Otter Creek Golf?

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

Talk to me.

Getting my ureteral stent out (again) Wednesday. Thinking about golf at Otter Creek before the Illinois game.

Other suggestions?

My game stinks and not ready for Pfau.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

No idea, but just know that I had a hand in making your stent. You can thank me that it went in easy. The coming out part, I can not guarantee.

Oh, shoot from the girls tee's until ... well, you will know when you don't need to anymore.

 

[jet812]

Talk to me.

Getting my ureteral stent out (again) Wednesday. Thinking about golf at Otter Creek before the Illinois game.

Other suggestions?

My game stinks and not ready for Pfau.

Chariot Run is decent & not too far from you. Have you played both courses at French Lick?

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

No idea, but just know that I had a hand in making your stent. You can thank me that it went in easy. The coming out part, I can not guarantee.

Oh, shoot from the girls tee's until ... well, you will know when you don't need to anymore.

This is my second stent since April 25. Had one in from 4/25 to 6/21 and this one since 8/8. Cant wait for removal Wednesday. Would like to feel semi-normal again.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

Chariot Run is decent & not too far from you. Have you played both courses at French Lick?

Played Chariot Run and the Donald Ross. Not the Pete Dye.

 

[jet812]

Played Chariot Run and the Donald Ross. Not the Pete Dye.

The Dye is a lot of fun, & about 5 strokes easier than the Ross (Imo). The condition of the course is generally as good as anywhere I’ve played.

 

[twenty02]

The Pfau course is very playable from the right tees. I'd move up one box from whatever normal yardage you like to play. Go there and enjoy, beautiful track.

I haven't been to Otter Creek for years, but understand that it a shell of what it once was. Not like it's an easy layout, anyway. I'd play Pfau 5x over once at Otter.


The Dye course at FL is a great experience, but it's $350+ forecaddie tip.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

This is my second stent since April 25. Had one in from 4/25 to 6/21 and this one since 8/8. Cant wait for removal Wednesday. Would like to feel semi-normal again.

Hope everything goes well and that you are playing golf for years to come.

 

[NPT]

This is my second stent since April 25. Had one in from 4/25 to 6/21 and this one since 8/8. Cant wait for removal Wednesday. Would like to feel semi-normal again.

Some stents hurt like %^$#!! Others didn't bother me at all.

 

[ribbont]

Talk to me.

Getting my ureteral stent out (again) Wednesday. Thinking about golf at Otter Creek before the Illinois game.

Other suggestions?

My game stinks and not ready for Pfau.

Otter is great and still hosts top events. Plus 450 North Brewery is a terrific place for beer and food afterwards.

If coming from the south, then Sultans Run in Jasper is in fantastic shape and a good layout.

Pfau is awesome as well, but likely it will be full and if not full, crowded with a lot of first timers doing what you are looking to do. And if you don't know the course, it'll be a long day.

 

[Ladoga]

Talk to me.

Getting my ureteral stent out (again) Wednesday. Thinking about golf at Otter Creek before the Illinois game.

Other suggestions?

My game stinks and not ready for Pfau.

Either of Fuzzy's courses -Covered Bridge and Champions Point - both around the first 20 minutes after you cross the river. Might be too far from the Stadium for the trip after your round.

 

[Ladoga]

Talk to me.

Getting my ureteral stent out (again) Wednesday. Thinking about golf at Otter Creek before the Illinois game.

Other suggestions?

My game stinks and not ready for Pfau.

Or maybe Stonecrest? North of Bedford west of old 37. Turn northwest at the junction of 37 and old 37 then west where you can. 27 holes . Played if once long ago. Not bad $35 weekend senior with cart.

 

[TDHoosier]

Either of Fuzzy's courses -Covered Bridge and Champions Point - both around the first 20 minutes after you cross the river. Might be too far from the Stadium for the trip after your round.

Covered is nice and beautiful, both daughters were married there great venue with really good golf! I’m playing there Friday and haven’t swung a club in a year, lol. Thank goodness for beer drinking scrambles.

 

[Sope Creek]

Talk to me.

Getting my ureteral stent out (again) Wednesday. Thinking about golf at Otter Creek before the Illinois game.

Other suggestions?

My game stinks and not ready for Pfau.

Wrong board. You need to check in with @McNutt76. He hangs out on the AOTF on occasion.

BTW, last I heard Columbus Parks was in over its financial head with Otter and was looking to sell it. The primary bidder was Bob Haddad, owner of Harrison Lake Country Club, where McNutt hung out with his dentist buddy.

