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Punks in MAGA hats

The punks should apologize for their selves, eh?
Expulsion from school would be harsh, but a teaching moment for them.
 

As always, it's good to be white and wealthy in the US, where you can make youthful indiscretions that don't get you beat up, arrested or killed. Humility, if it comes at all for these kids, generally comes later after a little more life experience. But, he'll always have this video to remind him what a douche he was once upon a time.

 
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It must have been frightening to be surrounded by a bunch of laughing goofball 16 year old white kids in broad daylight with media cameras rolling. Oh the horror!

Don't forget he was Vietnam Vet. I can't imagine the horror he felt, lol. Especially when the video shows him inserting himself into a fight. Funny how the whole video of the KY kids being called homophobic and racial slurs is just now being revealed. Dumb teenagers being attacked and reacting inappropriately being totally ignored by the media is a total shock. Doesn't fit the narrative at all. This was an example of a whole lot of people acting like a-holes and the media deciding based on their agenda who the real bad guy was. I love the fact that it's been reported that one of the members of another group used the F word to towards the boys and somehow that's not important. If one of the boys had used the F word he'd be on social media death row by now. I've said this for years, for all the money we spend of education, we are the dumbest country on the planet and it's not close.
 
Geezus, do you expect people to actually wait to get all the facts and watch the whole video before they react? That requires rational and intelligent people without agendas.

It really is amazing to see that groups of people still refuse to see what’s really going on in this country and that the media is trying to push an agenda.
 
Call me naive but what's most disappointing to me is all the media outlets who cry about the first amendment and act like they are the last line of defense for the American people against the evils of the world when in reality they are as corrupt as anyone. They all have agendas, right and left, but at the end of the day, they are about profits, not protecting the American people. The first amendment protected the press not to insure the press made a profit but so the press could protect people. And they don't do that anymore.
 
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Call me naive but what's most disappointing to me is all the media outlets who cry about the first amendment and act like they are the last line of defense for the American people against the evils of the world when in reality they are as corrupt as anyone. They all have agendas, right and left, but at the end of the day, they are about profits, not protecting the American people. The first amendment protected the press not to insure the press made a profit but so the press could protect people. And they don't do that anymore.


I've never been one to go after the "media" at all, but this is maybe the most irresponsible example of journalism I can really recall. The fktards in Congress that raced to tweet out their disgust is just as bad, but nobody expects much of them.
 
With hindsight, I regret that I didn't just post some nipples.
The only video I saw at the time I posted appeared to show a punk fvcking with a 75 year old native American. If other videos suggest other circumstances occurred, I wish I had posted tits instead.:D
 
With hindsight, I regret that I didn't just post some nipples.
The only video I saw at the time I posted appeared to show a punk fvcking with a 75 year old native American. If other videos suggest other circumstances occurred, I wish I had posted tits instead.:D
Which is exactly why political based stuff belongs on the Watercooler...not the AOTF.
 
"very fine people on both sides"
Ahh...now I know why you posted this. You were commenting on the entirety of the situation. Not just the kids in the maga hats, but the protesters taunting the kids and others as well as the native Americans that inserted themselves in between the two groups...

Uh huh...
 
Geezus, do you expect people to actually wait to get all the facts and watch the whole video before they react? That requires rational and intelligent people without agendas.

The whole (new) video is supposed to be over an hour long, and from reading the recap, the "new" evidence is that the kids were taunted by an entirely separate group... not the Native Americans who seem to be peaceful enough. I still don't see any rationalization for the smug kid(s) acting as they were towards the Indians. Care to enlighten me?
 
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The whole (new) video is supposed to be over an hour long, and from reading the recap, the "new" evidence is that the kids were taunted by an entirely separate group... not the Native Americans who seem to be peaceful enough. I still don't see any rationalization for the smug kid(s) acting as they were towards the Indians. Care to enlighten me?

Not sure how I could enlighten you since I've never tried to rationalize what the kids did. My quote from earlier:

" This was an example of a whole lot of people acting like a-holes and the media deciding based on their agenda who the real bad guy was"

The issue is there were multiple groups that acted inappropriately, including the Indians IMO. They inserted themselves into an argument they had no business being apart of. But the media decided to paint the picture of racist teenagers attacking an Indian group when that's not really what happened. I envision every liberal media outlet cumming all over themselves when they saw a white boy with a MAGA hat standing in front of that Indian. They didn't even try to be unbiased and fair about this. And that's my problem with it.
 
