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Ridiculous. Trump is the biggest liar to ever elected President and probably the biggest sleazebag too. If anything he's "normalizing" Bill Clinton who was a womanizing liar, but now he looks like a pretty great guy.
Bill Clinton looks like a pretty great guy compared to, say, Roger Ailes, Bill O'Reilly, Al Franken, and the myriad other celebrities and politicians who have been exposed as serial harassers and abusers...in addition to being lying sleazebags. But Trump is far worse than the worst of any of them. Trump is also a racist asset of Russian intelligence personally profiting through the degradation of the office of the Presidency. He is actively undermining long standing American interests throughout the world in the promotion of democracy and the eradication of corruption. Interests that historically enjoyed strong bipartisan support. But there is more: Trump is a clear and present danger to the rule of law and our system of government. Trump doesn't simply normalize the worst of the worst American politician...he belongs in different class: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/12/opinion/mr-president-your-toga-is-showing.html?_r=0
 
Bill Clinton looks like a pretty great guy compared to, say, Roger Ailes, Bill O'Reilly, Al Franken, and the myriad other celebrities and politicians who have been exposed as serial harassers and abusers...in addition to being lying sleazebags. But Trump is far worse than the worst of any of them. Trump is also a racist asset of Russian intelligence personally profiting through the degradation of the office of the Presidency. He is actively undermining long standing American interests throughout the world in the promotion of democracy and the eradication of corruption. Interests that historically enjoyed strong bipartisan support. But there is more: Trump is a clear and present danger to the rule of law and our system of government. Trump doesn't simply normalize the worst of the worst American politician...he belongs in different class: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/12/opinion/mr-president-your-toga-is-showing.html?_r=0
Are you attempting to argue with me about Trump? I can't stand the man even a little bit.
 
Ridiculous. Trump is the biggest liar ever elected President and probably the biggest sleazebag too. If anything he's "normalizing" Bill Clinton who was a womanizing liar, but now he looks like a pretty great guy.
Comparing political talent, political experience, ability to accomplish something in life on one's own and intelligence between Bill Clinton and Donald Trump is like comparing Michael Jordan to a sixth grade player. A person with Bill Clinton's resume is somebody who is qualified to be POTUS, and his resume is the polar opposite of DJT.
 
Are you attempting to argue with me about Trump? I can't stand the man even a little bit.
I am attempting to make sure that Trump is not normalized...can you think of a politician in either party who would be worse in office than Trump? Who would it be?
 
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I am attempting to make sure that Trump is not normalized...can you think of a politician in either party who would be worse in office than Trump? Who would it be?
It would take a lot of effort to find a politician that would be worse than Trump and I see no need to make the effort.
 
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I am attempting to make sure that Trump is not normalized...can you think of a politician in either party who would be worse in office than Trump? Who would it be?
It would take a lot of effort to find a politician that would be worse than Trump and I see no need to make the effort.

Pfft... that's easy! Roy Moore!
 
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ne...tional-cathedral-prayer-service-lineup-e.html
https://www.christianpost.com/news/...bout-standing-up-for-christian-values-146913/
The above articles point to a man who is reaching out to Bible believing Christians. Would the 2006 Donald Trump do this? I don't know. But today's Trump is doing so. There was another article which points to today's Trump. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...e-house-christianity-government-a7871556.html
This article says both Trump and the woman deny report. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/12/trump-affair-adult-film-star-stormy-daniels
What is true? I dunno. But as always it is smart not to jump to conclusions too quickly.
No. If Trump is really reaching out to “Bible believing Christians”, he’s not paying attention to what “Bible believing Christians” say they stand for.

It’s far more likely he’s doing nothing more than reaching out to their votes by claiming he’s one of them.
 
No. If Trump is really reaching out to “Bible believing Christians”, he’s not paying attention to what “Bible believing Christians” say they stand for.

It’s far more likely he’s doing nothing more than reaching out to their votes by claiming he’s one of them.
They don't really care if he is one of them - that's just window dressing. He is giving them two things that they want more than anything else:

1. Conservative judges
2. Proximity to power.
 
Ted Cruz is not a Russian stooge, is not mobbed up, is not an imbecile...on what dimension is Trump better than Cruz that matters? Trump is worse than Cruz on many dimensions that do matter.
Cruz might be competent. That's not a good quality for a man with his positions. As dangerous as Trump is, I'd still take Trump over Cruz all week and twice on whatever day it is you're supposed to take things twice on.
 
