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Stat of the day (10): offense in 2nd half

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IU is currently top 10 nationally in second half margin (scoring).

It goes to show how good this team might be if they could start games off better.
 
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IU is currently top 10 nationally in second half margin (scoring).

It goes to show how good this team might be if they could start games off better.
I wonder how many really good teams show balanced scoring in both halves? Another way of saying this is how many good teams play at a very high level all game long?
 
IU is currently top 10 nationally in second half margin (scoring).

It goes to show how good this team might be if they could start games off better.

What this is saying, to me, is Archie is good at making adjustments. A little better shooting and we won’t have to make up huge deficits.
 
Ok, here's my question related to slow starts....

Since we have so few bodies at practice and the ones we have are really 11-15 on bench, are we having slow starts because we are unable to practice at game speed against scout team because they are not that good?

Seems like once we adjust to speed of the opponent, we do well. We just seem surprised how fast they move.

Just a thought......
 
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Ok, here's my question related to slow starts....

Since we have so few bodies at practice and the ones we have are really 11-15 on bench, are we having slow starts because we are unable to practice at game speed against scout team because they are not that good?

Seems like once we adjust to speed of the opponent, we do well. We just seem surprised how fast they move.

Just a thought......
You on to something . . . ;)

One of the reasons I’ve been impressed with Archie. People tend to discount just how much that impacts the development of your team.
 
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Ok, here's my question related to slow starts....

Since we have so few bodies at practice and the ones we have are really 11-15 on bench, are we having slow starts because we are unable to practice at game speed against scout team because they are not that good?

Seems like once we adjust to speed of the opponent, we do well. We just seem surprised how fast they move.

Just a thought......

Was watching a game last night. The announcer ( former coach) mentioned that one of the teams had a lot of early injuries. They went on to say that when you have many injuries early in the season it really hurts your teams chemistry and how they play together. Take it for what its worth.
 
Was watching a game last night. The announcer ( former coach) mentioned that one of the teams had a lot of early injuries. They went on to say that when you have many injuries early in the season it really hurts your teams chemistry and how they play together. Take it for what its worth.
he also screeched about little kisses and puppies and players wearing lingerie. take it for what it's worth
 
Trouble is, the slow starts seem more about defense and game-plan than offensive execution. Their weird Jekyll and Hyde defensive results can be maddening. I think we were on pace to give up 120 points after the first 10 minutes of the Michigan game.

Defense is about effort and principles, and Archie's principles don't change much from opponent to opponent, so it shouldn't be a question of getting used to them. We do the same thing to everyone. Pressure man to man inside 17 feet, pressure the ball everywhere, sag off of players outside 17 feet in order to help. Don't give up the baseline. Close-out under control, without fly-by's. Little to no switching. Hedge and recover ball screens. This wasn't a new game plan against Michigan. It's the game plan against everyone. The guys just aren't working hard enough at it early in games. And it isn't just against good teams.

In his radio show, Archie suggested that Morgan needs to demand the ball more early--implying that he isn't assertive early, despite the fact that his post-ups are often our most efficient offensive sets.

On the other hand, for all my complaining, our defense is WAY better than last year. WAY better. So, it's progress...and probably kind of amazing since we don't have a bonafide rim protector to clean up the drives that beat the ball pressure, but we do have freshman and sophomore heavy rotation.
 
Yup.

Here's a link to back you up.
More intriguing question is why.

With an injured bench, it doesn't seem likely that brilliant second half substitutions are the reason. Other pages on your link say IU is 169th nationally for fewest points given up in the first half but moves up to 9th nationally in fewest points given up in the second half. Couldn't find enough stats broken down per half to suggest a reason.

BTW, that link also says IU is 8th in effective field goal pct.
 
More intriguing question is why.

With an injured bench, it doesn't seem likely that brilliant second half substitutions are the reason. Other pages on your link say IU is 169th nationally for fewest points given up in the first half but moves up to 9th nationally in fewest points given up in the second half. Couldn't find enough stats broken down per half to suggest a reason.

BTW, that link also says IU is 8th in effective field goal pct.

Points per half isn't a great metric, because it's not tempo-free. But, I suspect that our team has a lower 2nd half FG defense, and eFG defense. My barely educated guess is that Archie jumps in their ass at halftime. And after the 1st and 2nd media timeout in the first half. And, because Archie has a tendency to sit people after 2 fouls in the first half, he tends to have better personnel getting more minutes in the second half of games where foul trouble crops up. That has an impact.
 
And, because Archie has a tendency to sit people after 2 fouls in the first half, he tends to have better personnel getting more minutes in the second half of games where foul trouble crops up. That has an impact.

Agreed with the part about it not being a great metric because it may just be showing we suck in the first half.

But the part I quoted.. that dynamic would fit every team in the country.
 
My thoughts are as follows:

This team seems to be a reflection of their on-court leaders.

RL has a very laid-back let the game come to him demeanor. That can come real handy when games are tight coming down to the end, staying calm, cool and collected. But it can also lead to slow starts. I read and article about his dad's influence on him, in his development years, to "show no emotion" on the court. That will serve him well in a NBA 82+ game schedule. It's not always a good thing in college where momentum and emotion can have bigger impacts.

RL seems to have a want to get an understand of what the other team is doing. He is more a strategic versus tactical.

JM just needs to be more aggressive and vocal from the get go in each and every game.

Obviously, as they go the team goes. I have no data, but I would bet that IU's slower starts are parallel to theirs. And mean more than by just scoring and efficiency. Their energy has an impact too on the rest of the team too. They just need to learn where they need to be more calm, and where they need to show some emotion and attitude... to have a better understanding of the "feel" for the game.
 
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