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With hindsight, I regret that I didn't just post some nipples.
The only video I saw at the time I posted appeared to show a punk fvcking with a 75 year old native American. If other videos suggest other circumstances occurred, I wish I had posted tits instead.:D

You will never make it as a partisan.
Admitting even potential mistakes is verboten.

Go to the Water Cooler.
Learn how to be political.

“Those kids are racist anti-abortion Trumptards” is the only acceptable position any “true fan” can ever voice.

If you are gonna let facts and reason and respect for others interfere with your politics, you are worse than ... [fill in name of despicable person].

NO FREE PASS!

Delete your account.
 
The whole (new) video is supposed to be over an hour long, and from reading the recap, the "new" evidence is that the kids were taunted by an entirely separate group... not the Native Americans who seem to be peaceful enough. I still don't see any rationalization for the smug kid(s) acting as they were towards the Indians. Care to enlighten me?

Here’s the statement from the kid:

“I am providing this factual account of what happened on Friday afternoon at the Lincoln Memorial to correct misinformation and outright lies being spread about my family and me.

I am the student in the video who was confronted by the Native American protestor. I arrived at the Lincoln Memorial at 4:30 p.m. I was told to be there by 5:30 p.m., when our busses were due to leave Washington for the trip back to Kentucky. We had been attending the March for Life rally, and then had split up into small groups to do sightseeing.

When we arrived, we noticed four African American protestors who were also on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. I am not sure what they were protesting, and I did not interact with them. I did hear them direct derogatory insults at our school group.

The protestors said hateful things. They called us “racists,” “bigots,” “white crackers,” “f*****s,” and “incest kids.” They also taunted an African American student from my school by telling him that we would “harvest his organs.” I have no idea what that insult means, but it was startling to hear.

Because we were being loudly attacked and taunted in public, a student in our group asked one of our teacher chaperones for permission to begin our school spirit chants to counter the hateful things that were being shouted at our group. The chants are commonly used at sporting events. They are all positive in nature and sound like what you would hear at any high school. Our chaperone gave us permission to use our school chants. We would not have done that without obtaining permission from the adults in charge of our group.

At no time did I hear any student chant anything other than the school spirit chants. I did not witness or hear any students chant “build that wall” or anything hateful or racist at any time. Assertions to the contrary are simply false. Our chants were loud because we wanted to drown out the hateful comments that were being shouted at us by the protestors.

After a few minutes of chanting, the Native American protestors, who I hadn’t previously noticed, approached our group. The Native American protestors had drums and were accompanied by at least one person with a camera.

The protestor everyone has seen in the video began playing his drum as he waded into the crowd, which parted for him. I did not see anyone try to block his path. He locked eyes with me and approached me, coming within inches of my face. He played his drum the entire time he was in my face.

I never interacted with this protestor. I did not speak to him. I did not make any hand gestures or other aggressive moves. To be honest, I was startled and confused as to why he had approached me. We had already been yelled at by another group of protestors, and when the second group approached I was worried that a situation was getting out of control where adults were attempting to provoke teenagers.

I believed that by remaining motionless and calm, I was helping to diffuse the situation. I realized everyone had cameras and that perhaps a group of adults was trying to provoke a group of teenagers into a larger conflict. I said a silent prayer that the situation would not get out of hand.

During the period of the drumming, a member of the protestor’s entourage began yelling at a fellow student that we “stole our land” and that we should “go back to Europe.” I heard one of my fellow students begin to respond. I motioned to my classmate and tried to get him to stop engaging with the protestor, as I was still in the mindset that we needed to calm down tensions.

I never felt like I was blocking the Native American protestor. He did not make any attempt to go around me. It was clear to me that he had singled me out for a confrontation, although I am not sure why.

The engagement ended when one of our teachers told me the busses had arrived and it was time to go. I obeyed my teacher and simply walked to the busses. At that moment, I thought I had diffused the situation by remaining calm, and I was thankful nothing physical had occurred.

I never understood why either of the two groups of protestors were engaging with us, or exactly what they were protesting at the Lincoln Memorial. We were simply there to meet a bus, not become central players in a media spectacle. This is the first time in my life I’ve ever encountered any sort of public protest, let alone this kind of confrontation or demonstration.

I was not intentionally making faces at the protestor. I did smile at one point because I wanted him to know that I was not going to become angry, intimidated or be provoked into a larger confrontation. I am a faithful Christian and practicing Catholic, and I always try to live up to the ideals my faith teaches me – to remain respectful of others, and to take no action that would lead to conflict or violence.

I harbor no ill will for this person. I respect this person’s right to protest and engage in free speech activities, and I support his chanting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial any day of the week. I believe he should re-think his tactics of invading the personal space of others, but that is his choice to make.

