've picked a horse.

He could have easily said "Nah, this is too political. I'm out". Instead, he chose to go before the world and do his clown act.

As you yourself said, this is common and I still don't understand why you're making a big deal out of it, other than yet another chance to trash Trump.
 
When you accept a job that is on the side of putting a former President in jail for bogus charges, you've picked a horse.

He could have easily said "Nah, this is too political. I'm out". Instead, he chose to go before the world and do his clown act.

As you yourself said, this is common and I still don't understand why you're making a big deal out of it, other than yet another chance to trash Trump.
Nonsense. The man worked for the DOJ and did the job he was paid to do. The charges weren't bogus (I know you disagree), but it is not the PA guy's job to determine anything about the investigation or the charges because that's not his job. It's the PA guy's job to communicate the DOJ's message.

I'm not making a big deal out of it. It's only one of many examples of the revenge agenda the President has. If you hadn't chimed in with your extremely poor whatabout, I wouldn't have anything else to say about it.
 
Nonsense. The man worked for the DOJ and did the job he was paid to do. The charges weren't bogus (I know you disagree), but it is not the PA guy's job to determine anything about the investigation or the charges because that's not his job. It's the PA guy's job to communicate the DOJ's message.

I'm not making a big deal out of it. It's only one of many examples of the revenge agenda the President has. If you hadn't chimed in with your extremely poor whatabout, I wouldn't have anything else to say about it.
There is more than one spokesperson for the DoJ.

Funny how this guy gets Mueller and Smith - the main guys going after Trump.

But if you want to believe in coincidences when it comes to trying to get Trump, you go right ahead.
 
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There is more than one spokesperson for the DoJ.

Funny how this guy gets Mueller and Smith - the main guys going after Trump.

But if you want to believe in coincidences when it comes to trying to get Trump, you go right ahead.
Now I get it - you think there was a conspiracy involving the guy. LOL!!!!
 
It's cute you think there wasn't a conspiracy to go after Trump.

Naive, but cute.
It’s not possible for there to be a conspiracy as vast as it would have to be with all the that you believe. Countless investigators, lawyers, judges, leaders, clerks, Trump associates and their sworn statements, and now a spokesman. It’s laughable, but you can believe all the silliness you’d like to believe.
 
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When you accept a job that is on the side of putting a former President in jail for bogus charges, you've picked a horse.

He could have easily said "Nah, this is too political. I'm out". Instead, he chose to go before the world and do his clown act.

As you yourself said, this is common and I still don't understand why you're making a big deal out of it, other than yet another chance to trash Trump.
"bogus charges"

lol, do you get Magacard credit card points for posting this?
 
I’m amused that either political party claims to have some sort of moral superiority over the other. I believe Trump is the most corrupt, morally repugnant person that has ever served in the White House, but moral corruption is almost a job requirement so the argument of whether Biden or Trump is more morally dead is like trying to decide whether I’d rather eat hog balls or cow balls
 
It’s not possible for there to be a conspiracy as vast as it would have to be with all the that you believe. Countless investigators, lawyers, judges, leaders, clerks, Trump associates and their sworn statements, and now a spokesman. It’s laughable, but you can believe all the silliness you’d like to believe.
OMG, so precious.

You have the FBI director admitting he was trying to catch Trump and the texts between FBI agents and an FBI agent lying to get a FISA warrant and you think there's no conspiracy? lmao
 
"bogus charges"

lol, do you get Magacard credit card points for posting this?
Outside the charge of sexual assault, which was suddenly remembered 30 years later, what else was he convicted of?

Time in prison? Fines?
 
OMG, so precious.

You have the FBI director admitting he was trying to catch Trump and the texts between FBI agents and an FBI agent lying to get a FISA warrant and you think there's no conspiracy? lmao
Bullshit on the FBI Director admitting "trying to catch Trump." Comey? Wray? Link it. The FISA warrant thing is very minor in the overall investigation and it wasn't even for Trump, it was for Carter Page. At any rate, it's absolutely NOT evidence of a conspiracy. Even after all this time you believe some really ridiculous stuff.

I know you don't bother reading sources, but the IG looked into this entire thing and there is a report you can read:


Hint, there was no conspiracy discovered, but there were mistakes, and the FBI addressed all the IG's recommendations.
 
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What did/do you think about Bill Clinton's known womanizing and sexual misbehavior? What do you think about Donald Trump's known womanizing (cheated on all three of his wives) and sexual misbehavior?

The standard line these days to excuse immoral conduct by a Trump or Clinton supporter is to say, "I like his policies".

Hate to say it, but there may be some justification to the notion a polician's personal sexual conduct isn't as important as his policies.

Afterall, how much do we really know about the private sexual conduct of past and current political leaders?
 
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Bullshit on the FBI Director admitting "trying to catch Trump." Comey? Wray? Link it. The FISA warrant thing is very minor in the overall investigation and it wasn't even for Trump, it was for Carter Page. At any rate, it's absolutely NOT evidence of a conspiracy. Even after all this time you believe some really ridiculous stuff.