 

[jet812]

Otter is great and still hosts top events. Plus 450 North Brewery is a terrific place for beer and food afterwards.

If coming from the south, then Sultans Run in Jasper is in fantastic shape and a good layout.

Pfau is awesome as well, but likely it will be full and if not full, crowded with a lot of first timers doing what you are looking to do. And if you don't know the course, it'll be a long day.

Sultans is usually great but ain’t in the best shape for the price. They had burned up some areas around greens earlier this year but perhaps have recovered. That’s typically my “home course” I just haven’t played much this year.

 

[mattndallas]

Eagle Pointe is making a nice little comeback the past couple years. When we first moved up here, it looked rough. Apparently, the HOA owners bought the place, and the conditioning lately has gotten better. Looks better when driving by.

Bloomington CC is one of the best conditioned courses in the area. Zoysia fairways are immaculate, and the Super waters the course beautifully. He likes in to play tan and fast in the summer, and the greens are always good.

Pfau could be a challenge. Even if you play from the Senior/Ladies tees (where you often tee up from the fairway), the uphill and forced carry approaches make it daunting.

Played Martinsville a couple weeks ago...and honestly, it continues to disappoint me. Shaggy fairways with burnt spots. Greens that are suffering. Un-maintained bunkers. Martinsville could be a gem. Couldn't imagine what that play would look like if some high dollar investor bought it, and brought in Doak to overhaul it. Would be magnificent.

Played Otter two summers ago (the middle and the east). Dug the middle. East felt like it didn't quite belong, but still a good test. I've wanted to go back and play the Middle/West combo, which is the "Championship" setup.

Maybe check out Otis down in Bedford? Never played it, but I'm told it's better than Cascades and Martinsville.

 

[ribbont]

Sultans is usually great but ain’t in the best shape for the price. They had burned up some areas around greens earlier this year but perhaps have recovered. That’s typically my “home course” I just haven’t played much this year.

Friend of mine played it last week and said it was in great shape. Guess "great" is in eye of the player. I've have scored well at courses that all of sudden were in "great shape" and "hard as hell".

 

[jet812]

Friend of mine played it last week and said it was in great shape. Guess "great" is in eye of the player. I've have scored well at courses that all of sudden were in "great shape" and "hard as hell".

Good to hear….I should get out more.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Eagle Pointe is making a nice little comeback the past couple years. When we first moved up here, it looked rough. Apparently, the HOA owners bought the place, and the conditioning lately has gotten better. Looks better when driving by.

Bloomington CC is one of the best conditioned courses in the area. Zoysia fairways are immaculate, and the Super waters the course beautifully. He likes in to play tan and fast in the summer, and the greens are always good.

Pfau could be a challenge. Even if you play from the Senior/Ladies tees (where you often tee up from the fairway), the uphill and forced carry approaches make it daunting.

Played Martinsville a couple weeks ago...and honestly, it continues to disappoint me. Shaggy fairways with burnt spots. Greens that are suffering. Un-maintained bunkers. Martinsville could be a gem. Couldn't imagine what that play would look like if some high dollar investor bought it, and brought in Doak to overhaul it. Would be magnificent.

Played Otter two summers ago (the middle and the east). Dug the middle. East felt like it didn't quite belong, but still a good test. I've wanted to go back and play the Middle/West combo, which is the "Championship" setup.

Maybe check out Otis down in Bedford? Never played it, but I'm told it's better than Cascades and Martinsville.

zoysia has been a game changer for golf courses.

plays almost as nice as bent, but is much sturdier and cheaper.

BCC was ahead of the game there iirc, thanks in part to a member there pushing it.

and Otis is nicer than Cascades, but it is on a much more interesting piece of real estate, very interesting in fact, and transformed over to zoysia before Cascades did.

i'm guessing even many formerly all bent midwest courses are switching over to zoysia fairways.

Rolling Meadows in Gosport used to be great, and reasonable.

haven't played it since i heard the guy who had it died, so don't know what shape it's now in, but the front 9 there was especially interesting and fun.

with most everyone going zoysia, no reason to ever pay big bucks to play anymore.

 

[ribbont]

zoysia has been a game changer for golf courses.

plays almost as nice as bent, but is much sturdier and cheaper.

BCC was ahead of the game there iirc, thanks in part to a member there pushing it.

and Otis is nicer than Cascades, but it is on a much more interesting piece of real estate, very interesting in fact, and transformed over to zoysia before Cascades did.

i'm guessing even many formerly all bent midwest courses are switching over to zoysia fairways.

