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Rick Pitino time?

Pitino and Sampson are both habitual cheaters and proven losers.

I can't believe that makes it onto an IU basketball board.
 
Okay I'll play. Let's hire Sampson back and also put together an African American studies Department like North Carolina had. And while we're at it get the assistant coach from Louisville Who provided the recruits and players with the $1 bills for the strippers.
 
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So, it's time to hire a guy who has arranged for players to get cars, strippers and/or sex at two schools at least (Hawaii and Louisville), who has had one scandal after another, has had a national title vacated due too his dirty dealings and has not only run afoul with the NCAA, but the DOJ?

As good a coach as Rick Pitino is, he is an exponentially worse human being. He has cheated as a coach at all levels, he has cheated as a husband, he has cheated as a human being and the worst part of it all, he takes as little accountability as one can regarding all those things. He is a textbook sociopath who I wouldn't want anywhere near anything or anyone I care about.
 
So, it's time to hire a guy who has arranged for players to get cars, strippers and/or sex at two schools at least (Hawaii and Louisville), who has had one scandal after another, has had a national title vacated due too his dirty dealings and has not only run afoul with the NCAA, but the DOJ?

As good a coach as Rick Pitino is, he is an exponentially worse human being. He has cheated as a coach at all levels, he has cheated as a husband, he has cheated as a human being and the worst part of it all, he takes as little accountability as one can regarding all those things. He is a textbook sociopath who I wouldn't want anywhere near anything or anyone I care about.
That might actually get Bob Knight to talk about IU. Cmon you guys are better than that.
 
So, it's time to hire a guy who has arranged for players to get cars, strippers and/or sex at two schools at least (Hawaii and Louisville), who has had one scandal after another, has had a national title vacated due too his dirty dealings and has not only run afoul with the NCAA, but the DOJ?

As good a coach as Rick Pitino is, he is an exponentially worse human being. He has cheated as a coach at all levels, he has cheated as a husband, he has cheated as a human being and the worst part of it all, he takes as little accountability as one can regarding all those things. He is a textbook sociopath who I wouldn't want anywhere near anything or anyone I care about.
So, it's time to hire a guy who has arranged for players to get cars, strippers and/or sex at two schools at least (Hawaii and Louisville), who has had one scandal after another, has had a national title vacated due too his dirty dealings and has not only run afoul with the NCAA, but the DOJ?

As good a coach as Rick Pitino is, he is an exponentially worse human being. He has cheated as a coach at all levels, he has cheated as a husband, he has cheated as a human being and the worst part of it all, he takes as little accountability as one can regarding all those things. He is a textbook sociopath who I wouldn't want anywhere near anything or anyone I care about.
I agree it's not an ideal hire. Still, this program has hit a point over the last 20 years, that perhaps it's time to do away with ideals. UNC, Kansas, Duke, Kentucky and so on do not care about "doing things the right way". No they care about winning...recruits, media, fans they don't care either. Just an old guard of "holier than thou" Hoosiers. It's not 1987 anymore. The American culture has changed & it may be time Hoosiers change as well. Cheating is not looked at the way it used to be. It just gets swept under the rug when the next big story breaks. There are two groups of teams in the NCAA: cheaters & losers. Right now we are the latter.
 
I agree it's not an ideal hire. Still, this program has hit a point over the last 20 years, that perhaps it's time to do away with ideals. UNC, Kansas, Duke, Kentucky and so on do not care about "doing things the right way". No they care about winning...recruits, media, fans they don't care either. Just an old guard of "holier than thou" Hoosiers. It's not 1987 anymore. The American culture has changed & it may be time Hoosiers change as well. Cheating is not looked at the way it used to be. It just gets swept under the rug when the next big story breaks. There are two groups of teams in the NCAA: cheaters & losers. Right now we are the latter.

Yes, cheating exists and sometimes is rewarded. But more often than not, it's the last gasp of the desperate to try and hold onto their jobs. For every cheating winner, there are 10 cheating losers. It's also a convenient yet lazy excuse of an accusation to be levied by losers towards perennial winners. Duke is a prime target for this due to their 3 decades plus success under Coach K. Is Duke cheating? I have never seen a whiff of impropriety surrounding Duke. Does Jay Wright cheat @ Nova? How about Beilein or Ryan or Stevens or Matta or Few? These are all teams that have made or won the NCAA Championship the past decade or so. and perennially compete @ a high level. There are several other coaches and schools through that time which have built winning programs and don't cheat. Winning and cheating are not mutually exclusive, nor does cheating guarantee winning (see all the morons who were caught up in the recent FBI probes).

