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Portal Players IU is Pursuing

Wow! 24 schools have expressed interest in this guy. Must be one helluva player.

Wonder how Bradley missed the tournament with a great shooter like this on their team.

Seriously?

Bradley was missing their best play for most the year due to a concussion. They also got killed in the transfer portal last year and this year’s team never really jelled. Injuries and new faces make it challenging on some of these programs with less depth.
 
Is the delay in adding someone from the Portal because we are still waiting to see what TJD and RT are going to do?
 

Looking at these two guys---both 6'3".....

Terry Roberts---From Florida.....originally a JUCO guy.....grades, or looking to play up? Don't know. But he's an impressive player. Has huge assists and rebounding #s. Here's a good story about him--


Know nothing about his character. Assuming he is ok there, we could only wish he'd sign with us
 
Looking at these two guys---both 6'3".....

Terry Roberts---From Florida.....originally a JUCO guy.....grades, or looking to play up? Don't know. But he's an impressive player. Has huge assists and rebounding #s. Here's a good story about him--


Know nothing about his character. Assuming he is ok there, we could only wish he'd sign with us

As for Cameron Healy-----right now, frankly, he's more our speed. Very unimpressive rebounding, assist and steal #s.

Per every 40M. Terry with 6.8 rebs, 5.7 assists, and 2.2 steals. Same #s for Healy are 3.1, 1.9 & .9.

Healy is the better pure shooter. Terry last yr: .502 on 2s; .345 on 3s, .700 on FTs. Healy: .553; .365; .762. He was an efficient scorer---avg. 18.2 per every 40M v. 20.1 for Terry.

Conclusion....Terry has very large upside. Are there any character issues? Don't know. Healy is a 5th year guy--maybe with 2 years left? Originally from Australia. Went to Montverde HS in Florida, which is of interest. A little over 2 to 1 as far as 3 pt attempts to 2 pt attempts. Terry is the exact opposite--2x the # of 2 pt attempts to 3 pt attemts
 
As for Cameron Healy-----right now, frankly, he's more our speed. Very unimpressive rebounding, assist and steal #s.

Per every 40M. Terry with 6.8 rebs, 5.7 assists, and 2.2 steals. Same #s for Healy are 3.1, 1.9 & .9.

Healy is the better pure shooter. Terry last yr: .502 on 2s; .345 on 3s, .700 on FTs. Healy: .553; .365; .762. He was an efficient scorer---avg. 18.2 per every 40M v. 20.1 for Terry.

Conclusion....Terry has very large upside. Are there any character issues? Don't know. Healy is a 5th year guy--maybe with 2 years left? Originally from Australia. Went to Montverde HS in Florida, which is of interest. A little over 2 to 1 as far as 3 pt attempts to 2 pt attempts. Terry is the exact opposite--2x the # of 2 pt attempts to 3 pt attemts
What were Nick Zeisloft’s numbers at Illinois State? 11ppg? Mid 30s % 3ptrs? Ofcourse he had a pg named Yogi Ferrell.
 
As for Cameron Healy-----right now, frankly, he's more our speed. Very unimpressive rebounding, assist and steal #s.

Per every 40M. Terry with 6.8 rebs, 5.7 assists, and 2.2 steals. Same #s for Healy are 3.1, 1.9 & .9.

Healy is the better pure shooter. Terry last yr: .502 on 2s; .345 on 3s, .700 on FTs. Healy: .553; .365; .762. He was an efficient scorer---avg. 18.2 per every 40M v. 20.1 for Terry.

Conclusion....Terry has very large upside. Are there any character issues? Don't know. Healy is a 5th year guy--maybe with 2 years left? Originally from Australia. Went to Montverde HS in Florida, which is of interest. A little over 2 to 1 as far as 3 pt attempts to 2 pt attempts. Terry is the exact opposite--2x the # of 2 pt attempts to 3 pt attemts
One other thing....Healy doesn't turn the ball over much...basically 2x every 40M v. 4 for Terry.

To me, he looks like a shorter version of Miller Kopp (in terms of stats going into his transfer portal year). Maybe that's why Woody's interested................
 
Looking at these two guys---both 6'3".....

Terry Roberts---From Florida.....originally a JUCO guy.....grades, or looking to play up? Don't know. But he's an impressive player. Has huge assists and rebounding #s. Here's a good story about him--


Know nothing about his character. Assuming he is ok there, we could only wish he'd sign with us
Actually sounds a lot like X Johnson....story says he's a PG and thus the assist & TP #s.
 