Rolling Meadows in Gosport used to be great, and reasonable.

haven't played it since i heard the guy who had it died, so don't know what shape it's now in, but the front 9 there was especially interesting and fun.

with most everyone going zoysia, no reason to ever pay big bucks to play anymore.

I pay for better greens and layout. Otis, Stonecrest, Cascades, RM, Pointe, Martinsville, and Salt Creek have slow, spongy greens. About a 5 on the stimp. BCC, Pfau, and Otter have great greens usually at 10-12.

I hate playing greens where I have to get my weight shifted just to get it there.

 

[ce36ei]

Grew up on Otis Park. For the value, it’s insane. $25. (It might be $30 on weekends now) But there’s nothing special. It’s a muni. Used to be tree lined with mature Ash but they’ve all died. The actual course is in pretty good shape for a small town city owned.

 

[twenty02]

zoysia has been a game changer for golf courses.

plays almost as nice as bent, but is much sturdier and cheaper.

BCC was ahead of the game there iirc, thanks in part to a member there pushing it.

and Otis is nicer than Cascades, but it is on a much more interesting piece of real estate, very interesting in fact, and transformed over to zoysia before Cascades did.

i'm guessing even many formerly all bent midwest courses are switching over to zoysia fairways.

Rolling Meadows in Gosport used to be great, and reasonable.

haven't played it since i heard the guy who had it died, so don't know what shape it's now in, but the front 9 there was especially interesting and fun.

with most everyone going zoysia, no reason to ever pay big bucks to play anymore.

Zoysia is a warm season grass and Bloomington is about as far north as you can reasonably have it. It stays dormant until soil temps are 65+ degrees. You also can't easily 'switch over'.... it can really only be sodded when it comes to fairways, so it's a very significant upfront expense. (It can be plugged, but will take several years to fill in).

It's a great turf in the right places, but there is a reason you only see it in certain regions.

 

[ce36ei]

I hate it up here. It’s the last week of April first week of May before it comes in. You only really get 5 solid months.

 

[ribbont]

Grew up on Otis Park. For the value, it’s insane. $25. (It might be $30 on weekends now) But there’s nothing special. It’s a muni. Used to be tree lined with mature Ash but they’ve all died. The actual course is in pretty good shape for a small town city owned.

Me too. I worked at the golf course during HS and college. Mowed everywhere on that course. But that was prior to Zoysia.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Grew up on Otis Park. For the value, it’s insane. $25. (It might be $30 on weekends now) But there’s nothing special. It’s a muni. Used to be tree lined with mature Ash but they’ve all died. The actual course is in pretty good shape for a small town city owned.

Me too. I worked at the golf course during HS and college. Mowed everywhere on that course. But that was prior to Zoysia.

played Otis a couple times in the summer of 2019.

twilight rate was $6 with a cart.

greens were nothing great, but zoysia fairways were very nice.

some serious elevation changes made for some really fun shots.

fun course, and a fantastic deal for the money.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Zoysia is a warm season grass and Bloomington is about as far north as you can reasonably have it. It stays dormant until soil temps are 65+ degrees. You also can't easily 'switch over'.... it can really only be sodded when it comes to fairways, so it's a very significant upfront expense. (It can be plugged, but will take several years to fill in).

It's a great turf in the right places, but there is a reason you only see it in certain regions.

yet most everyone in the area has or is switching over. it has been a game changer.

and most to basically all premium grasses are specific to certain regions.

that said, still nothing nicer than bent fairways, but zoysia is a great affordable upgrade to basic Ky bluegrass. (or whatever non all bent Indiana courses were before zoysia started being used).

 

[ribbont]

yet most everyone in the area has or is switching over. it has been a game changer.

and most to basically all premium grasses are specific to certain regions.

that said, still nothing nicer than bent fairways, but zoysia is a great affordable upgrade to basic Ky bluegrass. (or whatever non all bent Indiana courses were before zoysia started being used).

Most are rye, like at Stonecrest, Cascades, Martinsville, and Salt Creek. Requires lots of water and susceptible to disease.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

Otter Creek North was a little beat up, but the greens still rolled true if you fixed 60 or 70 pitch marks left by jerk golfers after playing out of a trap not raked by jerk golfers.

West was in better shape.

Both featured well-bunkered greens. Be careful out there.

Ate outside at The Pump House. Nice.

