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I think it depends on the intensity you did. If it felt like you were putting a lot of effort into it, I'd say you probably will be sore. I never get super sore from it though and I think that's because it's such a good whole body workout that you're not stressing any one part too much.
Did you do an ERG/Concept 2 rower? That's what I have at home and they have a great app and website to track your progress and also to measure against others, and they do challenges, etc... A good way to do a solo workout but still feel some of the benefits of competing against yourself and others. They also have a million meters club and will send you a certificate and tshirt when you hit it. Fun to have some goals for a workout to me.
Yeah, even when I've felt like I killed it, I've never felt super sore. Usually if anything I feel a little stiff in my back. I love it. My knee has been f'd for about 5 months now and I've not been able to keep my routine, but hoping to get back to it soon.
Yeah, I've had regular issues with my knee. I can't jog for more than half a mile without pain and swelling, but rowing doesn't bother it at all. I'm gonna try to keep at it.
The rowing is by far the best on my knee, but about any activty, even climbing stairs or carrying stuff can get it swelling again. It's been frustrating. Getting old, ain't for the faint of heart!
I get it. Did 2 5 min sets this morning. On the second set I cracked 1k in just under 5 mins.
I'm very weak right now, but I think that might be from the lunges I'm doing in between sets. I might fall down today. Hope I don't break a hip. Ugh I'm old.
Hey Man, don't sweat it: you're out there "doing something" which is better than 95% of the population. I still have a competitive mindset and want to push myself, but I'm a lot better about saying f it and allow my body to rest. I'm not training for a race or anything so if I need to take a week (or month) off, it's better to get muself healthy so I can keep on keeping on!
Thanks Frik: you got me motivated to get back downstairs and row last night. I've lost a ton of endurance and strength over these last few months, but I want to try and get it back. Before my knee went AWOL, I was just starting to mess with the ERG website where I could compare my times for different distances to my age group and you can sort it by state, country and world. I forget what I was trying to get to, but I think top 2 in SC, top 100 in the country and top 300 in the world. I accomplished the first 2, but needed to shave about 15 seconds off my 5K time to get there. I think my best was like 19:06 and think I needed to get under 18:50 to get top 300 (appears to be lots more rowers in Europe, especially GBR and Scandavian countries as you might guess). I'll have to work to get back to where I can even do a 5K for time. I'd guess if I did do it right now it would be north of 21 minutes. I did 20 mins last night and think I got to 4600 meters (I don't think time/distance comparisons are very meaningful across different machines). But, it's easy to see how you can get sucked in. The thing I like about the ERG, is this is all free. I don't get a "class" experience like with Peloton, but it does motivate you and allow you to compete. And, I'm not sure there aren't "group rows" so I could explore that more, but honestly, I prefer solo cardio workouts. Put on some pumping music and bust it!
I think SD being AWOL motivated me too. He got a Concept 2 after me but was more diligent and did longer rows, so I think when I was just getting to my million meter certification, he was well on his way to 2 million! If you have an interest, I'd suggest looking in to a Concept 2. I got mine the October just before covid (2019?) and it was still on Amazon Prime, so I got it in 2 days for $900. Fast forward 3-4 months and they were off Amazon Prime and $1300 with an 8-12 week backlog. But I think there are just far more users out there so you can get all the tracking and time comparisons for free. But, I also understand if you prefer to hit a gym. I've built up a pretty decent home gym with that, a dip/pull up bar, heavy and speed bag, a resistance band set for strength training, dumbbell set and of course my bike and local trails and a paddleboard for cardio. I've probably spent less than $2000 for all of that (including paddleboard, which was a gift, and bike) so with what I was paying for a gym, about a 2 year payback.
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while I enjoy rowing and think it's the best workout, I'm never one to write off the benefits of cross training....Boring threads need pics
Glad to help. The machine I'm on is at the gym in my country club. I might buy my own if I get way into it, but I'm like 3 sessions in. Heh.
I row more during the winter when here in Indiana there's no reason to go outside.
I also went to a KETO diet (mostly) and boy does that f*ck up your endurance (turns out carbs are important for that).
I'm getting near 50 and really i'm just trying to keep the times I've already done.
Still doing a lot of 10,000's and trying to stay at or around 42 mins
Doing 30mins rows and staying above 7k pace. My "goal" is to someday get north of 7500
Would love to get a 2k under 7mins
But my problem is always that i tend to do more outdoor shit during srping/summer/fall and let the rowing fade off to just a few times a month.
I concur with kkott on the Concept 2... great machine without the frills of a color monitor, etc.
I picked mine up in the middle of the pandemic when the gym was out of the question...August 2020 after a 6 month wait list at Rogue. I am now at 3.7 MM. I try to do 30 to 60 minutes a day. I still haven't returned to the gym but hope to do so soon. Its so easy just to go out in the garage and get in a quick workout.
Manimal! I've barely rowed since October. I went on a bike ride with a buddy and went farther and faster than I should have, and my knee's been f'd ever since!
