Only 30% of Americans support pardons for J6 criminals.

[crazed_hoosier2]

Looks like a lot more pardons will be coming before the inauguration.

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This story came out a year ago -- the source was reportedly a high-level CIA whistleblower. I'm pretty sure the agency denied that this happened. But they would, wouldn't they?

I guess my question is why the CIA would have any interest in denying the lab-leak hypotheses -- if, anyway, their information pointed in that direction. According to the narrative of the whistleblower, there were 7 members on the panel and only the most senior member favored zoonotic origin. The other 6 did not.

I can see where the NIH and its proxies would have an interest in promoting zoonotic origin. But other than them, the only other people who would share that interest are the Chinese.

 

[Willdog7]

🔥 🔥🔥

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Traitor

 

[Willdog7]

Again, you keep trying to compare the transgressions, I'm comparing the popularity of both pardons. This isn't rocket surgery.

not even equal ,one is a traitor

 

[dbmhoosier]

Traitor

 

[Willdog7]

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You hate your country traitor.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

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Your Trumpster Twitter Twits are so stupid and it's embarrassing that that one purports to be a Republican Congressman.

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

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Of all the people the word treason is thrown at, the J6 rioters are those that the charge might actually apply to.

 

[hoot1]

Your Trumpster Twitter Twits are so stupid and it's embarrassing that that one purports to be a Republican Congressman.

Like to believe I'm open minded, but just as some reject what they call the mainstream media, I just skip by all "X" material posted at the Cooler.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Of all the people the word treason is thrown at, the J6 rioters are those that the charge might actually apply to.

The IG report doesn't at all support the stupid and ridiculous idea that CIs inspired these "patriotic peaceful protestors" to become violent rioters. Not even a little bit. Notably it notes that no CIs were involved in any criminal activity or were prosecuted. Of course, this means Ray Epps, who was prosecuted and convicted, wasn't a CI or a Fed. They will not get that. I'm just sick of the stupidity on my side of the aisle. It's such an embarrassment.

 

[dbmhoosier]

🎯 And there were a lot more undercover Feds than in the report.

 

[orangecoast]

not even equal ,one is a traitor

One is 30% approval, the other 22%. How are percentages traitorous?

 

[Willdog7]

Of all the people the word treason is thrown at, the J6 rioters are those that the charge might actually apply to.

They and trump tried to overthrow the govt. They are insurrectionists.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

🎯 And there were a lot more undercover Feds than in the report.

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I’m not watching that, but I just read the IG report yesterday. The IG report said there were NO undercover FBI agents (Feds) in the J6 mob. Zero. CIs are not Feds, they are informers who report to the FBI about criminal and potentially criminal individuals and groups. Usually they are members of such groups (like the Mafia or neo-Nazi members) who have been convinced to work with law enforcement). Of the 26 CIs, only 3 had been asked to be there that day to report on potential criminal behavior which became actual criminal behavior (this is in the report, which you should read, but won’t). Traditional law and order Republicans support these law enforcement practices. I don’t know exactly why MAGA “Republicans” don’t, but I find it shameful. The convicted J6 rioters are not patriotic heroes, they’re criminals. The heroes that day were the Capitol Police that defended the Capitol and the elected Congressmen there that day.

I’ve watched some of Jesse Waters’ show on occasion and there is nothing brilliant about him. Well, to you, a ripe cantaloupe might seem brilliant.

 

[iubhounds]

It's in the link. Supporting and defending the J6 rioters is one of the many things I don't get about the MAGA faction of the party. They attacked police. They damaged Capitol property. These are things Republicans historically oppose.

And many of them that entered the capital peacefully, as the Capital Police waved them in and remained peaceful taking photos ... were jailed. Yes, there were some that did what you say but those that didn't I raise my middle finger to the DOJ just like they and many others are doing.

I remember seeing Whey tell Congress when asked that he was unaware of any FBI agents at the J6 protest ... 12 hours ago that lie was busted on the news. I might be a retired vet but my eyes are not closed to continuous government bullshit the past 4 years.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

And many of them that entered the capital peacefully, as the Capital Police waved them in and remained peaceful taking photos ... were jailed. Yes, there were some that did what you say but those that didn't I raise my middle finger to the DOJ just like they and many others are doing.

I remember seeing Whey tell Congress when asked that he was unaware of any FBI agents at the J6 protest ... 12 hours ago that lie was busted on the news. I might be a retired vet but my eyes are not closed to continuous government bullshit the past 4 years.

That point has been greatly exaggerated. There was basically one cop standing against many protesters/rioters at one entrance and he prudently let them in because he knew he couldn't stop them. There are tons of evidence that many of the mob fought with the Capitol Police to gain entrance. Many cops were injured.