Silly Rabbit, 8:00 pm starts are for kids

 

[Sope Creek]

Otter Creek North was a little beat up, but the greens still rolled true if you fixed 60 or 70 pitch marks left by jerk golfers after playing out of a trap not raked by jerk golfers.

West was in better shape.

Both featured well-bunkered greens. Be careful out there.

Ate outside at The Pump House. Nice.

Silly Rabbit, 8:00 pm starts are for kids

Former IU golfer and Indiana State Amateur Champ Gary Biddinger (RIP) used to fix 3 ball marks on each green when he was playing out there. If he was in a threesome, they'd fix 9 between them. Greens were in great shape back in the day.

 

[Sope Creek]

Otter Creek North was a little beat up, but the greens still rolled true if you fixed 60 or 70 pitch marks left by jerk golfers after playing out of a trap not raked by jerk golfers.

West was in better shape.

Both featured well-bunkered greens. Be careful out there.

Ate outside at The Pump House. Nice.

Silly Rabbit, 8:00 pm starts are for kids

Had to look up The Pump House . . . former senior center. And before that it was . . . vacant.

Surprised you didn't eat at the Otter Creek restaurant . . . in that Harry Weese designed clubhouse.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

Had to look up The Pump House . . . former senior center. And before that it was . . . vacant.

Surprised you didn't eat at the Otter Creek restaurant . . . in that Harry Weese designed clubhouse.

Turned out my guys had played golf atValhalla with owners of The Pump House.

 

[td75]

Harrison Lakes used to be a gem in Columbus. We played up there a time or two on my high school team. Also played the old Seymour course a bunch in high school. I think it's gone, though.

 

[Sope Creek]

Harrison Lakes used to be a gem in Columbus. We played up there a time or two on my high school team. Also played the old Seymour course a bunch in high school. I think it's gone, though.

Yep.

Lots of fall color too . . . although in fall the leaves on the ground could hide a golf ball like nobody's business.

I especially liked the 7th hole. Slightly elevated tee. Long line of trees down the right side; sort of open on the left (8th green and fairway). Water (dry creek funneling runoff into a sort of surface marshy area) on the right at the bottom of the hill. Then a steady climb up a hill to a green guarded by a bunker on the front right. 508 yard par 5. There was a flat landing place on the left side of the fairway about 280 yards from the tee . . . so on the tee it was either aim for that, go into the woods on the right (or into the 12th fairway on the right), or play a down hill lie shot from the right center of the 7th fairway . . . the water could come into play on the drive on the 12th tee too. Maybe I liked it because it was where there were restrooms and a water fountain over on the right, just past the tee.

I recall when the back side was added. It was a 9 hole course when I first learned to play as a little kid.

When I was in high school and college, the women's state amateur was played at Harrison and the men's state amateur was played at Otter Creek. Heady times those . . . .

 

[stollcpa]

Friend of mine played it last week and said it was in great shape. Guess "great" is in eye of the player. I've have scored well at courses that all of sudden were in "great shape" and "hard as hell".

Sultans has been really good the two times I’ve played it this year.

 

[Hulls4Three]

Why did they make PFAU so hard? What are they trying to prove? Ridiculous.

 

[ribbont]

Why did they make PFAU so hard? What are they trying to prove? Ridiculous.

It has to be comparable with other BT courses. And from the correct tees, it's not an impossible track. I play from 6700ish (blues) and if I play well, I'll break 80. That's about the same for me at other tough courses like Dye, Crooked Stick, and Whistling Straits.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

Why did they make PFAU so hard? What are they trying to prove? Ridiculous.

Big Ten competition
Maybe a Korn Ferry

 

[UncleMark]

Why did they make PFAU so hard? What are they trying to prove? Ridiculous.

I take it you shot poorly. Hurt your feelz?

 

[Hulls4Three]

I take it you shot poorly. Hurt your feelz?

I try not to take golf to seriously. Hence the usual 6 miller lights by the time we make the turn. My playing partner always has to pretend as if he’s not pissed as we walk to the 10th tee down a couple hundred dollars.

In my defense, I play with sharks, most of them low single digits or better, while I trot out there with my 15.8 index and get walloped routinely.

But life is about trade offs, while they’re at the range or on the course, I’m usually in the gym, hence why they’re balding and have guts and I’m an Adonis.

 

[twenty02]

Why did they make PFAU so hard? What are they trying to prove? Ridiculous.

Only have played it once, about a year ago. Thought it was a fabulous course. Tough, but fair. Beautiful layout.