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Don't, VPM. Just don't. Cruz (and his sweet Daddy) attended a rally for a dirtbag who supports shooting homosexuals. Yes, you read that correctly. That's just SO Christian, isn't it? This is why so many people hate so called "Christians". They are so far removed from Christ's teachings it's laughable. They should be called Leviticans. Ted Cruz is a bigoted, moronic, piece of shit.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/post_10496_b_8544540.html
I was unaware of this story. So thanks for answering why you believe Cruz is dangerous. What did Cruz say about this pastor named Swanson? Is attending an event the exact same thing as endorsing his view? I am sure we can find Hillary or Bernie in attendance at events where you might say the same thing. Again, thanks for giving your reasons. You are a stand up guy.
 
Well, Dug gave you a pretty good example. He (and his dad, Pastor Cruz) showed support of a man who literally (not as a joke!) proposed that homosexuality should be punished by death.

That kind of mindset is dangerous to America. And to humanity.
Does Doug have a hand in your back working your jaws? Can you think of any other reasons why Cruz is bad for America? Also has Cruz ever come out and said, "it's such a good idea and I would work towards doing that in the whole USA".
 
Does Doug have a hand in your back working your jaws? Can you think of any other reasons why Cruz is bad for America? Also has Cruz ever come out and said, "it's such a good idea and I would work towards doing that in the whole USA".
He shouldn't have to for that to scare you away. Just being there (shame on Huckabee and Jindal, too) should be enough. Any decent human being should have told that pastor to go stuff himself in a trash can rather than show up at his event.
 
You disappoint me Goat. You can't even intellectually answer my question. So again, what is it that makes Cruz so dangerous. Be specific.
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Here you go example #1. Once you have defended this, I will go to example #2:



If Rafael Cruz gets elected I will become religious and pray all day every day for his death. It would be for the good of the country.
 
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I was unaware of this story. So thanks for answering why you believe Cruz is dangerous. What did Cruz say about this pastor named Swanson? Is attending an event the exact same thing as endorsing his view? I am sure we can find Hillary or Bernie in attendance at events where you might say the same thing. Again, thanks for giving your reasons. You are a stand up guy.
Read up on it yourself. He and daddy sure didn't distance themselves from it. Why don't you wade into the subject of homosexuality, Van? Please share your keen insight into Christ's sermons on this subject. And yet, idiots like Cruz and that other sociopath, pass themselves off as promoting Jesus Christ. It's disgusting and if Christ were here, he'd be whipping their asses like he did the money changers in the Temple. That is after he stopped vomiting due to their bastardization of his teachings.
EDIT: @VanPastorMan You asked and I replied. I would hope that you could sack up and do likewise for my question to you.
 
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$1 billion?

Nope. Some things are more important than money.

Goat your disdain for the man is clouding your judgement. Imagine the good you could do for the world by spending that money thusly:
  1. to ease your conscience, spend $100M of it to discredit Cruz
  2. $100M or whatever it takes to get Rivals to give us thread view back. This format sucks.
  3. $100M on hookers and blow
  4. $100M cash to Heff to get him to put the naked chicks back in Playboy
  5. whatever TTT's buyout is, pay it.
  6. $100M on DESTINY
  7. Actually, let's move #5 up to #2, and #6 up to #3, bumping the others down. We wouldn't want the hookers and blow to distract you from your most important work.
  8. $100M to endow FB salaries for the next 10 years. Let's get quality assistant coaches up in here.
  9. $1M on copies of McNutt's book so he can retire and start full-time journaling here about his golf adventures and ghey 3-ways.
  10. $10K each in bitcoin on the deep web for hits on shitter and edub
  11. you can spend the rest on whatever you want if you're still alive after #3
 
Goat your disdain for the man is clouding your judgement. Imagine the good you could do for the world by spending that money thusly:
  1. to ease your conscience, spend $100M of it to discredit Cruz
  2. $100M or whatever it takes to get Rivals to give us thread view back. This format sucks.
  3. $100M on hookers and blow
  4. $100M cash to Heff to get him to put the naked chicks back in Playboy
  5. whatever TTT's buyout is, pay it.
  6. $100M on DESTINY
  7. Actually, let's move #5 up to #2, and #6 up to #3, bumping the others down. We wouldn't want the hookers and blow to distract you from your most important work.
  8. $100M to endow FB salaries for the next 10 years. Let's get quality assistant coaches up in here.
  9. $1M on copies of McNutt's book so he can retire and start full-time journaling here about his golf adventures and ghey 3-ways.
  10. $10K each in bitcoin on the deep web for hits on shitter and edub
  11. you can spend the rest on whatever you want if you're still alive after #3
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He shouldn't have to for that to scare you away. Just being there (shame on Huckabee and Jindal, too) should be enough. Any decent human being should have told that pastor to go stuff himself in a trash can rather than show up at his event.
Goat, be honest have you ever seen liberals at places where you think they should not have been? Barack Obama spent years at Rev Wright's church and Wright has said some really terrible things about America, white people etc. I remember the press saying, "Obama was there but he did not share in Wright's views". Why would Obama get a pass on this and you won't give one to Cruz? I have not heard of this pastor who supposedly said gays should be killed. Maybe I will do some investigation to make sure he really said that and it wasn't a spin job.
 