I am being called every name in the book, including a racist, and I will not stand for this mob-like character assassination of my family’s name. My parents were not on the trip, and I strive to represent my family in a respectful way in all public settings.

I have received physical and death threats via social media, as well as hateful insults. One person threatened to harm me at school, and one person claims to live in my neighborhood. My parents are receiving death and professional threats because of the social media mob that has formed over this issue.

I love my school, my teachers and my classmates. I work hard to achieve good grades and to participate in several extracurricular activities. I am mortified that so many people have come to believe something that did not happen – that students from my school were chanting or acting in a racist fashion toward African Americans or Native Americans. I did not do that, do not have hateful feelings in my heart, and did not witness any of my classmates doing that.

I cannot speak for everyone, only for myself. But I can tell you my experience with Covington Catholic is that students are respectful of all races and cultures. We also support everyone’s right to free speech.

I am not going to comment on the words or account of Mr. Phillips, as I don’t know him and would not presume to know what is in his heart or mind. Nor am I going to comment further on the other protestors, as I don’t know their hearts or minds, either.

I have read that Mr. Phillips is a veteran of the United States Marines. I thank him for his service and am grateful to anyone who puts on the uniform to defend our nation. If anyone has earned the right to speak freely, it is a U.S. Marine veteran.

I can only speak for myself and what I observed and felt at the time. But I would caution everyone passing judgement based on a few seconds of video to watch the longer video clips that are on the internet, as they show a much different story than is being portrayed by people with agendas.

I provided this account of events to the Diocese of Covington so they may know exactly what happened, and I stand ready and willing to cooperate with any investigation they are conducting.”
 
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The whole (new) video is supposed to be over an hour long, and from reading the recap, the "new" evidence is that the kids were taunted by an entirely separate group... not the Native Americans who seem to be peaceful enough. I still don't see any rationalization for the smug kid(s) acting as they were towards the Indians. Care to enlighten me?

A guy walks up to a kid a beats a drum inches from his face and all the kid does is smile and the kid is the problem? Wow.
 
I've never been one to go after the "media" at all, but this is maybe the most irresponsible example of journalism I can really recall. The fktards in Congress that raced to tweet out their disgust is just as bad, but nobody expects much of them.
Why anyone takes what they see on Facebook/YouTube/Twitter at face value is beyond me.
 
A guy walks up to a kid a beats a drum inches from his face and all the kid does is smile and the kid is the problem? Wow.

Yeah, the kids were a problem, imo. Read the kids account above and watch the video. Those 2 accounts don't align... unless the "school chants and cheers" the kids were doing to try and "diffuse" the situation are the tomahawk chop and indian chanting, which seems unlikely since it appears their school nickname is the Colonels. If not, then 1) he's lying in his explanation and 2) the kids were mocking the Indian group. Also, he didn't smile at him once, he was smiling with that smirk on his face almost the entire time, which I think was what prompted the drummer to stop and "address" him. Was he right? Nope. But of the 3 groups there, I believe they were the only ones who had a permit to be assembling there, so they acknowledged they might be chanting/protesting, etc... Oh, and lastly, the kid chose to wear a MAGA hat, which already conveys a particular message. If he didn't want to "incite" anything, another poor choice.
 
This is a Trumptard free zone ... you degenerate fact free slack jawed yokels need to leave promptly.
 
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Yeah, the kids were a problem, imo. Read the kids account above and watch the video. Those 2 accounts don't align... unless the "school chants and cheers" the kids were doing to try and "diffuse" the situation are the tomahawk chop and indian chanting, which seems unlikely since it appears their school nickname is the Colonels. If not, then 1) he's lying in his explanation and 2) the kids were mocking the Indian group. Also, he didn't smile at him once, he was smiling with that smirk on his face almost the entire time, which I think was what prompted the drummer to stop and "address" him. Was he right? Nope. But of the 3 groups there, I believe they were the only ones who had a permit to be assembling there, so they acknowledged they might be chanting/protesting, etc... Oh, and lastly, the kid chose to wear a MAGA hat, which already conveys a particular message. If he didn't want to "incite" anything, another poor choice.

You just showed your real problem with the kids in your last sentence. They wear Trump hats.
 
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Aw look another snowflake.

Oh, another witless parrot who can't think for himself and can only repeat Russian propaganda phrases made for racist backwards thinking malcontent incels and rubes.

Just because you can't please a pussy and women laugh at you is no reason to turn into a fking Nazi and join a cult, ya know .. go buy a prostitute like your orange skinned idol did.
 
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