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During today's congressional hearing on UFOs, here is an overview of some of the testimony given, all under oath:

  • What's being seen is so far advanced, our pilots were confident they wouldn't be able to defend themselves against whatever it is they're seeing.
  • Information about official US government contact / communicating with non-human intelligence is classified.
  • We have both recovered craft and biological non-human bodies in our possession. Specifics are classified and require a SCIF.
  • A list of both cooperative and potentially hostile witnesses working in the UAP recovery programs is being shared with the committee for future hearings.
  • The cooperative witnesses may only be willing to testify in closed hearing with assurances about their NDAs not being triggered and losing their jobs.

I honestly have no idea what to make of all this. It could just be some type of flying vessel that has been developed by another government that has genuinely taken us by surprise. Maybe a country like China has developed technology beyond anything we thought existed and have sent unmanned flights with test animals in them to see how drastically different g-forces and wildly shifting movement impact a living being. Who knows - I'm just totally spitballing here.

It seems like a lot of what's been said publicly is a lot of word salad that could be used to cover up the fact that we have some far superior technology from another government that we're trying to reverse engineer.

That said, I do wonder how the world would react if there ever was irrefutable evidence that we've been visited by aliens and have had contact with them.
 
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During today's congressional hearing on UFOs, here is an overview of some of the testimony given, all under oath:

  • What's being seen is so far advanced, our pilots were confident they wouldn't be able to defend themselves against whatever it is they're seeing.
  • Information about official US government contact / communicating with non-human intelligence is classified.
  • We have both recovered craft and biological non-human bodies in our possession. Specifics are classified and require a SCIF.
  • A list of both cooperative and potentially hostile witnesses working in the UAP recovery programs is being shared with the committee for future hearings.
  • The cooperative witnesses may only be willing to testify in closed hearing with assurances about their NDAs not being triggered and losing their jobs.

I honestly have no idea what to make of all this. It could just be some type of flying vessel that has been developed by another government that has genuinely taken us by surprise. Maybe a country like China has developed technology beyond anything we thought existed and have sent unmanned flights with test animals in them to see how drastically different g-forces and wildly shifting movement impact a living being. Who knows - I'm just totally spitballing here.

It seems like a lot of what's been said publicly is a lot of word salad that could be used to cover up the fact that we have some far superior technology from another government that we're trying to reverse engineer.

That said, I do wonder how the world would react if there ever was irrefutable evidence that we've been visited by aliens and have had contact with them.
Invented/created distraction. Nothing more.
 
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During today's congressional hearing on UFOs, here is an overview of some of the testimony given, all under oath:

  • What's being seen is so far advanced, our pilots were confident they wouldn't be able to defend themselves against whatever it is they're seeing.
  • Information about official US government contact / communicating with non-human intelligence is classified.
  • We have both recovered craft and biological non-human bodies in our possession. Specifics are classified and require a SCIF.
  • A list of both cooperative and potentially hostile witnesses working in the UAP recovery programs is being shared with the committee for future hearings.
  • The cooperative witnesses may only be willing to testify in closed hearing with assurances about their NDAs not being triggered and losing their jobs.

I honestly have no idea what to make of all this. It could just be some type of flying vessel that has been developed by another government that has genuinely taken us by surprise. Maybe a country like China has developed technology beyond anything we thought existed and have sent unmanned flights with test animals in them to see how drastically different g-forces and wildly shifting movement impact a living being. Who knows - I'm just totally spitballing here.

It seems like a lot of what's been said publicly is a lot of word salad that could be used to cover up the fact that we have some far superior technology from another government that we're trying to reverse engineer.

