Question: Vaccinations for Children

[IUclover]

What are your thoughts on vaccinations for children? RFK Jr. & Co. appears to be pushing "federal drug regulators to revoke approval for the polio and hepatitis B vaccines and block distribution of 13 other critical vaccines."

If you had the choice, would you choose not to have your child or grandchildren given the required or recommended vaccinations? Like MMR and polio vaccines? Do you agree with RFK Jr. and would you trust his "research" and findings?

I'm just curious.

RFK Jr key adviser petitioned regulators to revoke approval of polio vaccine

Aaron Siri is helping Trump’s health secretary pick to select top jobs despite long history of attacking vaccines

www.theguardian.com

 

[outside shooter]

The data is not at all confusing.

Here's one simple to understand presentation. Over a half MILLION measles cases annually, down to 13.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2022/05/effective-vaccines-us-chart/

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

What are your thoughts on vaccinations for children? RFK Jr. & Co. appears to be pushing "federal drug regulators to revoke approval for the polio and hepatitis B vaccines and block distribution of 13 other critical vaccines."

If you had the choice, would you choose not to have your child or grandchildren given the required or recommended vaccinations? Like MMR and polio vaccines? Do you agree with RFK Jr. and would you trust his "research" and findings?

I'm just curious.

RFK Jr key adviser petitioned regulators to revoke approval of polio vaccine

Aaron Siri is helping Trump’s health secretary pick to select top jobs despite long history of attacking vaccines

www.theguardian.com

His dad and uncle died from a "shot".

Too soon? C'mon...you were all thinking it.

 

[UncleMark]

The data is not at all confusing.

Here's one simple to understand presentation. Over a half MILLION measles cases annually, down to 13.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2022/05/effective-vaccines-us-chart/

So the vaccine DOESN'T work. Those 13 cases prove it.

 

[Bowlmania]

What are your thoughts on vaccinations for children? RFK Jr. & Co. appears to be pushing "federal drug regulators to revoke approval for the polio and hepatitis B vaccines and block distribution of 13 other critical vaccines."

If you had the choice, would you choose not to have your child or grandchildren given the required or recommended vaccinations? Like MMR and polio vaccines? Do you agree with RFK Jr. and would you trust his "research" and findings?

I'm just curious.

RFK Jr key adviser petitioned regulators to revoke approval of polio vaccine

Aaron Siri is helping Trump’s health secretary pick to select top jobs despite long history of attacking vaccines

www.theguardian.com

Polio? Fvck yeah! Let's bring that debilitating, devastating disease.

Jonas who?

 

[TyWebbIU]

So the vaccine DOESN'T work. Those 13 cases prove it.

Would you have your baby take the Covid Vax at 6 months of age? It’s recommended by CDC.

 

[IUclover]

Would you have your baby take the Covid Vax at 6 months of age? It’s recommended by CDC.

What about the other vaccines? Yay or nay?

 

[outside shooter]

Famous smallpox twin brothers.

The twin on the right received proper vaccination at a younger age, while the twin at the left was not vaccinated and therefore became ill with smallpox.

Note that the twin on the right actually "got smallpox", as indicated by the minor scarring in his skin. The vaccine did not prevent infection. It merely lessened severity and transmissibility to such an incredible extent that recovery was fast and, once that smallpox vaccination rates were very high (>95%), the disease was eradicated from Earth.

The way to improve our health care system is not to dismantle the aspects of it that work BEST.

yes, the pic is genuine

FACT CHECK: Two Boys — One Vaccinated, One Not — Exposed to Smallpox?

In the early 1900s, Allan Warner documented several cases of smallpox and the effects of vaccinations.

www.snopes.com

 

[TyWebbIU]

What about the other vaccines? Yay or nay?

I would have to do heavy research. Most likely some, but not all recommended vaccines. Definitely not the Covid vax.

 

[TyWebbIU]

What are your thoughts on vaccinations for children? RFK Jr. & Co. appears to be pushing "federal drug regulators to revoke approval for the polio and hepatitis B vaccines and block distribution of 13 other critical vaccines."

If you had the choice, would you choose not to have your child or grandchildren given the required or recommended vaccinations? Like MMR and polio vaccines? Do you agree with RFK Jr. and would you trust his "research" and findings?

I'm just curious.

RFK Jr key adviser petitioned regulators to revoke approval of polio vaccine

Aaron Siri is helping Trump’s health secretary pick to select top jobs despite long history of attacking vaccines

www.theguardian.com

RFKjr IS NOT anti vax.

 

[larsIU]

I would have to do heavy research. Most likely some, but not all recommended vaccines. Definitely not the Covid vax.

Do you already have kids? Were they vaxxed. Asking honestly, no agenda.

 

[IUclover]

RFKjr IS NOT anti vax.

