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SIAP: Adidas to offer nil money to players

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I thought this was specifically prohibited?...maybe since they're offering to everyone, they've found a loophole. Adidas is shaaaaddyy though. I'd have my radar up if I were IU compliance people.

The first kid that played on the Adidas AAU circuit, that rolls into Bloomington in a Range Rover...I'd hope we're prepared for that and don't allow or condone it.
 
I thought this was specifically prohibited?...maybe since they're offering to everyone, they've found a loophole. Adidas is shaaaaddyy though. I'd have my radar up if I were IU compliance people.

The first kid that played on the Adidas AAU circuit, that rolls into Bloomington in a Range Rover...I'd hope we're prepared for that and don't allow or condone it.
If it was via this, or any NIL deal, I'd say you better rethink your stance, as that would be 100% legal and an NIL deal that would allow a player to score a RR, probably means he's very highly rated.
 
That for NIL novices like me simplifies a bunch. At least contract paperwork can be standardized. Now who does the decision making for amounts paid. Adidas, some clearinghouse, who's the middle man? Cavanagh where are you?
 
I thought this was specifically prohibited?...maybe since they're offering to everyone, they've found a loophole. Adidas is shaaaaddyy though. I'd have my radar up if I were IU compliance people.

The first kid that played on the Adidas AAU circuit, that rolls into Bloomington in a Range Rover...I'd hope we're prepared for that and don't allow or condone it.
What part of it is prohibited, in your mind?

Do you really think Adidas is so dumb they would issue a press release saying they were going to break the rules at every Adidas school in the NCAA? Really?
 
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I thought this was specifically prohibited?...maybe since they're offering to everyone, they've found a loophole. Adidas is shaaaaddyy though. I'd have my radar up if I were IU compliance people.

The first kid that played on the Adidas AAU circuit, that rolls into Bloomington in a Range Rover...I'd hope we're prepared for that and don't allow or condone it.
You’ve had way too much Koolaid to think we’re a squeaky clean program who hasn’t played the same game as everyone else.
 
What part of it is prohibited, in your mind?

Do you really think Adidas is so dumb they would issue a press release saying they were going to break the rules at every Adidas school in the NCAA? Really?
I thought when first introduced, NIL specifically prohibited players from being paid by shoe companies that schools had deals with?

Very well might be dreaming it up though?

But we're a few years into this, something had to have changed, because this would have been THE easiest and most natural way for high level athletes, especially football and basketball kids, to get NIL money.

Many of them were already getting it from the AAU circuit they played on anyways.
 
You’ve had way too much Koolaid to think we’re a squeaky clean program who hasn’t played the same game as everyone else.
so what are you saying? That we cheat just like everyone else...except that we suck at it?

Seriously, not ONE good thing from you, EVER. Either part of the Painter cult, or a Fayette County (KY) meth cooker.
 
i thought the NIL basically had no rules.

or none that can't easily be circumvented just by going through 3rd parties.

the schools didn't like the "bad look" of 50 plus million per yr to the schools just in media, before any gate or donations are figured in, millions per yr to the coaches, and tuition and room and board to the kids, of which the tuition part effectively cost the schools little to nothing.

what they didn't want with any remedy to said "bad look", was so much as one cent coming out of their own pockets, so they came up with the NIL thing.

but effectively gave up all ability to control or police things, in doing so.

and imo, money will eventually come out of their own pockets anyway, as much as they didn't want it to, (3rd parties will force that imo), so they'll have given up all control, eventually without achieving their objective for doing so..
 
i thought the NIL basically had no rules.

or none that can't easily be circumvented just by going through 3rd parties.

the schools didn't like the "bad look" of 50 plus million per yr to the schools just in media, before any gate or donations are figured in, millions per yr to the coaches, and tuition and room and board to the kids, of which the tuition part effectively cost the schools little to nothing.

what they didn't want with any remedy to said "bad look", was so much as one cent coming out of their own pockets, so they came up with the NIL thing.

but effectively gave up all ability to control or police things, in doing so.

and imo, money will eventually come out of their own pockets anyway, as much as they didn't want it to, (3rd parties will force that imo), so they'll have given up all control, eventually without achieving their objective for doing so..
I can't fathom how we wouldn't have seen very large shoe company contracts though, if it had been allowed from day 1 with NIL. There had to be some sort of rule against school sponsored apparrel companies paying players directly.