People always talk about how great riding a bike is for your knee, but honestly for me, nothing seems to have F'd it up more.
All right SD, I'm finally starting to get back on my rower and did a timed 2K last night: 7:42. I don't have the endurance to really do a hard 5K right now, so I thought maybe mixing in some of the other distance and timed rows might get me motivated and help me get back in shape quicker.
How's your rowing going? You just seem to keep on truckin'! I hope to get there and so far my knee seems to be holding up.
How's your rowing going? You just seem to keep on truckin'! I hope to get there and so far my knee seems to be holding up.
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Glad to hear you're back at it kk!
I will have had my Concept 2 for two years next month and I'm at 4.1 MM....looking to get my free long sleeve tee shirt for 5MM sometime early next year.
Currently wrapping up a 3 week stay in Hawaii (which is why no recent friday funnies). Have not been able to row and my knee pain is worse. I have figured out my knee hurts less when I'm diligent with the rowing so that's my motivation.
Aloha!
Wow, 4 mm, that's amazing, congrats! I haven't checked my total in awhile, but think I'm around 1.3mm. I wasn't able to row for almost 6 months, but I keep adding a little distance and effort and my knee is handling it well. Like you, I think my knee feels better when I'm rowing and also keeping to a lighter weight.
SD, building back up, so I've started by doing a timed 2K row, instead of the 5K... not in good enough shape to bust a 5K yet. I'm 2nd in SC by 2 seconds for the 2K, so I'm hoping to be #1 after my Saturday row, then I'm going to start working on the 5K. I also want to try some of the timed rows where you just see how far you can row in a minute, 10 minutes or 30. I really like the update to the ERG app and how it shows details of your row. It puts a baseline pace in, and then shows your row and where you exceeded or dropped below the pace line. Do you ever look at that?
Yes that update to ERG is an improvement. I think you are doing it right with the timed workouts, etc. Seems as though everything I read is that HIIT workouts are the way to go.
For me, I am just a grinder. I've done a few timed workouts but normally I focus on 30 to 60 minutes at about a 2:40 /500mm pace. I'm just a grinder 😣 I get my 5k to 10k meters in while cranking the music. I get almost into a meditative mode.. Seems to work for me.
One of these days I'm gonna get back to the gym regularly.
Man, barely made it, but I'm now #1 in SC 50-59 for 2000 meters... by under a second. I love the stats page on the app as it shows your baseline pace and then where you were in relation to that during the row. I'd been going out hard and well above the baseline for the first half, then I'd drop down. Yesterday, I did a steady pace in the first half and then picked it up in the second and literally beat the time by .6 seconds!Yes that update to ERG is an improvement. I think you are doing it right with the timed workouts, etc. Seems as though everything I read is that HIIT workouts are the way to go.
For me, I am just a grinder. I've done a few timed workouts but normally I focus on 30 to 60 minutes at about a 2:40 /500mm pace. I'm just a grinder 😣 I get my 5k to 10k meters in while cranking the music. I get almost into a meditative mode.. Seems to work for me.
One of these days I'm gonna get back to the gym regularly.
If you want to work in some HIIT, even when I'm rowing steady, I usually try and work in a higher intensity 4 minute stretch where I increase my pace and level by about 10%. Once I get in shape, I might do a stretch of those: 4 minutes hard, 4 recovery, 4 minutes hard.... I row about 30 strokes/minute, so when I'm going hard I try and count 120 strokes (watching the clock makes me crazy!). That's a good way to do it and build your strength.
Congrats buddy...#1 in the state!
Keep up the good work..I'll try and take you up on the HIIT workout tip. I know it's a better workout...getting that heart rate up!
Yeah, I read that in GQ or a Men's Journal or something, but that's how it recommended approacing almost any cardio. Said there was something extra beneficial about the 4 minute interval and I do believe most cardio is best done by mixing up the intensity. If nothing else it keeps your mind engaged and makes you focus when you are tired, which I think is also good for the noggin'/ I'm gonna keep working on the 2K time until I can get it under 7:30 then hopefully by that time I'll be in good enough shape to start doing timed 5Ks and 30 minute rows.
I got there Sunday: 2k in 7:29! #1 in SC and 35th in the country so far this year for 2K in my age group! As much as the 2K's been kicking my behind, I don't know how I'm going to do a hard timed 5K, but I'm gonna try again. What I was most happy about with that row was that at the end I still felt strong. In my past timed rows, I was on fumes and just trying to finish.
You know the wild thing, is that when I look at the very best times for about any event, most of the best times are recorded by 16-21 year olds. I figured like with most things, the peak times would be from rowers 24-34, but that's not how it looks. I'm just guessing that if you're rowing competitively at that age you're mostly not recording times on ERG and are competing for a club or something, whereas the younger kids want to have them recorded and seen maybe because they want to be recruited?
Way to go!...you have me motivated to do a timed row..maybe a 5k... I'm not to optimistic I can put up your kind of times...as I'm a slow grinder but we'll see...