Your second paragraph is wrong. The Inspector General's (IG's) report from yesterday said there were NO FEDS in that crowd. There were 26 Confidential Informers (CIs) among the 10s of Thousands of protesters/rioters (probably not nearly enough). Feds and CIs are not the same. Wray's testimony wasn't false, that claim that it was is false.

There are many military veterans in the FBI. I really am tired of veterans that should know better disparaging them.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

Who is “they”?

Why should any peaceful protestor be arrested and charged with a crime?

Talking in generalities is meaningless.

 

[iubhounds]

That point has been greatly exaggerated. There was basically one cop standing against many protesters/rioters at one entrance and he prudently let them in because he knew he couldn't stop them. There are tons of evidence that many of the mob fought with the Capitol Police to gain entrance. Many cops were injured.

Your second paragraph is wrong. The Inspector General's (IG's) report from yesterday said there were NO FEDS in that crowd. There were 26 Confidential Informers (CIs) among the 10s of Thousands of protesters/rioters (probably not nearly enough). Feds and CIs are not the same. Wray's testimony wasn't false, that claim that it was is false.

There are many military veterans in the FBI. I really am tired of veterans that should know better disparaging them.

I saw photos at the time it was happening, more than ONE policeman waving them in. Some were even walking with the people after they invited them inside. Wray's was false because I saw him in person stating what I said ... on CSPAN not FoxNews or whatever his name is. The fact is the government, CI or otherwise, was involved in J6. If you deny that then you are an idiot. I have a couple of friends in the FBI and and one relative in Secret Service. I have also voiced my opinions to them in recent years and months.

I deal with facts, always have and do know better.

 

[Willdog7]

One is 30% approval, the other 22%. How are percentages traitorous?

They attacked the capital

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

I saw photos at the time it was happening, more than ONE policeman waving them in. Some were even walking with the people after they invited them inside. Wray's was false because I saw him in person stating what I said ... on CSPAN not FoxNews or whatever his name is. The fact is the government, CI or otherwise, was involved in J6. If you deny that then you are an idiot. I have a couple of friends in the FBI and and one relative in Secret Service. I have also voiced my opinions to them in recent years and months.

I deal with facts, always have and do know better.

Seriously? A CI is NOT a Fed. This is a fact. You are wrong.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/13/politics/trump-january-6-pardons/index.html

 

[orangecoast]

They attacked the capital

Never said otherwise. You keep comparing the crimes. I am Co.paring the approval of said pardons. You are arguing with yourself.

 

[dbmhoosier]

It’s a conspiracy theory.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

It’s a conspiracy theory.

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So? They don’t prosecute CIs (CHSs) for doing their jobs. Of course they reimburse them for expenses. That is one very dumb Congressman.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

So? They don’t prosecute CIs (CHSs) for doing their jobs. Of course they reimburse them for expenses. That is one very dumb Congressman.

I don't think that you are proving the point that you think you are. And you defend the indefensible buy doing so. You are part of the problem.

 

[outside shooter]

Wait, dbm, you're saying that the FBI is NOT supposed to infiltrate terrorist organizations like the Proud Boys anymore? Why not?

I bet they have agents embedded in BLM groups too.

And they should.

 

[Univee2]

They attacked the capital

You sure?

I heard it was the Capitol.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

I don't think that you are proving the point that you think you are. And you defend the indefensible buy doing so. You are part of the problem.

What? I'm not defending the J6 criminals who attacked and injured cops and damaged/destroyed government property. That's indefensible. I don't get your post. What problem are you alluding to?

It's "by," not "buy."

 

[All4You]

False equivalencies are very popular these days.

I noticed that too:

It's weird that Trump calls them 'hostages.' They still pledge allegiance to Trump though which I guess is good enough for a get out of jail free card.

Maybe Luigi Mangione's defense attorney should tell him to wear a MAGA hat, call Trump the best president ever, say his inauguration crowd size is the largest known to human history and claim Brian Thompson voted for Kamala Harris 200 times in multiple swing states and he'd probably get pardoned. He's a fellow Penn grad...he might even get nominated for a cabinet position.

I noticed he offers up the false equivalences...

Ya don't say...

 

[dbmhoosier]

Wait, dbm, you're saying that the FBI is NOT supposed to infiltrate terrorist organizations like the Proud Boys anymore? Why not?

I bet they have agents embedded in BLM groups too.

And they should.

Just wait. You have no idea how deep and sadistic this corruption goes.

Report reveals that FBI spied on its likely new director, Kash Patel

It’s going to be awkward at FBI headquarters next month when President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to lead the bureau likely takes over.

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[Aloha Hoosier]

Instead of repeating disinformation about the report and unsupported opinions, read the report. One big one - there were no undercover FBI agents there:

https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/files/reports/25-011_0.pdf

It's not that the FBI wasn't involved that is the point - they weren't involved enough.