Van Pastor Man:

1)Ted Cruz has voted against every single bill to help veterans. Every one, that is, if he was even there to vote. I will let you get off your own lazy ass and do that research.

2) Cruz's views directly contradict your alleged "Christian values." Stuff like this is why I call you a charlatan. No one who claims to love Jesus could vote for Ted Cruz, because he is anti-Christian values. Period. So either Cruz is a false Christian or you are.
 
Furthermore, @VanPastorMan if you think Obama is TRULY a liberal, you are fundamentally retarded. He is a war hawk, he's killed thousands with his drone strikes (including US citizens), he further destabilized the middle east, he's bailed out Wall Steet, he's trying to pass a trade bill that further screws over labor unions, he granted offshore drilling leases, I could go on and on and on.

Obama is further from liberalism than any Democratic President we have ever had. Hell, there are Republican Presidents who were more liberal than Barry "Bomb 'em" Obama.

The fact you STILL buy into the labels proves you are the "low information voter" that has ruined your party and turned into the shit show it currently is.
 
Goat, be honest have you ever seen liberals at places where you think they should not have been? Barack Obama spent years at Rev Wright's church and Wright has said some really terrible things about America, white people etc. I remember the press saying, "Obama was there but he did not share in Wright's views". Why would Obama get a pass on this and you won't give one to Cruz? I have not heard of this pastor who supposedly said gays should be killed. Maybe I will do some investigation to make sure he really said that and it wasn't a spin job.
Please. Pastors sometimes criticize the government. It happens. This man openly advocating killing gays. There is a big difference.
 
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I am voting for Trump because he will put liberals back in her place!
 
Goat, be honest have you ever seen liberals at places where you think they should not have been? Barack Obama spent years at Rev Wright's church and Wright has said some really terrible things about America, white people etc. I remember the press saying, "Obama was there but he did not share in Wright's views". Why would Obama get a pass on this and you won't give one to Cruz? I have not heard of this pastor who supposedly said gays should be killed. Maybe I will do some investigation to make sure he really said that and it wasn't a spin job.
And still....*crickets*.
 
I don't like any of those odds. The GOP nominee will almost certainly be Bush, so +450 might be a good bet. Sanders might be a good buy, too, since his odds are going to get shorter after the debates start and he wins the first two primaries. Rubio +1400 seems like good value.

Trump at any odds is just throwing money away. Zero chance he wins the nomination.
Looks like you should have used your basketball odds predicting program on this analysis. Bush a shoo in? Trump is throwing money away? At least your basketball program is close to .500 on the Big Ten games, as I recall.
 
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Just goes to show how different this Republican primary season has been. Bush spent north of $100 million of superpac money, and he's out before Super Tuesday, while Trump has not taken donations and he's on track to win the nomination. I'm all for insurgents to shake up, and thumb their nose at the establishment, but I honestly worry that America is at a place where Nazi Germany was, in the late 30's/40's. It's concerning when the same citizen is willing to back either Trump, or Bernie. I don't think either of those men(especially Bernie) has an evil heart like Hitler, but the possibility of America embracing a system similar to the Nazis, is there simmering under the surface.
 
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Did you really cross boards just to troll me?

Try harder.
Wasn't trying to be critical. I would have said the same about those two last fall and I'm intrigued by your basketball statistical analyses.

I remember watching one of Jeb Bush's early presentations and thinking he wasn't acting like his heart was in it.

As for Trump, well if he wins I can't imagine he'll get any legislation passed the first time he calls a member of Congress an "idiot" or "liar."
 
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Here you go example #1. Once you have defended this, I will go to example #2:



If Rafael Cruz gets elected I will become religious and pray all day every day for his death. It would be for the good of the country.
Here is a clip from one of Swanson's messages at the event in question.
He basically said what I said before. The Gospel of Christ needs to be preached before all homosexuals,adulterers,porn addicts etc. He said he was NOT in favor of our government killing homosexuals.
 
Wasn't trying to be critical. I would have said the same about those two last fall and I'm intrigued by your basketball statistical analyses.

I remember watching one of Jeb Bush's early presentations and thinking he wasn't acting like his heart was in it.

As for Trump, well if he wins I can't imagine he'll get any legislation passed the first time he calls a member of Congress an "idiot" or "liar."
Have you been reading my recent updates?

Not exactly a strong showing on my part. B1G is very unpredictable this year. A lot of teams are either falling apart or buckling down halfway through. Look at Wiscy and Iowa last night.