That said, I do wonder how the world would react if there ever was irrefutable evidence that we've been visited by aliens and have had contact with them.
Fascinating!!! for the sake of argument let's assume that they have recovered craft and biological non humans. do they have a duty to share it with us? is that something our gov should be concealing from us? or from the world? should they be making "best interest" judgment calls like that?

and if it is true, how defeated would you feel to be seti or any of these guys at a university waiting to hear a beep. or tracking a beep from 70 years ago
 
Fascinating!!! for the sake of argument let's assume that they have recovered craft and biological non humans. do they have a duty to share it with us? is that something our gov should be concealing from us? or from the world? should they be making "best interest" judgment calls like that?

and if it is true, how defeated would you feel to be seti or any of these guys at a university waiting to hear a beep. or tracking a beep from 70 years ago
I think that's kind of what they're trying to determine in these hearings. At minimum, they're saying there is an overall lack of transparency with regard to investigations of these types of findings/UFOs (or whatever they're calling them). Supposedly some of the witnesses have asked to testify and/or share more in closed hearings.

I honestly don't know where to land on would/should they tell the general public. To have irrefutable evidence that aliens not only exist but have visited here with technology US defense experts feel we're ill-equipped to handle seems kind of scary. I'm not sure who plausible that we'd ever be under alien attack, but verifiable proof that something like that COULD happen would probably freak a lot of people out.
 
I think in the early 1940’s the Grand Gray alien held a meeting with his counsel.

“We must go to earth and save them from themselves. My vision has shown me they are not intellectually, or emotionally mature enough to handle future advances coming their way.”

“We can’t scare them with an abrupt appearance, as they’ll most assuredly think we mean them harm, not realizing we could destroy them at anytime, unannounced. But we need to prepare them for our eventual return.”

“We will initially appear only to doofuses in backwater settings, in the middle of nowhere. It will plant the seed of our presence, but no one will believe them.”

“We will gradually increase our presence hoping my vision is incorrect and the earthlings will gain the wisdom to match the scientific advancements we have gifted them.”

“However, we will need to test their wisdom. If things continue to get worse, we will install our most despicable specimen into the highest office, in the territory that leads the world. If that fails, we will then install yet another ridiculous leader of the world, and observe the earthlings reaction. Report back to me in 80 years.”

“Umm, Grand Gray, it’s worse than we thought. The earthlings want specimen A to challenge specimen B for leader of the world.”

“Damn, step up our presence and sightings to the highest levels. We’re going in!”
 
Zero chance this is true. Something like that could not be kept under wraps for even an hour, let alone decades.
Who can get into places like Area 51? And why when someone gets near it the military immediately sends armed personnel to keep you from getting close? There’s enough remote lands in the western US that could house well guarded facilities.
 
I refuse to believe with how many galaxies are out there that we are the only beings in existence at this very moment.

I also think its highly probable that we are not the most intelligent beings alive today.
 
Too much smoke, for former military officers to be lying under oath, in my opinion.

Acceleration rates that would kill human pilots were observed.
Humans did not pilot such vessels.
 
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Too much smoke, for former military officers to be lying under oath, in my opinion.

Acceleration rates that would kill human pilots were observed.
Humans did not pilot such vessels.
If there are alien vessels visiting the Earth, they are almost certainly unmanned and controlled by computers dating back millennia at the least.
 
I refuse to believe with how many galaxies are out there that we are the only beings in existence at this very moment.

I also think its highly probable that we are not the most intelligent beings alive today.
It’s not necessarily intelligence, but an intelligent species could’ve come into existence millions (or billions?) of years before humans, thus having a huge head start in technological advancement.
 
here is an overview of some of the testimony given, all under oath:

  • What's being seen is so far advanced, our pilots were confident they wouldn't be able to defend themselves against whatever it is they're seeing.
  • Information about official US government contact / communicating with non-human intelligence is classified.
  • We have both recovered craft and biological non-human bodies in our possession. Specifics are classified and require a SCIF.
  • A list of both cooperative and potentially hostile witnesses working in the UAP recovery programs is being shared with the committee for future hearings.
  • The cooperative witnesses may only be willing to testify in closed hearing with assurances about their NDAs not being triggered and losing their jobs.

I honestly have no idea what to make of all this. It could just be some type of flying vessel that has been developed by another government that has genuinely taken us by surprise. Maybe a country like China has developed technology beyond anything we thought existed and have sent unmanned flights with test animals in them to see how drastically different g-forces and wildly shifting movement impact a living being. Who knows - I'm just totally spitballing here.