Like there's very, very little chance Chet Holmgren wouldn't have had a high 6, to even 7 figure Nike contract, if that were allowed...and that we wouldn't have known about it, if so.
 
I thought when first introduced, NIL specifically prohibited players from being paid by shoe companies that schools had deals with?

Very well might be dreaming it up though?

But we're a few years into this, something had to have changed, because this would have been THE easiest and most natural way for high level athletes, especially football and basketball kids, to get NIL money.

Many of them were already getting it from the AAU circuit they played on anyways.

I would guess it is more likely that players couldn't have nil deals with companies that compete with the school's company.

So what would a player wear at an adidas school if he had a deal with nike?
 
I can't fathom how we wouldn't have seen very large shoe company contracts though, if it had been allowed from day 1 with NIL. There had to be some sort of rule against school sponsored apparrel companies paying players directly.

Like there's very, very little chance Chet Holmgren wouldn't have had a high 6, to even 7 figure Nike contract, if that were allowed...and that we wouldn't have known about it, if so.

he who pays the money makes the rules, not he who receives the money.

just ask your friendly politician about that.
 
so what are you saying? That we cheat just like everyone else...except that we suck at it?

Seriously, not ONE good thing from you, EVER. Either part of the Painter cult, or a Fayette County (KY) meth cooker.
Yes that’s basically what I’m saying. I wouldn’t so much say cheat as I would say play in the grey.
 
so what are you saying? That we cheat just like everyone else...except that we suck at it?

Seriously, not ONE good thing from you, EVER. Either part of the Painter cult, or a Fayette County (KY) meth cooker.
He has no idea. He just throws sit out there to get attention.
 
I thought this was specifically prohibited?...maybe since they're offering to everyone, they've found a loophole. Adidas is shaaaaddyy though. I'd have my radar up if I were IU compliance people.

The first kid that played on the Adidas AAU circuit, that rolls into Bloomington in a Range Rover...I'd hope we're prepared for that and don't allow or condone it.
You need to abandon the holier than thou attitude. It's the new rules, and you either play by them or get left behind.

Liberalism destroys everything it touches, and the woke a$$holes in power at the NCAA are determined to destroy college athletics.

You can expect a Duke, Kansas, UNC and Kentucky basketball final four almost every year. Their players will be paid the most NIL money, and will thus attract the top players. No more one-and-done when you can make as much money in college as you can in the G-League.
 
It's just a matter of time before it hard to differentiate Hoosier uniforms from NASCAR.
 
I thought this was specifically prohibited?...maybe since they're offering to everyone, they've found a loophole. Adidas is shaaaaddyy though. I'd have my radar up if I were IU compliance people.

The first kid that played on the Adidas AAU circuit, that rolls into Bloomington in a Range Rover...I'd hope we're prepared for that and don't allow or condone it.
Where have you been? The train has left the station. Players are going to be making more money than professors. The NCAA has now acknowledged that amateurism is a thing of the past.
 
You need to abandon the holier than thou attitude. It's the new rules, and you either play by them or get left behind.

Liberalism destroys everything it touches, and the woke a$$holes in power at the NCAA are determined to destroy college athletics.

