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Rockfish1

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So the Russians put a thumb on the scale of our presidential election, and they're reportedly still roiling our news cycles with fake news bots. This raises the obvious question: How many of the posters on this board are Russian bots? I'm guessing a small but non-zero number.
 
So the Russians put a thumb on the scale of our presidential election, and they're reportedly still roiling our news cycles with fake news bots. This raises the obvious question: How many of the posters on this board are Russian bots? I'm guessing a small but non-zero number.
Y'all keep forgetting that had the hacks of the DNC and Podesta emails revealed wedding photos and yoga tutorials they wouldn't have mattered. Had Clinton not deleted those communications in the first place, there would likely have been no interest from wikileaks. It is a tangled web, indeed, woven once Hillary chose to deceive. The obsession by everyone in the left with Russia is entertaining, but is getting your party nowhere. So, carry on, I suppose?

At any rate, I don't use Twitter or Reddit for anything. I use Facebook for posting pics of grandkids, vacations and the occasional caught fish. The best feature of all social media is the 'unfollow' button. Craziness from indivuals or ads or hyper-partisan shadiness gets unfollowed and I don't get bothered by it anymore. Anyone relying on any of those sites for news deserves what they get.
 
Y'all keep forgetting that had the hacks of the DNC and Podesta emails revealed wedding photos and yoga tutorials they wouldn't have mattered. Had Clinton not deleted those communications in the first place, there would likely have been no interest from wikileaks. It is a tangled web, indeed, woven once Hillary chose to deceive. The obsession by everyone in the left with Russia is entertaining, but is getting your party nowhere. So, carry on, I suppose?

At any rate, I don't use Twitter or Reddit for anything. I use Facebook for posting pics of grandkids, vacations and the occasional caught fish. The best feature of all social media is the 'unfollow' button. Craziness from indivuals or ads or hyper-partisan shadiness gets unfollowed and I don't get bothered by it anymore. Anyone relying on any of those sites for news deserves what they get.
What were the most important scandals revealed by the emails?
 
What were the most important scandals revealed by the emails?
I think the DNC-favored-Hillary stuff confirmed to the Never-Hillary crowd that she was unscrupulous and power-mad. Perhaps not surprising among politicians, and certainly overblown, but a direct consequence of her deleting emails she had been directed to turn over.

Contrast those with the Dossier and the P*$$y grab tape scandals. It's clear this GOP electorate wanted Trump no matter what, and were determined not to let their candidate be harpooned by opposition research gotchas. Electing Trump is an FU! to Democrats, Repubs and the entire political system. Scandals be damned.

My Never-Hillary position was born way before Trump ever decided to run. Then Trump beat my candidate, too. He united a broad swath of folks against business as usual. If the Democrats don't drop this sour grapes nonsense and develop some decent candidates and strategies with cross-over appeal, we'll have Cheeto-in-Chief for a second term.

Now, I reserve the right to change my prediction upon the presentation of hard evidence that Trump or his team broke election laws. However, if the Uranium One deal is considered to be above-board negotiations with an otherwise 'hostile nation', then the bar Trump's cronies must have crossed to reach impeachable corruption has been set mighty high.
 
I think the DNC-favored-Hillary stuff confirmed to the Never-Hillary crowd that she was unscrupulous and power-mad. Perhaps not surprising among politicians, and certainly overblown, but a direct consequence of her deleting emails she had been directed to turn over.

Contrast those with the Dossier and the P*$$y grab tape scandals. It's clear this GOP electorate wanted Trump no matter what, and were determined not to let their candidate be harpooned by opposition research gotchas. Electing Trump is an FU! to Democrats, Repubs and the entire political system. Scandals be damned.

My Never-Hillary position was born way before Trump ever decided to run. Then Trump beat my candidate, too. He united a broad swath of folks against business as usual. If the Democrats don't drop this sour grapes nonsense and develop some decent candidates and strategies with cross-over appeal, we'll have Cheeto-in-Chief for a second term.

Now, I reserve the right to change my prediction upon the presentation of hard evidence that Trump or his team broke election laws. However, if the Uranium One deal is considered to be above-board negotiations with an otherwise 'hostile nation', then the bar Trump's cronies must have crossed to reach impeachable corruption has been set mighty high.
So the emails confirmed that some within the Democratic National Committee preferred the Democrat in the Democratic primary. That was the most important scandal the emails revealed?
 
