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Russia-Ukraine war has begun

Now is the time to constantly communicate with the Russian troops to let them know the Wagner troops have left the front and are marching on Moscow. Now is the time for them to surrender and stop being killed. Offer them safety and a rapid return to their families.
Excellent point. A psy-ops operation could really be effective now.
 
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Prigozhin better hope for a quick victory. The Russian military isn't going to do his logistics for him - food, ammunition, etc. He'd better have a lot stored away or know how to get them.

He may have help inside the Russian military. I doubt he's doing this on a whim, so he's had to have things planned out.

Vindmann was saying that he moves fast, his experience in planning coups across the globe has taught him speed is critical. And the Russian military is not speedy.
 
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How can this guy do with 25,000 ish troops what the Germans could not do with multiple armies?

They’re letting this guy drive through the country for some reason.
 
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How can this guy do with 25,000 ish troops what the Germans could not do with multiple armies?

They’re letting this guy drive through the country for some reason.
I think it shows just how inept the Russian military is. I don't think anyone had any idea how dysfunctional they were before Ukraine.

The were good at killing lightly armed Syrians, but not so great against modern weaponry.

The corruption in Russia - and their military - is at a level we can't comprehend.
 
I think it shows just how inept the Russian military is. I don't think anyone had any idea how dysfunctional they were before Ukraine.

The were good at killing lightly armed Syrians, but not so great against modern weaponry.

The corruption in Russia - and their military - is at a level we can't comprehend.
This is going to make the battle of the five families look pedestrian.
 
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I think it shows just how inept the Russian military is. I don't think anyone had any idea how dysfunctional they were before Ukraine.

The were good at killing lightly armed Syrians, but not so great against modern weaponry.

The corruption in Russia - and their military - is at a level we can't comprehend.

They also started behind the front lines. The bulk of Russia's military equipment is between them and Ukraine, not them and Moscow.
 
It’s not winter and the Russian people aren’t likely to resist.
Also there might be generals sitting on the sidelines waiting to back the winner. If Putin sacks the high command, everyone gets a promotion. If the high command starts to stop Wagner, they can join in exhibiting their loyalty and bravery.
 
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How can this guy do with 25,000 ish troops what the Germans could not do with multiple armies?

They’re letting this guy drive through the country for some reason.

I don't claim to know nothing, but if Wagner is moving en mass toward Moscow why haven't the Ruskies simply carpet bombed and strafed the shit out of them.?
 
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I actually watched CNN last night - as good a coverage as I've seen, as much as it pains me to say.

Their international staff is pretty extensive.

American media overall is poor on international coverage, I go to BBC for that. But it is the one area CNN is best for in America. Their domestic coverage sucks as much as Fox, but they do have people around the world.
 
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I don't claim to know nothing, but if Wagner is moving en mass toward Moscow why haven't the Ruskies simply carpet bombed and strafed the shit out of them.?
They have some, but there are stories that he has control of many of Russia's best anti-aircraft equipment. Supposedly one plane and one helo have been downed.
 
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Probably because this is all theater. Until a bullet flies on video this is all a psy op to get Ukraine to do something stupid.

Interesting take. So this is all for show? No actual division here? Trying to lure the Ukes out somehow?
 
They also reported 2k Wagner infantry killed by russian artillery. Seems a bit nonsensical no?
I didn't see that on reddit, was it on there? I thought that came from CNN? either way, not critical at all, just reports. I was just now checking back in and they've created a new reddit for WagnervrsRussia. They are reporting 7 downed russian aircraft. I don't know the like kind of their aircraft to know which are rotor wing vrs fixed wing.
 
Also there might be generals sitting on the sidelines waiting to back the winner. If Putin sacks the high command, everyone gets a promotion. If the high command starts to stop Wagner, they can join in exhibiting their loyalty and bravery.
Who does China want to come out on top? That’s who likely will…
 
The US Government advising that they can not evacuate US citizens from Russia due to the fact that they've had travel advisories about Russia for years.
Leadership better pray that American's aren't put in harms way. Afghan withdrawal 2.0 .
This is total popcorn worthy.
 
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Wow, didn't predict this. Ukraine should be preparing to ramp offensive up to 11.

If he can get either the air force to sit out, or mass protests to join them, this could become very real.

Imagine 100,000 people taking to the streets of Moscow today.

Smerconish has Vindmann on, Vindmann is saying Prigozhin is an expert on coups and has headed up many of them. He also says his fear are the strategic bases, many are near Rostov and having them fall into unknown hands has been our biggest fear.
I heard Wagner is doing this in good faith
 
Per CNN, Wagner is now turning around after a deal was brokered by Lukashenko of Belarus.
 
Per CNN, Wagner is now turning around after a deal was brokered by Lukashenko of Belarus.
I thought Belarus was about to explode as the separatist saw their opportunity to be free again.

This is going to be fun to watch...... from far away.
 
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I'm seeing several post saying that prigozhin said F U ! ... I agree, you don't go this far and jsut say, oops we done... He stops now, he's dead. There's only one victory at this point.

So Putin takes him and his forces out, who's going to fight the Ukes?
 
So Putin takes him and his forces out, who's going to fight the Ukes?
Good question. But to turn it around (although I know this is vodka induced leadership....in Russia), even if Vlad doesn't take out Wagner, will Wagner fight the ukes? I know crap over there is like 3 ex wives fighting over their fabrage Eggs, but What possibly can go right for putin in this? I think he wishes he could be sadam in a better hole right now. BUT, then again, those people are beyond predictable. God save the russian, every day normal people, while their control freak leadership fight it out.
I hope Vlad doesn't tweet mean things, it'll be his end. Covfefe! bitches.
 
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