No. If Trump is really reaching out to “Bible believing Christians”, he’s not paying attention to what “Bible believing Christians” say they stand for.

It’s far more likely he’s doing nothing more than reaching out to their votes by claiming he’s one of them.
If Trump was having sex in the oval office like Clinton did then I would agree with you he hasn't changed. We can only judge people by what they do and say. And the truth is some or all of these allegations might not be true. Who knows? We don't know.
 
They don't really care if he is one of them - that's just window dressing. He is giving them two things that they want more than anything else:

1. Conservative judges
2. Proximity to power.
How am I close to power? Do I believe conservative judges protect our rights given to us by the constitution better than judges that read into the original intent and pervert it? Yes. I don't think most conservative Christians have to have a Christian president. But we do want good presidents who believe in the country as originally founded. Remember there are Christians who are democrats. I've always had both parties in my church.
 
How am I close to power? Do I believe conservative judges protect our rights given to us by the constitution better than judges that read into the original intent and pervert it? Yes. I don't think most conservative Christians have to have a Christian president. But we do want good presidents who believe in the country as originally founded. Remember there are Christians who are democrats. I've always had both parties in my church.
Well enjoy your President who has had multiple affairs and paid off multiple porn stars and likes grabbing women by the pussy.
 
Cruz might be competent. That's not a good quality for a man with his positions. As dangerous as Trump is, I'd still take Trump over Cruz all week and twice on whatever day it is you're supposed to take things twice on.

There is nothing radical about Cruz's positions. He's just a conservative.

To say he wouldn't be a better POTUS than Trump is silly.
 
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Ridiculous. Trump is the biggest liar ever elected President and probably the biggest sleazebag too. If anything he's "normalizing" Bill Clinton who was a womanizing liar, but now he looks like a pretty great guy.

i fear the effect has been the reverse . . . Clinton's predilections have normalized Trump for Republican voters. How many times have we heard from NPT and others on this board "well, y'all do it too!".

As a result, it's hard to find much about Republican politicians to respect, much less admire . . . "character" means something entirely different from what it meant when Dole ran against Bill and W ran against Gore.
 
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Trump apparently forgot to pay off one of his porn stars: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-evans-stormy-daniels-report?CMP=share_btn_tw

My favorite bit:

According to Evans, Daniels, at the time of her alleged encounter with Trump, said: “All I’m going to say is: I ended up with Donald in his hotel room. Picture him chasing me around his hotel room in his tighty-whities.”​
I am sure a judge would laugh you out of court if you presented a guardian article as proof in a defense case.
 
Trump apparently forgot to pay off one of his porn stars: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-evans-stormy-daniels-report?CMP=share_btn_tw

My favorite bit:

According to Evans, Daniels, at the time of her alleged encounter with Trump, said: “All I’m going to say is: I ended up with Donald in his hotel room. Picture him chasing me around his hotel room in his tighty-whities.”​
Let's see...two porn stars with NDAs mentioned in that article alone...
 
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ne...tional-cathedral-prayer-service-lineup-e.html
https://www.christianpost.com/news/...bout-standing-up-for-christian-values-146913/
The above articles point to a man who is reaching out to Bible believing Christians. Would the 2006 Donald Trump do this? I don't know. But today's Trump is doing so. There was another article which points to today's Trump. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...e-house-christianity-government-a7871556.html
This article says both Trump and the woman deny report. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/12/trump-affair-adult-film-star-stormy-daniels
What is true? I dunno. But as always it is smart not to jump to conclusions too quickly.

Pure unadulterated idolatry.
 
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Well enjoy your President who has had multiple affairs and paid off multiple porn stars and likes grabbing women by the pussy.
I would rather he grab them by the pussy, than grabbing them by the dick:confused:
 
Dude, I'm an estate planner. My litigation skills basically amount to, "Your honor, I ask that you take judicial notice that this person is, in fact, dead."*

*NB - that's not actually good litigation.
“Dude “where’s my car is so out of date, Quit living at the turn of the century :p
 
Yes. I don't think most conservative Christians have to have a Christian president. But we do want good presidents who believe in the country as originally founded.
This always cracks me up. Yeah, we want a country run by a slaveholding landed aristocracy in conjunction with international moneyed interests.
 
Trump apparently forgot to pay off one of his porn stars: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-evans-stormy-daniels-report?CMP=share_btn_tw

My favorite bit:

According to Evans, Daniels, at the time of her alleged encounter with Trump, said: “All I’m going to say is: I ended up with Donald in his hotel room. Picture him chasing me around his hotel room in his tighty-whities.”​

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