So the emails confirmed that some within the Democratic National Committee preferred the Democrat in the Democratic primary. That was the most important scandal the emails revealed?
Interesting to see this being summarily whitewashed by your side. It's not surprising which candidate the DNC officers preferred. The problem is when they manipulated the process in favor of Clinton, while continuing to maintain the appearance that the membership and donors who supported Bernie were participating in a fair contest. After all 'fair' is the domain of the left, is it not?
 
But it was above-board. The only reason it's a story is because idiots on the right are grasping at anything "Clinton!...Russia!..." to deflect away from the Mueller investigation.
The Clinton's got $500k and $145 m in CGI donations. That doesn't smell fishy to you?
 
Interesting to see this being summarily whitewashed by your side. It's not surprising which candidate the DNC officers preferred. The problem is when they manipulated the process in favor of Clinton, while continuing to maintain the appearance that the membership and donors who supported Bernie were participating in a fair contest. After all 'fair' is the domain of the left, is it not?
It's not being whitewashed. There's literally no scandal there to whitewash. It was just normal government business.
 
No, because I'm smart enough to recognize that a charity and a campaign fund are two separate things.
Then you're positive the sources of and the circumstances surrounding all that money are legit and totally unrelated to negotiating the sale of control of all of that uranium to a 'hostile state'.
 
Then you're positive the sources of and the circumstances surrounding all that money are legit and totally unrelated to negotiating the sale of control of all of that uranium to a 'hostile state'.
I'm positive you have zero evidence to suggest it is. I generally follow the "innocent until proven guilty" maxim, a maxim that has never applied to the Clintons as far as conservatives are concerned.
 
I'm positive you have zero evidence...maxim that has never applied to the Clintons as far as conservatives are concerned.
True and true, but there is exactly the same amount of hard evidence against the Clintons as Mueller has shown on Trump so far, but that doesn't preclude thousands of posts here stating how guilty he is.
 
True and true, but there is exactly the same amount of hard evidence against the Clintons as Mueller has shown on Trump so far, but that doesn't preclude thousands of posts here stating how guilty he is.
Perhaps, but you'll be hard pressed to find a post where I have stated that Trump himself is guilty of anything (other than things he's actually admitted to, like sexual assault). There's a lot more smoke around his campaign than there ever was around HRC, but it's still just smoke, and we* haven't identified where the fires are. Could be the three guys already charged are as far as it goes. Could be forty more people get indicted. We just don't know yet.

*By "we," I mean us randoms on message boards. Mueller may very well already know who is guilty of what, and is simply busy trying to build the appropriate cases.
 
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True and true, but there is exactly the same amount of hard evidence against the Clintons as Mueller has shown on Trump so far, but that doesn't preclude thousands of posts here stating how guilty he is.
To be clear, that's not to say I don't have an opinion on the matter. I think it's very likely that people very high in the Trump organization violated some laws. There's way too much smoke surrounding the casino collapse and reinvigoration of Trump real estate investments with Russian funds to not have something there. Trump himself? DJT Jr.? Kushner? Someone else? I don't know, but I'll be shocked if Mueller doesn't find someone in the Trump organization committed at least some financial crimes.

But you won't see me saying "Trump is guilty! Impeach him!" Because I don't know if he's guilty.

(You might see me say "Trump is incompetent! Impeach him!" on the other hand, because I think we already have the necessary information to make that judgment.)
 
Interesting to see this being summarily whitewashed by your side. It's not surprising which candidate the DNC officers preferred. The problem is when they manipulated the process in favor of Clinton, while continuing to maintain the appearance that the membership and donors who supported Bernie were participating in a fair contest. After all 'fair' is the domain of the left, is it not?
What is being whitewashed? How did the DNC "manipulate[] the process in favor of Clinton"?

You keep shifting from baseless allegation to baseless allegation without ever proving anything. Remember that this started with your claim that the hacked emails revealed something intrinsically important. Everything else is you trying (unsuccessfully) to justify that claim.
 
I'm positive you have zero evidence to suggest it is. I generally follow the "innocent until proven guilty" maxim, a maxim that has never applied to the Clintons as far as conservatives are concerned.

How about the temporal relationship between the uranium deal and WJC's mystery meeting with Putin, WJC's speech in Russia for twice his normal fee and the Russian contribution to the Clinton Foundation? If by evidence you mean an unambiguous admission of guilt, or a smoking gun paper trail, you are just being obstinate. Circumstances are also evidence in every court in the United States.
 