I like exploring every option and we need shooting - no doubt.

That said, with Race, Trace and Durr all potentially gone - arguably we need size just as much.

Size that can shoot would be pretty awesome. Like a Jack Nunge type of guy.

The coaching staff seems strangely confident about the situation with the bigs........feels as if they are pretty confident they'll at least have 2/3 of TJD, Race & JG. Either that, or they're chewing on their fingernails, while waiting and hoping for the best.
 
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The calculation for TJD and Race is the money - what can they make in NIL money during another year at IU versus G-League or foreign basketball league money. TJD will go pro if he will be first round NBA draft choice, second round virtually guarantees him G-League. Race probably is not an NBA draft choice in either the first or second round. So TJD is waiting for an assessment of his draft position prospects and Race evaluating NIL versus whether he really wants to go overseas.
 
If BOTH TJD and Race leave...then I think we have to go after someone that can defend and rebound B10 level bigs. There will still be some pretty solid bigs to contend with in the conference in Cockburn, Dickinson, Edey, etc...

Assuming at least one of them comes back though, as I've stated before, we need to go after the best all around, strongest, most physical 6'4 to 6'8 wings we can find. Obviously if they can hit outside shots, that'd be very helpful too.

Lots of "Ifs" here...but not too far of a reach I don't think

IF:

-Race or TJD anchoring the post
-Transfer 6'5-6'7 ish versatile, strong, football player looking wing that can hit shots
-Xavier comes back with his head on straight like he finished the year
-JHS shows what he showed against elite HS competition (solid all around, physical, PG)
-Tamar and Jordan both progress

We'll easily be upper half of the B10...with a chance to compete up for a title maybe.

-If both TJD and Race are back, depending on how they're used, it takes the team above and makes it a legit B10 title contender
-If either or both of Gunn or Banks come in and contribute more than expected, above the rest of the stuff already mentioned, it makes us a Final Four capable team.

Whether or not we actually fullfill any of the lofty things we'll be capable of, will depend on whether we figure out how to put teams away and/or win close games.
 
If BOTH TJD and Race leave...then I think we have to go after someone that can defend and rebound B10 level bigs. There will still be some pretty solid bigs to contend with in the conference in Cockburn, Dickinson, Edey, etc...

Assuming at least one of them comes back though, as I've stated before, we need to go after the best all around, strongest, most physical 6'4 to 6'8 wings we can find. Obviously if they can hit outside shots, that'd be very helpful too.

Lots of "Ifs" here...but not too far of a reach I don't think

IF:

-Race or TJD anchoring the post
-Transfer 6'5-6'7 ish versatile, strong, football player looking wing that can hit shots
-Xavier comes back with his head on straight like he finished the year
-JHS shows what he showed against elite HS competition (solid all around, physical, PG)
-Tamar and Jordan both progress

We'll easily be upper half of the B10...with a chance to compete up for a title maybe.

-If both TJD and Race are back, depending on how they're used, it takes the team above and makes it a legit B10 title contender
-If either or both of Gunn or Banks come in and contribute more than expected, above the rest of the stuff already mentioned, it makes us a Final Four capable team.

Whether or not we actually fullfill any of the lofty things we'll be capable of, will depend on whether we figure out how to put teams away and/or win close games.

Wow, I was right with you until you threw out that FF reference.

If we do get a 6'5" or 6'6" guy I do hope he's a tough guy, not a Kopp who at 6'7" averages 3 rebounds/game. (Or Ali, the 6'6" Akron player in the portal, from Indiana originally). We can't have another low volume 3 point shooter who doesn't rebound, imo. One thing about the Healy kid (the only good thing, as far as I can see) is that he does shoot a good # of 3s.
 
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Wow, I was right with you until you threw out that FF reference.

If we do get a 6'5" or 6'6" guy I do hope he's a tough guy, not a Kopp who at 6'7" averages 3 rebounds/game. (Or Ali, the 6'6" Akron player in the portal, from Indiana originally). We can't have another low volume 3 point shooter who doesn't rebound, imo. One thing about the Healy kid (the only good thing, as far as I can see) is that he does shoot a good # of 3s.
Kopp is about 6-5, maybe 6-5.5.
 
Wow, I was right with you until you threw out that FF reference.