It seems like a lot of what's been said publicly is a lot of word salad that could be used to cover up the fact that we have some far superior technologyfrom another government that we're trying to reverse engineer.

That said, I do wonder how the world would react if there ever was irrefutable evidence that we've been visited by aliens and have had contact with them.

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Maybe because we are the only ones with alien ships?

I want to see the ships and bodies before I take any of this at face value.
I'm going with time travelers - humans from the future.
 
During today's congressional hearing on UFOs, here is an overview of some of the testimony given, all under oath:

  • What's being seen is so far advanced, our pilots were confident they wouldn't be able to defend themselves against whatever it is they're seeing.
  • Information about official US government contact / communicating with non-human intelligence is classified.
  • We have both recovered craft and biological non-human bodies in our possession. Specifics are classified and require a SCIF.
  • A list of both cooperative and potentially hostile witnesses working in the UAP recovery programs is being shared with the committee for future hearings.
  • The cooperative witnesses may only be willing to testify in closed hearing with assurances about their NDAs not being triggered and losing their jobs.

I honestly have no idea what to make of all this. It could just be some type of flying vessel that has been developed by another government that has genuinely taken us by surprise. Maybe a country like China has developed technology beyond anything we thought existed and have sent unmanned flights with test animals in them to see how drastically different g-forces and wildly shifting movement impact a living being. Who knows - I'm just totally spitballing here.

It seems like a lot of what's been said publicly is a lot of word salad that could be used to cover up the fact that we have some far superior technology from another government that we're trying to reverse engineer.

That said, I do wonder how the world would react if there ever was irrefutable evidence that we've been visited by aliens and have had contact with them.
China is behind us technologically, not vastly ahead. If there is something we (the public) don’t know about in that area, it’s us (our govt) making it and this is all part of keeping that secret but scaring the Chinese about what we might have (and that’s probably what this is and we DONT have that kind of advanced tech).
 
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I’d like to believe that too, but I think physics says it’s impossible to travel backwards in time.
Well, physics, as we knowit, doesn't apply to these UFOs, so what we know about physics evidently isn't complete.
 
I’d like to believe that too, but I think physics says it’s impossible to travel backwards in time.
I'm with you on this.

If time travel is possible there is no way it wouldn't have already been abused for evil purposes. That also kind of implies we're among the most advanced civilizations, meaning we're still to a point marching along a singular timeline.
 
During today's congressional hearing on UFOs, here is an overview of some of the testimony given, all under oath:

  • What's being seen is so far advanced, our pilots were confident they wouldn't be able to defend themselves against whatever it is they're seeing.
  • Information about official US government contact / communicating with non-human intelligence is classified.
  • We have both recovered craft and biological non-human bodies in our possession. Specifics are classified and require a SCIF.
  • A list of both cooperative and potentially hostile witnesses working in the UAP recovery programs is being shared with the committee for future hearings.
  • The cooperative witnesses may only be willing to testify in closed hearing with assurances about their NDAs not being triggered and losing their jobs.

I honestly have no idea what to make of all this. It could just be some type of flying vessel that has been developed by another government that has genuinely taken us by surprise. Maybe a country like China has developed technology beyond anything we thought existed and have sent unmanned flights with test animals in them to see how drastically different g-forces and wildly shifting movement impact a living being. Who knows - I'm just totally spitballing here.

It seems like a lot of what's been said publicly is a lot of word salad that could be used to cover up the fact that we have some far superior technology from another government that we're trying to reverse engineer.

That said, I do wonder how the world would react if there ever was irrefutable evidence that we've been visited by aliens and have had contact with them.
Testimony given under oath. So if these guys are lying what are the ramifications? Several of these people are being interviewed by a guy named Shawn Ryan and revealing what they said. One of the guys worked for Raytheon. There's a scary company. He was contracted in Antarctica and mentions several things they are working on and some of the capabilities. Pretty fascinating, but also scary as hell. Look up Erik Hecker interview if you want to see it.

Some of it we are already aware of like directed energy weapons systems but it's much further along than we imagined. It was and has been posted here many times about the MIC. These companies have billions at their disposal so in Antactica of all places who in the hell knows what they are messing with. This guy Erik Hecker reveals some of what sounds legit and some??? Crazy stuff.
 
