I'm surprised there's no thread. It seemed to me a good case was made for Ramsey.
I'm surprised there's no thread. It seemed to me a good case was made for Ramsey.
We've got two kids who we can reasonably expect to win games with. Ramsey is certainly less talented in many ways, but the kid does play hard and smart. Penix is the guy who just oozes talent with his high velocity arm/good mobility.
Penix lacks the experience right now, that's what's holding him back. I expect Penix to come in and play meaningful minutes in a couple of Big Ten games and allow us to win them. I also expect Penix to be the starter next year...maybe later this season. The reason for that is simple, he's the more talented player and once seasoned, he can do things Ramsey can not do.
I have nowhere near the optimism you have for Penix this year. To me he's a poor man's Ramsey. He did not look good to me today at all. Fumbled a snap, and then threw a stupid pass that was tipped and almost picked off.
I'm surprised there's no thread. It seemed to me a good case was made for Ramsey.
One played like a starter and one played like a backup. For me there’s no debate to be had.
I also expect Penix to be the starter next year...maybe later this season.
Yup!Ramsey certainly works those option fakes more smoothly. Not flashy but effective.
Why is there a question about who starts? Seems to me the answer has been on the field all season, and we've seen no reason for any change.I'm surprised there's no thread. It seemed to me a good case was made for Ramsey.
Or until Penix is more proficient than Ramsey.Mike Fiacable looked better than both of em.
He's my starter against M$U...
And that will hopefully wrap up our "QB controversy".
Ramsey's the starter till he is either injured or plays himself out of the job.
Ramsey is still my starter, but Penix actually had a higher QB rating in today's gameI have nowhere near the optimism you have for Penix this year. To me he's a poor man's Ramsey. He did not look good to me today at all. Fumbled a snap, and then threw a stupid pass that was tipped and almost picked off.
He also botched the timing on a play-action, and on another play threw way behind Majette, though Majette did do a 360 and make the catch on a swing play.
I'm not saying Penix looks horrible, just that he looks nowhere near as good as Ramsey.
Ramsey is still my starter, but Penix actually had a higher QB rating in today's game
Im getting full up with this...my last comment...RAMSEY IS THE STARTER....geeeshI'm surprised there's no thread. It seemed to me a good case was made for Ramsey.
Not sure where you came up with 50’s?!No he didn’t. MP’s QBR was down in the 50s.
I think he put nice touch on that little flare he threw to Majette for a T.D. down at FIU. That is something Lagow could not seem to do.One thing I've noticed, is Penix throws so damn hard sometimes the receivers arent ready for it. I haven't seen enough of a sample size to know whether he can put some touch on the ball.
Penix will be damn good. We're in a good spot with the QB situation. Need to get some hogs in next years class to have some time to mature so we have a nice line when Penix is a Jr/Sr.
Not sure where you came up with 50’s?!
Penix was over 128, 4-5 completions. Ramsey was 127.8.
BSU QB @ 90
I think he put nice touch on that little flare he threw to Majette for a T.D. down at FIU. That is something Lagow could not seem to do.
Not sure where you came up with 50’s?!
Penix was over 128, 4-5 completions. Ramsey was 127.8.
BSU QB @ 90
I vote for Johnny Pabst! He's Blue Ribbon!!!Exactly...
Penix will help us at some point but Ramsey's clearly the starter...
I vote for Johnny Pabst! He's Blue Ribbon!!!
? I didn't know there was a question as to who the starter is. Did I miss something?I'm surprised there's no thread. It seemed to me a good case was made for Ramsey.
? I didn't know there was a question as to who the starter is. Did I miss something?
So I didn't miss anything? This is just speculation for...no particular reason?Just the usual "everyone loves the backup" cr-p...
All I know for certain (given that I haven't been at practice; nor am I a highly experienced, highly paid, professional coach) what I see a
So I didn't miss anything? This is just speculation for...no particular reason?
Yes, that is true. I was just addressing the idea that Penix cannot put touch on the ball. He can. And he can throw a bad ball occasionally.Yet on that same play against Ball State, Penix threw a horrible pass to Majette who was forced to do a 360* in order to catch it.
He started 2 years in high school and threw 61 touchdown passes and 6 interceptions. He also averaged 12 yards per carry.Yes, that is true. I was just addressing the idea that Penix cannot put touch on the ball. He can. And he can throw a bad ball occasionally.
So he didn't start as a freshman over someone with more experience ? Even though he could throw the ball harder and farther ? His HS coach must have been an idiot. What if he had transferred ? Didn't the guy know that eventually against better competition Penix's laser-rocket arm was going to be their only chance to win ? dwsHe started 2 years in high school and threw 61 touchdown passes and 6 interceptions. He also averaged 12 yards per carry.
Find a post where I said Penix should be starting over Ramsey.So he didn't start as a freshman over someone with more experience ? Even though he could throw the ball harder and farther ? His HS coach must have been an idiot. What if he had transferred ? Didn't the guy know that eventually against better competition Penix's laser-rocket arm was going to be their only chance to win ? dws
Not necessarily aimed at you. Just commenting for the benefit of a couple of others who still are convinced Penix will need to supplant Ramsey once we hit better competition.Find a post where I said Penix should be starting over Ramsey.