If we do get a 6'5" or 6'6" guy I do hope he's a tough guy, not a Kopp who at 6'7" averages 3 rebounds/game. (Or Ali, the 6'6" Akron player in the portal, from Indiana originally). We can't have another low volume 3 point shooter who doesn't rebound, imo. One thing about the Healy kid (the only good thing, as far as I can see) is that he does shoot a good # of 3s.
The FF reference caught my eye too, but with those returnees and if we get lucky (for once) with a sophomore bump and a freshman surprise I wouldn't call it crazy. Both Kansas and NC were beatable for much of the year and then caught fire.
 
The coaching staff seems strangely confident about the situation with the bigs........feels as if they are pretty confident they'll at least have 2/3 of TJD, Race & JG. Either that, or they're chewing on their fingernails, while waiting and hoping for the best.
They appear to be going hard after Reneau. Unless you don’t count that?
 
If BOTH TJD and Race leave...then I think we have to go after someone that can defend and rebound B10 level bigs. There will still be some pretty solid bigs to contend with in the conference in Cockburn, Dickinson, Edey, etc...

Assuming at least one of them comes back though, as I've stated before, we need to go after the best all around, strongest, most physical 6'4 to 6'8 wings we can find. Obviously if they can hit outside shots, that'd be very helpful too.

Lots of "Ifs" here...but not too far of a reach I don't think

IF:

-Race or TJD anchoring the post
-Transfer 6'5-6'7 ish versatile, strong, football player looking wing that can hit shots
-Xavier comes back with his head on straight like he finished the year
-JHS shows what he showed against elite HS competition (solid all around, physical, PG)
-Tamar and Jordan both progress

We'll easily be upper half of the B10...with a chance to compete up for a title maybe.

-If both TJD and Race are back, depending on how they're used, it takes the team above and makes it a legit B10 title contender
-If either or both of Gunn or Banks come in and contribute more than expected, above the rest of the stuff already mentioned, it makes us a Final Four capable team.

Whether or not we actually fullfill any of the lofty things we'll be capable of, will depend on whether we figure out how to put teams away and/or win close games.
Title?
What team (IU) did you watch last yr.
I'll go even if both TJD / Race come back..And we add decent players out of the portal..
We're 3-5th at best..
Remember...That's Mike Woodson as head coach..
Not Phil Jackson or Pop's ...
 
The FF reference caught my eye too, but with those returnees and if we get lucky (for once) with a sophomore bump and a freshman surprise I wouldn't call it crazy. Both Kansas and NC were beatable for much of the year and then caught fire.

Yeah, what happened with UNC is kind of crazy. In their 9 losses, their average margin of defeat was 17 pts, with only one loss of fewer than 9 pts. Before their win against Duke in the last regular season game, their best wins were against VT and Mich, and without that Duke win, they could have missed out on the tournament altogether
 
Yeah, what happened with UNC is kind of crazy. In their 9 losses, their average margin of defeat was 17 pts, with only one loss of fewer than 9 pts. Before their win against Duke in the last regular season game, their best wins were against VT and Mich, and without that Duke win, they could have missed out on the tournament altogether
You missed the point, which was to imagine XJ, TJD, and Race with 2 other reasonable scoring threats. Not sure why you felt the slam on Woodson was relevant.
 
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Wow, I was right with you until you threw out that FF reference.

If we do get a 6'5" or 6'6" guy I do hope he's a tough guy, not a Kopp who at 6'7" averages 3 rebounds/game. (Or Ali, the 6'6" Akron player in the portal, from Indiana originally). We can't have another low volume 3 point shooter who doesn't rebound, imo. One thing about the Healy kid (the only good thing, as far as I can see) is that he does shoot a good # of 3s.
I leave myself a lot of wiggle room with Final Four "capable"...

But I will say that this years team could have become capable of winning 4 tournament games if the things I listed had happened. Heck, if X plays the whole year like he did, and we had just 1 guy step up and make outside shots regularly...we'd have won what, 5-6 more B10 games? That means we contend for a B10 title, and we get 4-5 seed probably at worst in the NCAA tournament. And I actually think Woodson led teams, if they play anywhere similar to what this team played, will be built for tournament success. This particular team had too many holes, and was coming off some strange travel circumstances. But the hard nosed, defensive minded approach has staying power in the NCAA tournament.

Fill some holes in this past years team, give them another year under the same leadership, and who knows what they can accomplish?! I own a St Peters Peacocks shirt now. Obviously IU would be "capable" of making a final four with some moderate improvements.
 
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