I know you don't bother reading sources, but the IG looked into this entire thing and there is a report you can read:


Hint, there was no conspiracy discovered, but there were mistakes, and the FBI addressed all the IG's recommendations.
I really can't tell if you're being serious.

Look up Crossfire Hurricane and learn something.
 
I really can't tell if you're being serious.

Look up Crossfire Hurricane and learn something.
Unlike you, I've read much of all the reports. You should just read the Executive Summary of the IG report. You won't because it won't support what you think you "know." Just as the Mueller Report, which you've also not bothered to read or even skim, doesn't support what you think you "know." Bottom line - mistakes were made, but there was NO conspiracy.

Where's the link of the FBI Director admitting he wanted to "catch Trump?"
 
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Outside the charge of sexual assault, which was suddenly remembered 30 years later, what else was he convicted of?

Time in prison? Fines?
Other than the 34 felonies, the J6 charges were legit but he fired them...your hero.
 
What did/do you think about Bill Clinton's known womanizing and sexual misbehavior? What do you think about Donald Trump's known womanizing (cheated on all three of his wives) and sexual misbehavior?
You didn't ask me, but IMO Clinton should have been convicted in the impeachment and escorted out of the WH.
 
President Clinton also lied to the American people. So has President Trump. I don't like that or defend it. Do you have a problem with their lying or want to defend either of them for lying?
What specific lie are you talking about with President Trump? Am I against lying? Yes, it's one of the 10 Commandments in Exodus 20.
 
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You didn't ask me, but IMO Clinton should have been convicted in the impeachment and escorted out of the WH.
I argued for it at the time. Of course, as the Florida Congressman (don't remember the guy's name) said when informed by a reporter that any commanding officer in the military would be fired for having an affair with a junior enlisted (Lewinsky equivalent), "the military's standards are too high." Maybe they were and he shouldn't have resigned or be impeached for the fraternization (affair) alone. However, he did commit perjury. If you ever read the Democrat's proposed censure of the President, it's pretty harsh. They basically lay out the case that he's guilty of obstruction and perjury but shouldn't be impeached for it. The Senate voted that down and impeachment played out to his non-conviction in the Senate. It's all history now.
 
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I asked for specifics.
Why should I take you seriously? You say lying is bad and a sin, but he's the most prolific liar ever to be President and you’ve nothing to say about that. You should just be able to comment on that alone. Why do you need a specific lie? Are you going to put these lies on a 1 to 10 on the sin scale?

Just for the heck of it, I'll point out a few lies off the top of my head and I'll paraphrase:

"The 2020 election was stolen." - The President knows that's a lie. Smith's report on election interference includes numerous statements from his staff and advisors saying that the President knew he lost the election but wanted to continue with that lie in his efforts to overturn the election. Now he can't take it back because too many morons actually believed him - and the President doesn't care that he's lying.

"In some states, babies are being aborted after birth." - A lie he told several times, but also in his June 2024 debate with Biden before Biden dropped out. Infanticide is illegal in every state.

"COVID is under control and will end by Easter." - Told this one at the beginning of the pandemic and he knew at the time that was a lie.

"My inauguration [Jan 2017] had the most attendance in history!" - Started his first term with and easily provable lie. There are pictures and video, and it was actually less than a third of the size of the attendance for Obama's inauguration. He lied about the size of his rallies every time as well. He also said that it didn't rain during that inauguration. Guess what? It did.

Others are "We'll repeal Obamacare on day 1 [of first Presidency]" - Never did. "Mexico will pay for the wall." - Yep, not at all. "Tariffs aren't a tax on Americans." - Of course they are. And on and on and on.

So, are all his lies little white lies?
 
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The standard line these days to excuse immoral conduct by a Trump or Clinton supporter is to say, "I like his policies".

Hate to say it, but there may be some justification to the notion a polician's personal sexual conduct isn't as important as his policies.

Afterall, how much do we really know about the private sexual conduct of past and current political leaders?
We know more about the (formerly) private sexual conduct of this board than we are allowed to know about the antics of Congress.
 
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We know more about the (formerly) private sexual conduct of this board than we are allowed to know about the antics of Congress.

Mass, spent enough time with male sport celebrites and politicians to know they attract what are often referred to as camp followers.

As for me, the temptations were virtually non-existent, so being virtuous was easy. Never blamed the celebs or pols for their lapses and kept my mouth shut.
 
You failed to point out any hypocrisy as usual and you still cannot understand differences between situations. They ARE NOT the same. You're terrible at whataboutism. :D
Dan’s only goal is to rile people up here. He has said so himself.
 
Unlike you, I've read much of all the reports. You should just read the Executive Summary of the IG report. You won't because it won't support what you think you "know." Just as the Mueller Report, which you've also not bothered to read or even skim, doesn't support what you think you "know." Bottom line - mistakes were made, but there was NO conspiracy.

Where's the link of the FBI Director admitting he wanted to "catch Trump?"
"Describing how it is usually done, Comey said, “If the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House counsel, and there would be discussions and approvals and who would be there.”

Recalling his decision to bypass those steps, Comey said, “I thought: ‘It’s early enough, let’s just send a couple guys over.’”

 
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