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That’s utter bullshit, champ. The Trumpers I know are indeed older but they haven’t done shit for the country except contributing to the economy. They’re good people - but don’t make it seem like they’re wise and learned. They’re mostly just dumbasses that believe social media and Rush Limbaugh.Or they just believe he is the lesser of two evils. Many who vote for Trump are older people that have likely done far more for the country than you, including people that have fought in foreign wars, people that volunteer in charitable organizations, etc. While opining that they are misguided, misinformed, etc. is debatable, to say anyone that votes for Trump is a terrible citizen is irresponsible & inaccurate. You all have your opinions, & that’s fine, but change happens by setting an example & taking action, not having an opinion.
Bullshit.
IMO Scott's situation has to be one of two:
1. He doesn't believe Trump is racist (seems odd at this stage.)
2. Or he believes being a GOP politician is more important than disavowing a racist
But at this stage, you can't really pretend your party isn't racist. He has no dignity at this point like many of his other colleagues.
Not snark. Goat made the claim, I made counterpoints, Sope defended Goat but is evading answering the question because he would rather argue disingenuously...And you criticize me for "snark".
At least mine has a semblance of relevance.
I know some that are, but I guess if you don’t know them they don’t exist? OK man, whatever you say.That’s utter bullshit, champ. The Trumpers I know are indeed older but they haven’t done shit for the country except contributing to the economy. They’re good people - but don’t make it seem like they’re wise and learned. They’re mostly just dumbasses that believe social media and Rush Limbaugh.
No, it was flaming, and you got called on it.Not snark. Goat made the claim, I made counterpoints, Sope defended Goat but is evading answering the question because he knows I’m right & Goat is wrong...
You know just as many that have served their country in harm’s way, that think Trump is a despicable ass. If you don’t, you need to get out more.I know some that are, but I guess if you don’t know them they don’t exist? OK man, whatever you say.
Donald Trump lost people last night. Biden picked up some. Trump’s bade is always motivated. Fortunately for us, Trump’s base is not big enough. And he’s done nothing in four years to try to expand it. And you have no idea how motivated people are to get him out of office.I watched and enjoyed it fully. I picked up on a basic strategy and came away with 2 takeaways.
1. If any of you think that someone who was going to vote for Donald Trump now changed their mind, you are out of your mind. He didn't lose any of his base and this election is going to come down to turnout of the base.
2. He wanted Joe Biden to alienate the radical left to suppress turnout. He won that going away by getting Joe to claim he is the democratic party, that the "manifesto" is not his plan and that he doesn't support The Green New Deal. This will definitely suppress some turnout form the radical left. They weren't excited about him before and they are even less enthused now.
Neither candidate picked up any additional support, but Donald Trump didn't need to. His base will turn out in droves. His strategy from here on out is about suppressing the other side and from that perspective, he won last night bigly.
I do. You’re making the same mistake Goat & Sope are, which is to say it’s all one way or the other. There are some on both sides, & I never said otherwise. My problem is with those that are Ignorant of that fact.You know just as many that have served their country in harm’s way, that think Trump is a despicable ass. If you don’t, you need to get out more.
Why couldn’t he just answer the question?No, it was flaming, and you got called on it.
Sope strikes me as the kind of guy who says what he means, and wouldn't give 2 shits about trying to evade the likes of you.
Scary thought. How do you feel about his unwillingness to condemn white supremacy?
Not that anyone needs further proof that Trump lies about anything and everything, but the sheriff from Portland has come out to say he didn't endorse Trump.
Manufacturing was in a recession in the last,half of 2019. https://www.markets.businessinsider...per-into-recession-ism-pmi-2019-12-1028730787
That was also a conservative myth. Portland was never burning to the ground and we never lost it. There were some continuous areas, but it amounted to two cities blocks.Wait...Portland has law enforcement? thought they all booked before that place crates into the earth,
That was also a conservative myth. Portland was never burning to the ground and we never lost it. There were some continuous areas, but it amounted to two cities blocks.
I’m not excusing violence, but the stories to scare the suburban housewives - and you apparently - were made up. You can stop clutching your pearls now.
You are wrong about Portland. A lot was concentrated but to say some neighborhoods weren't affected is false.That was also a conservative myth. Portland was never burning to the ground and we never lost it. There were some continuous areas, but it amounted to two cities blocks.
I’m not excusing violence, but the stories to scare the suburban housewives - and you apparently - were made up. You can stop clutching your pearls now.
antifa is just an ideal lolmilitia members: Trump says, STAND BY!
You are wrong about Portland. A lot was concentrated but to say some neighborhoods weren't affected is false.
Donald Trump lost people last night. Biden picked up some. Trump’s bade is always motivated. Fortunately for us, Trump’s base is not big enough. And he’s done nothing in four years to try to expand it. And you have no idea how motivated people are to get him out of office.
yea. Joe killed it last night..Donald Trump lost people last night. Biden picked up some. Trump’s bade is always motivated. Fortunately for us, Trump’s base is not big enough. And he’s done nothing in four years to try to expand it. And you have no idea how motivated people are to get him out of office.
Donald Trump lost people last night. Biden picked up some. Trump’s bade is always motivated. Fortunately for us, Trump’s base is not big enough. And he’s done nothing in four years to try to expand it. And you have no idea how motivated people are to get him out of office.
20 years! Portland will be Portland in a month or so, and your 20 year apocalypse prediction will die like the chitty little Indiana town that you live in died decades ago.Can you imagine your income depending on promoting convention and tourism business in Portland for the next 20 years? Lol.
Along with his prison number.Mr President, next to his name now.
He didn't have to kill it. He just had to not shit the bed. And he succeeded.yea. Joe killed it last night..
Trump did not accomplish what he needed to accomplish. Preliminary numbers suggest Joe expanded his lead very slightly. Even if that bump is temporary, it means that Trump didn't do what he needed to do: gain ground.
2016 was decided in the last week of October. Not sure that's as likely this year, since there will be so much more early voting.That comment could have been applied 4 years ago too and yet...
And a terrible human being. Unless one is an extremely hard-core single issue pro-life person. But quite often those people who are pro-life are anti Planned Parenthood.As I get older I'm starting to realize that saying anyone has done more for their country because they are older is complete and utter bullshit. Some have, some haven't; most have lived and are living their lives like the rest of, just trying to get by. Arguing McCain/Obama, Bush/Gore, Clinton/Dole is reasonable and took place during each of those election cycles and no one was absolutely right or wrong in their arguments. This is not an equivalent. If you are willing to vote for a want-to-be autocrat you are a terrible citizen, it doesn't matter if you're 18 or 800.
Can’t get back that hour of my life. This was incredibly enlightening. Kind of like the debate. Go to your rooms, children!!
20 years! Portland will be Portland in a month or so, and your 20 year apocalypse prediction will die like the chitty little Indiana town that you live in died decades ago.
You don’t know anything about Portland so please be quiet.
2016 was decided in the last week of October. Not sure that's as likely this year, since there will be so much more early voting.