Never said he was. Attempting to block distribution just seems so weird though.

He’s also not a doctor or expert on vaccines, but here we are.

 

[TyWebbIU]

Never said he was. Attempting to block distribution just seems so weird though.

He’s also not a doctor or expert on vaccines, but here we are.

RFKjr is not attempting to block distribution. This is lies.

 

[outside shooter]

RFKjr IS NOT anti vax.

Again and again, Kennedy has made his open opposition to vaccines clear.

In July, Kennedy said in a podcast interview that “There’s no vaccine that is safe and effective”

In a 2023 interview with Fox News, RFK claimed that “autism comes from vaccines"

He founded an openly antivaccine group called "Children's Health Defense" which cranked out so much vaccine misinformation that Google took them off their platform (RFK sued and lost).

He has even compared vaccinations to the Holocaust!

There are dozens of clips of him spouting antivaccine rhetoric, regardless of what he is saying now.

 

[TyWebbIU]

Do you already have kids? Were they vaxxed. Asking honestly, no agenda.

Yes. But things have changed for me.

 

[IUclover]

RFKjr is not attempting to block distribution. This is lies.

Just a coincidence that his personal lawyer filed a petition to block distribution and his personal lawyer also represents a group who supports the petition.

Nothing to see here. Got it.

 

[dr.jb]

What about the other vaccines? Yay or nay?

nay to the covid

yay to the others

 

[TyWebbIU]

Just a coincidence that his personal lawyer filed a petition to block distribution and his personal lawyer also represents a group who supports the petition.

Nothing to see here. Got it.

Maybe we should just take him at his word?

 

[TyWebbIU]

Just a coincidence that his personal lawyer filed a petition to block distribution and his personal lawyer also represents a group who supports the petition.

Nothing to see here. Got it.

 

[outside shooter]

Maybe we should just take him at his word?

His word, WHEN?

His word now is different than his word a few months ago, his word last year, the year before, the year before that, etc.

 

[TyWebbIU]

Just a coincidence that his personal lawyer filed a petition to block distribution and his personal lawyer also represents a group who supports the petition.

Nothing to see here. Got it.

 

[NPT]

Maybe we should just take him at his word?

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That may be but there is no medicine or vaccine that is 100% safe. We all take reasonable chances every day we live. Any time you drive somewhere you're taking a chance.... that's just life.

 

[TyWebbIU]

That may be but there is no medicine or vaccine that is 100% safe. We all take reasonable chances every day we live. Any time you drive somewhere you're taking a chance.... that's just life.

And?

 

[outside shooter]

Make hospitals GREAT again!

Iron lung ward for polio patients

 

[outside shooter]

And?

Simple. It is useless to debate only one side of a risk/reward equation.

If a vaccination has a measurable deleterious effect, but also spares you from other much more serious deleterious effects that happen at a far greater frequency, the risk/reward analysis demands that you favor the vaccination.

 

[T.M.P.]

Again and again, Kennedy has made his open opposition to vaccines clear.

In July, Kennedy said in a podcast interview that “There’s no vaccine that is safe and effective”

In a 2023 interview with Fox News, RFK claimed that “autism comes from vaccines"

He founded an openly antivaccine group called "Children's Health Defense" which cranked out so much vaccine misinformation that Google took them off their platform (RFK sued and lost).

He has even compared vaccinations to the Holocaust!

There are dozens of clips of him spouting antivaccine rhetoric, regardless of what he is saying now.

Heroin is much safer.

Signed,

RFK's Brain Worm.

 

[NPT]

And?

Some people act like a vaccine has to be 100% safe but as you know we take reasonable chances every day.

 

[UncleMark]

If a vaccination has a measurable deleterious effect, but also spares you from other much more serious deleterious effects that happen at a far greater frequency, the risk/reward analysis demands that you favor the vaccination.

Shooter, this is not on topic for this thread but...

I heard a brief blurb on NPR yesterday about a study that found that cancers stopped growing or at least slowed in Covid patients. Said that they were looking at what, if any, immune system factors may have been involved. Do you have any insight on this?

 

[TyWebbIU]

Some people act like a vaccine has to be 100% safe but as you know we take reasonable chances every day.

What people? Seems you are just typing words.

 

[outside shooter]

Mark, I am not familiar with that study and I am not seeing it with a google news search.

It's possible that, if your body makes antibodies to an amino acid sequence within the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, those antibodies might also attack an amino acid sequence in a certain type of cancer cell that happens to be both important for tumor growth and (by coincidence) similar to the amino acid sequence within the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.

It is probably specific to a certain cancer cell type or certain stage in cancer growth. Just an educated guess though.

 

[outside shooter]

What people?

 

[TyWebbIU]

Wrong again. Your narrative is complete BS. That isn’t, at all, what RFK jr is about or believes. You guys are hopeless.