Do you do any of the Rogue challenges?....those are pretty good motivators too...their Dog Days Challenge (10k first week, 20k second week, 30k the third and 40k the last week) is just wrapping up...good way to rack up some meters..
Thank you, and that's awesome! They have longer ones too: 10K and 30 minute timed rows, so maybe the longer the better. I think with how in shape you are, you're going to surprise yourself. At least in SC, only about the top 5-6 are faster times, I could probably do some training rows that would be top 10 for 5K.
I've seen those, but haven't so far. So, are you basically just doing 10K each week and they get added on to your month to date total from the previous week(s)? Or, are you literally doing 40K meters in the last week?
Some of the challenges you sign up for and some you are entered automatically....the Dog Days challenge is automatic.
From the home page of your log book just click at the top on "challenges". That will take you to the challenges page and you'll see the Dog Days listed...it shows your weekly progress and the totals are per week..after today I will have met the challenge...this was a pretty easy one for me as I usually put in 50-60k per week when I'm home.
Also on that page it shows your average daily meters for the season.....
You commit to some timed rows, and I'm going to set the 5mm mark as a goal... someday! I still only row every other day, so it will take me a LONG time to do that. I think I'm around 1.4mm now, so maybe another 3-4 years!
Man SD, best row ever this morning! I'd lost the top spot for the 2K in SC 7:29 to 7:22. Frankly I thought it was too big a gap, but I paced at 7:20 and I stayed there for 1000 meters (1:50), then bumped it up a couple seconds and was staying at 1:48 for the next 500, hoping to kick at the end, but I couldn't get it any faster. Still finished at 7:16. #1 in SC, 19th in US and 111th in the world. I've been doing longer workouts with those 4 minute intervals and I think it's paying dividends. Actually made me think about breaking 7 minutes!
Wow kk, that is turning and burning..congrats!
Looks like if you broke 7 minutes it would put you in the top 8 in the country for your age group!
I decided to try a timed 2k and finished at 8:40 ... if I work at it I would hope I could cut some time off that but I don't have the fast twitch muscles I used to have I guess.....I'll just keep grinding out the mileage
How do you set your resistance? I watched a video on that, and it's not really meant to be used to make the workout tougher, but rather match the resistance to the style that works best for you. I have slow twitch, so I had been setting it at about 7.5 but most of the good rowers I've listened to, have it set around 4-5. That gets me too winded, but I did bump it down to about 6 and have to believe that helped.Wow kk, that is turning and burning..congrats!
Looks like if you broke 7 minutes it would put you in the top 8 in the country for your age group!
I decided to try a timed 2k and finished at 8:40 ... if I work at it I would hope I could cut some time off that but I don't have the fast twitch muscles I used to have I guess.....I'll just keep grinding out the mileage
Mine is set at 5 which is what I saw recommended when I got the C2... maybe I'll try it a big higher
No, I keep saying I'm going to get one but never have. I think it would be a good idea.. let me know if you get one and how you like it
I'm gonna get one, just have to figure out which one I need and would like. Looks like it should do bluetooth to the ERG and it will then store some of it's data from the workout. I posted on their ERG forum to try and get some info. It seems maybe the best ones are chest monitors, but it also seems like watches do all of that so I'm wondering why not just get a watch... not as accurate?
I'm going to try and improve my times and I figured to do so, I need to row faster than I do in the 2K row, so I'm going to mix in some intervals. Last night I did a 5 min warmup and cool down and then for the workout I did 8 intervals of 30 seconds hard and then a 90 second easy recovery row. Honestly surprised I couldn't go much lower. My 2K pace was 1:49/500 and on the 30 second hard rows about 1:40-1:42 was the best I could do. I think with a balky knee and ankle, I have some mechanical issues that keep me from extending my stroke at either end the knee keeps me from compressing too far and the ankle from laying out fully... although I've had people tell me not to lay all the way back. Hard to learn what the proper form is without a coach or trainer. Thank goodness for youtube.
Got a few answers to my forum post on concept2 site and almost all recommended Polar H9 or H10, so I pulled the trigger on the H9 and should have it by this weekend. I'll let you know how it goes!
I got the Polar H9 heart monitor and it was super easy to synch up (it was $64.15 on Amazon with tax). Can't say it's the most comfortable thing to wear, but also easy enough to put on and was just a bit scratchy and the PM5 recognized it immediately when I hit the connect button and it began monitoring right away. The heart rate just shows up on the display and it also displays and records on the app and logbook.
Jumped back up to a 5K Sunday and was having a good row and on pace probably for around a 19:05, but died at 4,000 meters and slowed from a 1:54-55 500 pace to like 2:03. Just couldn't go that hard anymore. I was able to get back to the 1:54 pace for the final 500 and even managed a little kick for the last 100 and finished at 19:13, which I think beat my previous PR from last year of 19:15. Definitely hope to get under 19 and think I'll be able to barring injury. It said my average HR was 171 and high was 181. Probably too high for me (according to an article I found on Concept2, for my age my max should be 163-166). I figure everyone's different, but wonder if there is a danger of going a bit above what it says?
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