Reality.
- Thread starter Bob Sienicki
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How has your definition of insanity been working out with Matt? Losing to the Mean Green in the Round of 64 in year 16. Congrats! That got old at IU after year 5-6 with Crean. If IU wanted Painter results, they would have kept Crean. Go rationalize Matt on your own board.
LOL @ Purdue fans over here talking shit after their team choked against a #13 seed.
They are literally trying to sell Crean results to IU fans. If PU wants to keep Crean results around for 50 years, more power to them. I don't necessarily see why this rationalization should be on an IU board, though.
I think the stress of not having a coach has you confused. Not sure how Painter's record, or Archie's for that matter, correlate to Hazell's record such that it would justify firing Archie or not tolerating Painter.
That's some serious pretzel logic, pal. And some mighty strong weed.
Stay on topic, no need to attack me. You agree that Hazell should have been fired, yet don't understand why IU fired Archie? That is an irrational double standard, and it is certainly no foundation for the argument you are making in this thread.
You are the one that is trying to rationalize Crean results after 16 years. Good for you, do it elsewhere.
Well, with your ability to accurately predict the future, no doubt Dolson should consult you, huh?
I only have 16 years of evidence, Bob! How many times does Lucy have to yank the football before you can kick it before you catch on? You brought up the definition of insanity!
Better not get too close to traffic with your short-sightedness.
Purdue was picked like 9th or 10th in the B1G this year - with no ncaa tournament hope - and had one of the youngest teams, experience-wise, in the entire ncaa, especially with just the #34 recruiting class (#6 in the B1G). So to have CMP coach them to a 4th place finish in the B1G, and even go to the ncaa tournament, beat favored IU, OSU, and MSU twice during the season - um, yeah. I'll take that. lol
But of course, you wouldn't. So better wait for the light before crossing.
If you cannot see the difference between Archie's track record and Hazell's, then I cannot help you. Better find a new mood ring.
Personal attacks are the lowest form of debate, yet you keep making them. Up your debate game.
If IU was good with Crean results, they would have kept him around. If PU is good with Crean results, more power to you.
Look, I'd love to stay and debate, but...
1) the wife wants me to be productive today,
2) despite several reasonable fans on here, I apparently am raising the BP in some of your more excitable fans, and
3) I just don't give a sh!t about all of your tender sensibilities.
Have a nice day!
1) the wife wants me to be productive today,
2) despite several reasonable fans on here, I apparently am raising the BP in some of your more excitable fans, and
3) I just don't give a sh!t about all of your tender sensibilities.
Have a nice day!
Except they aren’t the same results at all. Crean has missed the tournament more than he’s made it in his coaching career. In fact Painter has as many appearances in his 17 years (13) as crean and Archie have in their 31 combined years coaching. What makes that even sadder is the fact that 9 of those 13 appearances were with their previous schools.
Maybe all you’re really proving with your constant bragging of creans achievements is that a school like Marquette is now a better basketball destination for coaches than IU. I mean they have gone to about twice as many tournaments as IU has since you guys took crean from them.
As in the last time somebody gave a shit about Purdue basketball? Probably.
Anyone can claim high standards, but results really do matter. Where are IUs FFs in the past 16 yrs? It’s great that you wouldn’t accept those results and that may be part of the issue. As far as crapping the bed, you do have to MAKE the tournament to risk being upset.
To all of you PUkes spending your Saturday on the IU bball board, thanks for your obsess.... oops, concern for the well -being of our program. Of course you have nothing else to do this weekend. Your team is out of the tournament early, as usual. But by all means, make yourselves feel superior because you don't suck quite as bad as IU - which is the only thing that matters to you.
Way to strive for excellence.
Where are PU's FF's in the past 40+ years? Once again, if IU wanted Crean results, they would have kept Crean around. If PU wants Crean-lite results, more power to them. Losing to the Mean Green in year 16, lol.
I don't see how the expectations of the IU fan base exceed that of other schools or that it is anymore of a fishbowl. I do, however, think that the level of frustration at IU presently exceeds that of most other schools. I would argue that with parity in programs, the transfer portal, etc. coaches don't necessarily have to change jobs to succeed, either on the court or financially.
I respect your opinion, but disagree. Few are expecting us to contend for B10 titles or “reverse” the pu trend, if by that u mean beat them more than they beat us. I’d say both r or should he expectations long term, but not in The 4 yearish window u describe. People act like IU fans are some crazy impatient lot, but the reality is at other non b-ball schools, fans would’ve just stopped caring and attending and at real b-ball schools heads would roll, maybe sooner. Archie, NEVER went to the tourney; NEVER beat PU, barely ever beat Rutgers. And yet most accepted he’d be here another year and were shocked when dolson actually took action. If he’d done a couple of those just a couple times, he’d still be safely here and fans might he grumbling, but they’d accept it.
everyone can say IU fans are the problem, but I say they are the only hope I have left.
They are IU fans they don't know anything about Einstein
This is a myth; do not accept this Purdue revisionist history. Piggy Lambert did not "turn down" the "invitation". At that time, there was no automatic bid for the conference champion, and there was no invitation extended to Purdue.
A committee from each region selected a team to represent that region. The committee selected IU - they had beaten Purdue twice that season.
IU's NCAA titles were won on the court. Only Purdue's Helms "title" belongs in quotes.
I put the current status of IU basketball squarely on the back of Myles Brand. BK should have retired on his terms with a coaching prospect in the waiting. This is what happens when academia thinks they know how to run an athletic program. Should have hired Downing or Reynolds as AD. Things may have turned out much better.
This is an odd stance when half the posters here were defending Archie by using Belein and coach K’s records at Michigan and Duke for why it was okay Archie hadn’t reached these lofty goals y’all have as fans. Quite the 180 y’all have taken.
Wow, you are not even close. IU is the 5th wealthiest college program. That’s I right 5th. We also have more higher ranked player than most larger states and we(IU) are the state school. We have won 2 BiG ten championships in the last 7 years and have some of the best facilities in the nation. But you go ahead and think what you think Troll.
Why are you on our board you purdue puke? Because whether we talk anything or not we sure as hell don’t t care what some Purdue loser has to say. So stfu and go to your own board. Jerk!
I was wrong. Point remains that Syracuse has had 45 years of continuity and quality basketball. No drama. No TD olving door. No chaos. Just an amazing period of consistently good basketball. Boeheim has NEVER had a losing season in 45 years.
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No real progress? Davis went to a FF. Sampson had them in the top 10 in year 2. Crean won two B10 titles and had a S16 in 4 (from zero) and #1 seed by 5. Top five (or higher) B10 recruiting classes every year. Archie was a bust. But okay, no signs of potential. 🙄
Good riddance to them.
I enjoy the fact this team is being replaced more than being rebuilt
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