You can expect a Duke, Kansas, UNC and Kentucky basketball final four almost every year. Their players will be paid the most NIL money, and will thus attract the top players. No more one-and-done when you can make as much money in college as you can in the G-League.
You do understand that the NCAA fought tooth and nail against NIL, correct? It wasn't their idea, it was forced upon them by the courts who weren't fooled by the NCAA's song and dance about "student-athletes". This has been coming for the past 30 or more years, since the NCAA sold its soul for TV money and basketball and football players began to live their college years isolated from the rest of the student experience. NIL just redirects a few slices of the pie away from coaches and administrators and into the hands of the day laborers who make them rich. Under-the-table cash and other benefits have been flowing into the top programs for 70 years. It's how many of the bluebloods became bluebloods, and why those teams constantly attract the top talent - and why they typically make up the bulk of the final four.

This is only news if you've been paying absolutely no attention or living on another planet since 1950. LIberalism has nothing to do with any of this, and the people that you are accusing of being "determined to destroy college athletics" fought against this as long and hard as they could. It isn't their fault that a bunch of judges finally called b.s. on the plantation system that exploited talented athletes for millions in the name of "amateurism".
 
You do understand that the NCAA fought tooth and nail against NIL, correct? It wasn't their idea, it was forced upon them by the courts who weren't fooled by the NCAA's song and dance about "student-athletes". This has been coming for the past 30 or more years, since the NCAA sold its soul for TV money and basketball and football players began to live their college years isolated from the rest of the student experience. NIL just redirects a few slices of the pie away from coaches and administrators and into the hands of the day laborers who make them rich. Under-the-table cash and other benefits have been flowing into the top programs for 70 years. It's how many of the bluebloods became bluebloods, and why those teams constantly attract the top talent - and why they typically make up the bulk of the final four.

This is only news if you've been paying absolutely no attention or living on another planet since 1950. LIberalism has nothing to do with any of this, and the people that you are accusing of being "determined to destroy college athletics" fought against this as long and hard as they could. It isn't their fault that a bunch of judges finally called b.s. on the plantation system that exploited talented athletes for millions in the name of "amateurism".

the whole brilliance of NIL from the schools' perspective, is that zero slices of the pie are directed away from schools themselves, coaches and administrators, who worship capitalism as much as any hedge fund manager or corporate CEO.

at least zero slices of the pie are directed away in theory. but in actual application, is where theory will go out the window.

that said, for the administrators, they have no choice.

as for "who" destroyed college amateur athletics, it was the schools, the coaches, and the administrators, not the players.

with the schools themselves, who have been totally captured by pure capitalistic forces, being most to blame. (which is a whole nother discussion).

the players wanted theirs, after the schools, coaches, administrators, had already killed and burried the "amateur" part, and turned it into a full fledged no holds barred capitalistic professional venture.

still, the schools could have paid the players something, and kept some control over the situation.

but holding on to every cent they could, which they did with a tighter grip than Charlton Heston clutched is rifle, was their prime objective far more than keeping any control over the matter.

and in the end, imo, that will cost the schools more than had they just paid the players themselves something and kept some control of the matter, once 3rd parties blow up the "in theory" part, and force the schools themselves to come up with the money the schools hoped outside interests would.

and in giving up all control, schools gave up the ability to keep a level playing field, rather than it eventually becoming a pure bidding war with not even a salary cap.

and don't forget my warning about 3rd parties forcing the schools themselves to be the ones coming up with the money after all, except absent any controls the schools would have had, had they just paid the players themselves in the first place.
 
… and basketball and football players began to live their college years isolated from the rest of the student experience.
Hearing about this kind of thing is when I began to recoil. Dorms built specifically for the players, “student”-athletes who do all, or nearly all, their coursework online so as to not interfere with their training regimens (which I first learned of in relation to - you guessed it - OSU football) …

It’s jumped the rails and there’s no extant machinery heavy enough to put it all back on.
 
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Hearing about this kind of thing is when I began to recoil. Dorms built specifically for the players, “student”-athletes who do all, or nearly all, their coursework online so as to not interfere with their training regimens (which I first learned of in relation to - you guessed it - OSU football) …

It’s jumped the rails and there’s no extant machinery heavy enough to put it all back on.

unregulated capitalists took over college sports, just as they did our govt, and have done an equally disastrous job of running both, for everyone but themselves.
 
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