None of us should feel bad about not seeing Trump coming. No one did. No one imagined Republicans are actually that stupid.

He might be the first presidential candidate to lose all 50 states since...well, ever, I think.
 
Here is a clip from one of Swanson's messages at the event in question.
He basically said what I said before. The Gospel of Christ needs to be preached before all homosexuals,adulterers,porn addicts etc. He said he was NOT in favor of our government killing homosexuals.
I'm gonna ask you again to show me the "Gospel of Christ" regarding homosexuality. You're a Levitican. It's Old Testament. There is NOTHING Christlike about it. At all. Swanson is a hate monger who has suggested that homosexuals be shot. It's fact. I don't care if he said it at that particular rally or not. How is murdering people Christlike or Christian?
Yeah, this is the type of message that Christ preached.
http://www.towleroad.com/2015/11/kevin-swanson/
 
Have you been reading my recent updates?

Not exactly a strong showing on my part. B1G is very unpredictable this year. A lot of teams are either falling apart or buckling down halfway through. Look at Wiscy and Iowa last night.

None of us should feel bad about not seeing Trump coming. No one did. No one imagined Republicans are actually that stupid.

He might be the first presidential candidate to lose all 50 states since...well, ever, I think.


Haha...lose all 50 states? Uh no.
 
I'm gonna ask you again to show me the "Gospel of Christ" regarding homosexuality. You're a Levitican. It's Old Testament. There is NOTHING Christlike about it. At all. Swanson is a hate monger who has suggested that homosexuals be shot. It's fact. I don't care if he said it at that particular rally or not. How is murdering people Christlike or Christian?
Yeah, this is the type of message that Christ preached.
http://www.towleroad.com/2015/11/kevin-swanson/
Did you watch the video? He said he wanted for all sinners to have time to repent and be saved. I'm not sure what you mean by the term, "levitican". Are you saying that I want leviticus Law to be the law of the day? Of course I don't feel that way. I have said before that there is a distinction between Israel and the Church.
 
Did you watch the video? He said he wanted for all sinners to have time to repent and be saved. I'm not sure what you mean by the term, "levitican". Are you saying that I want leviticus Law to be the law of the day? Of course I don't feel that way. I have said before that there is a distinction between Israel and the Church.
"Have time" before what? Before being shot. Do you really understand how completely screwed up that is? I said post the scriptural quotes of Jesus pertaining to homosexuality. He spoke about A LOT of things. Surely he said something regarding homosexuality. When exactly did you choose to be attracted to women?
 
Did you watch the video? He said he wanted for all sinners to have time to repent and be saved. I'm not sure what you mean by the term, "levitican". Are you saying that I want leviticus Law to be the law of the day? Of course I don't feel that way. I have said before that there is a distinction between Israel and the Church.
LOL! Did you watch it? He was going out of his way to justify the apparently absurd notion of his that he wasn't ready to start killing gays YET.

On the other hand, he has held up capital punishment laws in other countries as models to aspire to.

WTF is wrong with you, Van? This Swanson douche is an evil person. Period.
 
LOL! Did you watch it? He was going out of his way to justify the apparently absurd notion of his that he wasn't ready to start killing gays YET.

On the other hand, he has held up capital punishment laws in other countries as models to aspire to.

WTF is wrong with you, Van? This Swanson douche is an evil person. Period.
Barack Obama hates America and white people right? Wasn't this what the original point was? Ted Cruz is at the same place so Cruz believes we should kill gay people. Swanson said he was not for it on the video and you ignore it. What is wrong with you?
 
Have you seen his unfavorables? He will get slaughtered in the general election.

I don't doubt that. Just don't see Hillary carrying a Texas, or Alabama, or Utah, or, Kansas....or any other deep red states.


I'm hoping all hell breaks lose, Bloomberg gets in, the right runs their own ' conservative' candidate.


A big 4 person race. Sounds exciting.
 
I don't doubt that. Just don't see Hillary carrying a Texas, or Alabama, or Utah, or, Kansas....or any other deep red states.


I'm hoping all hell breaks lose, Bloomberg gets in, the right runs their own ' conservative' candidate.


A big 4 person race. Sounds exciting.
Bloomberg is only getting in if Bernie threatens to actually win the nod. We will see after Tuesday I guess.

I am also rooting for chaos above everything else. As long as Cruz is out, I couldn't care less about who wins.
 
Barack Obama hates America and white people right? Wasn't this what the original point was? Ted Cruz is at the same place so Cruz believes we should kill gay people. Swanson said he was not for it on the video and you ignore it. What is wrong with you?
You're the one defending this idiot. I don't see anybody defending that nutjob that you're tying to Obama. It's telling that you continue to ignore my question to you. There is literally nothing. Christ never uttered one word on homosexuality. Not one. But you follow his teachings and call yourself a Christian. Sure. Sure you are.
 
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