Testimony given under oath. So if these guys are lying what are the ramifications? Several of these people are being interviewed by a guy named Shawn Ryan and revealing what they said. One of the guys worked for Raytheon. There's a scary company. He was contracted in Antarctica and mentions several things they are working on and some of the capabilities. Pretty fascinating, but also scary as hell. Look up Erik Hecker interview if you want to see it.

Some of it we are already aware of like directed energy weapons systems but it's much further along than we imagined. It was and has been posted here many times about the MIC. These companies have billions at their disposal so in Antactica of all places who in the hell knows what they are messing with. This guy Erik Hecker reveals some of what sounds legit and some??? Crazy stuff.
Lying about knowledge of content deemed classified isn't really lying.

The problem with offering up the inability to answer due to it being classified tends to mean there is something there, he/she just can't say it.
 
Any other countries?
Like who?

This reminds me of a scene in season 3 of For All Mankind - the episode where American astronauts land on Mars. (Like the guy testifying yesterday, I'm not going to divulge the good stuff.)
 
Like who?

This reminds me of a scene in season 3 of For All Mankind - the episode where American astronauts land on Mars. (Like the guy testifying yesterday, I'm not going to divulge the good stuff.)
Yeah I guess there aren’t any other countries that would be possible.
 
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Lying about knowledge of content deemed classified isn't really lying.

The problem with offering up the inability to answer due to it being classified tends to mean there is something there, he/she just can't say it.
Or, he doesn't really know but is pretending that he does. I mean, he already gave up some classified information in his testimony, but decided to draw the line as he saw fit.
 
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Testimony given under oath. So if these guys are lying what are the ramifications? Several of these people are being interviewed by a guy named Shawn Ryan and revealing what they said. One of the guys worked for Raytheon. There's a scary company. He was contracted in Antarctica and mentions several things they are working on and some of the capabilities. Pretty fascinating, but also scary as hell. Look up Erik Hecker interview if you want to see it.

Some of it we are already aware of like directed energy weapons systems but it's much further along than we imagined. It was and has been posted here many times about the MIC. These companies have billions at their disposal so in Antactica of all places who in the hell knows what they are messing with. This guy Erik Hecker reveals some of what sounds legit and some??? Crazy stuff.
Eric Hecker is not believable. Dude was a firefighter and plumber. His explanation of quantum entanglement communication is just loony. And his claim that the U.S. accidentally caused the earthquakes in Christchurch? Absurd.
 
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No way aliens exist, but i also don't believe in dinosaurs.

I think dinosaurs existed, but not in the way we see them in books. It is hard for me to believe in illustrator can accurately depict an animal from a couple bones, or a footprint in stone. E.G., you wouldn't draw an elephant's trunk if you found the skeleton and never seen an elephant. There could have been a dinosaur with 4 or 5 penises, and you would have no idea since they are long gone......some turret of penises type lizard should be illustrated...........how does one become a dinosaur illustrator?
 
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No way aliens exist, but i also don't believe in dinosaurs.

I think dinosaurs existed, but not in the way we see them in books. It is hard for me to believe in illustrator can accurately depict an animal from a couple bones, or a footprint in stone. E.G., you wouldn't draw an elephant's trunk if you found the skeleton and never seen an elephant. There could have been a dinosaur with 4 or 5 penises, and you would have no idea since they are long gone......some turret of penises type lizard should be illustrated...........how does one become a dinosaur illustrator?
BTW, did you hear the one about the dinosaur with 5 penises?


His pants fit like a glove.
 
Eric Hecker is not believable. Dude was a firefighter and plumber. His explanation of quantum entanglement communication is just loony. And his claim that the U.S. accidentally caused the earthquakes in Christchurch? Absurd.
I agree which is why I said some seems on target and other crazy stuff. My point is a MIC company, as large as Raytheon, armed with billions turned loose in the Antarctic? Neither you, nor I could even imagine what they are doing. And it's not for the benefit of mankind I can assure you.
 
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