Proposing that hiring a known cheat in hopes that he will cheat AND win for us a cure for our basketball ills is a non sequitur, and quite frankly we are better than that.
 
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Okay I'll play. Let's hire Sampson back and also put together an African American studies Department like North Carolina had. And while we're at it get the assistant coach from Louisville Who provided the recruits and players with the $1 bills for the strippers.
U want to win or lose
 
Do you really want these mentors or role models for these young men? It's not about" high Horse". it's about credibility. Those two bring none of it to a program. Sampson is a better human being than Pitino though.Give Archie at least a total of four years to get his team in place.If he doesn't succeed by then. Fire him and Glass.Hire Randy Wittman as AD and get a fiery coach who is not afraid to sit a "star' on the bench.Toughness is a need in the coach as well as recruitability.
 
Yes, cheating exists and sometimes is rewarded. But more often than not, it's the last gasp of the desperate to try and hold onto their jobs. For every cheating winner, there are 10 cheating losers. It's also a convenient yet lazy excuse of an accusation to be levied by losers towards perennial winners. Duke is a prime target for this due to their 3 decades plus success under Coach K. Is Duke cheating? I have never seen a whiff of impropriety surrounding Duke. Does Jay Wright cheat @ Nova? How about Beilein or Ryan or Stevens or Matta or Few? These are all teams that have made or won the NCAA Championship the past decade or so. and perennially compete @ a high level. There are several other coaches and schools through that time which have built winning programs and don't cheat. Winning and cheating are not mutually exclusive, nor does cheating guarantee winning (see all the morons who were caught up in the recent FBI probes).

Proposing that hiring a known cheat in hopes that he will cheat AND win for us a cure for our basketball ills is a non sequitur, and quite frankly we are better than that.
If you haven’t heard a whiff on duke you are hiding it from yourself.
 
What about the former Cavs coach Blatt. I’d like to see what Holberg could do with IU’s resources.
 
Forget Pitino, maybe Joe B Hall or Eddie Sutton will come out of retirement if we're now filtering our choices by cheating.
 
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I agree it's not an ideal hire. Still, this program has hit a point over the last 20 years, that perhaps it's time to do away with ideals. UNC, Kansas, Duke, Kentucky and so on do not care about "doing things the right way". No they care about winning...recruits, media, fans they don't care either. Just an old guard of "holier than thou" Hoosiers. It's not 1987 anymore. The American culture has changed & it may be time Hoosiers change as well. Cheating is not looked at the way it used to be. It just gets swept under the rug when the next big story breaks. There are two groups of teams in the NCAA: cheaters & losers. Right now we are the latter.
The basic problem is that we pay big money to lose, maybe the money is in consideration of cleanliness, but Crean had plenty of scandals, didn't win, and just makes us look stupid trying to pretend its Hickory High and not just D1 BBall reality
 
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Do you really want these mentors or role models for these young men? It's not about" high Horse". it's about credibility. Those two bring none of it to a program. Sampson is a better human being than Pitino though.Give Archie at least a total of four years to get his team in place.If he doesn't succeed by then. Fire him and Glass.Hire Randy Wittman as AD and get a fiery coach who is not afraid to sit a "star' on the bench.Toughness is a need in the coach as well as recruitability.
If I had to go that route, I'd rather go with Pearl.
We should have gotten Chris Mack, major screw up by the Clown Glass.
 
I'd rather lose every game than bring back Sampson or hire a sleazeball like RP. You may not have any ethics but I do.

Your head is clearly buried.

If your ethics are so high I recommend you stop following college athletics, ethics currently have no place there.
 
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Your head is clearly buried.

If your ethics are so high I recommend you stop following college athletics, ethics currently have no place there.

I'm not so naive to not see what's going on in college sports today but that doesn't mean that , unlike yourself, that I want to see IU to cheat just to win a basketball game. That's not what IU represents and if it ever does then I will no longer follow IU sports. If my ethics bother you, so be it. There's a lot more important things in life than winning an athletic it event at all costs.

I have enjoyed IU basketball for over 60 years, have had several family members that were involved in IU athletics, including basketball and football. I enjoy watching them win as much as anyone else, and don't like to see them lose. But whether they win or lose it doesn't affect my life one way or another, ti will continue to go on. To see people get so worked up over an athletic event that they had no part in is absolutely beyond my comprehension.

Hope you are having a great day because I am, no matter what you say.
 
In a business filled with scummy people, Rick Pitino makes a lot of those scumbags look like saints. No f'n way.
 
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