Then you're positive the sources of and the circumstances surrounding all that money are legit and totally unrelated to negotiating the sale of control of all of that uranium to a 'hostile state'.
I don't believe you have any idea what the facts of the Uranium One matter actually are.
 
How about the temporal relationship between the uranium deal and WJC's mystery meeting with Putin, WJC's speech in Russia for twice his normal fee and the Russian contribution to the Clinton Foundation? If by evidence you mean an unambiguous admission of guilt, or a smoking gun paper trail, you are just being obstinate. Circumstances are also evidence in every court in the United States.
Now CO. Hoosier is a Russian bot.
 
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How about the temporal relationship between the uranium deal and WJC's mystery meeting with Putin, WJC's speech in Russia for twice his normal fee and the Russian contribution to the Clinton Foundation? If by evidence you mean an unambiguous admission of guilt, or a smoking gun paper trail, you are just being obstinate. Circumstances are also evidence in every court in the United States.
If the best you can do is a post hoc argument, that's pretty weak sauce.
 
What is being whitewashed? How did the DNC "manipulate[] the process in favor of Clinton"?

You keep shifting from baseless allegation to baseless allegation without ever proving anything. Remember that this started with your claim that the hacked emails revealed something intrinsically important. Everything else is you trying (unsuccessfully) to justify that claim.
The whitewashing is the asignation by your side of "business as usual" status to deception and shenanigans within your party which caused at least the ouster of its chairperson, and possibly defrauded it's own electorate. Then through crocodile tears you rail against Trump claiming he has sullied the sanctity of the great American election process. Hillary was the most qualified candidate who ever ran for president, so since she lost, it must be because Russia, and not because she's a dishonest slimeball who people don't really like all that much.
 
The whitewashing is the asignation by your side of "business as usual" status to deception and shenanigans within your party which caused at least the ouster of its chairperson, and possibly defrauded it's own electorate.
What deception? Which shenanigans? What electoral fraud? You're just throwing shit at the wall now.
 
The whitewashing is the asignation by your side of "business as usual" status to deception and shenanigans within your party which caused at least the ouster of its chairperson, and possibly defrauded it's own electorate. Then through crocodile tears you rail against Trump claiming he has sullied the sanctity of the great American election process. Hillary was the most qualified candidate who ever ran for president, so since she lost, it must be because Russia, and not because she's a dishonest slimeball who people don't really like all that much.
Hold on. I can't keep up with the bouncing around. I thought originally you were accusing Uranium One of being whitewashed. Now it's the primary? Two separate issues.

I've already stated numerous times I think DWS was anything but impartial, and I'm damn glad she was ousted (should have happened much sooner), but that doesn't mean Bernie was robbed. Remember that joint fundraising memo? The DNC signed one with Bernie, too.
 
CO. is engaged in wingnut fever swampery. The entire Uranium One controversy is unadulterated bullshit. (More here and here.) Everything must be Benghazi! with these guys. It's stupid.
The difference I see is that very few will defend Trump's behavior and connections with the "nothing to see here" refrain Hillary defenders keep singing, but she keeps tracking muddy footprints all over the place, and we are told it's not her fault, but a vast right-wing conspiracy against her.
 
The difference I see is that very few will defend Trump's behavior
LOL.

and connections with the "nothing to see here" refrain Hillary defenders keep singing, but she keeps tracking muddy footprints all over the place, and we are told it's not her fault, but a vast right-wing conspiracy against her.
What muddy footprints? This is the issue. You're being fed crap by right-wing blogs that there's something there, but there's nothing there. It's a fake scandal.

I don't even like Clinton. I supported Bernie. I still think he was the right choice. But even I find this to be worth nothing but eye-rolls. Find a real scandal, and we'll talk.
 
The difference I see is that very few will defend Trump's behavior and connections with the "nothing to see here" refrain Hillary defenders keep singing, but she keeps tracking muddy footprints all over the place, and we are told it's not her fault, but a vast right-wing conspiracy against her.
What muddy footprints? There's literally nothing to what you're saying.

I get it. You hate Hillary. Quit pretending it's more than that.
 
LOL.


What muddy footprints? This is the issue. You're being fed crap by right-wing blogs that there's something there, but there's nothing there. It's a fake scandal.

I don't even like Clinton. I supported Bernie. I still think he was the right choice. But even I find this to be worth nothing by eye-rolls. Find a real scandal, and we'll talk.
As long as she keeps popping up like a Wac-a-Mole, there will be folks looking for a hammer. I'd be fine if she would just fade away.
 
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