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Are you kidding? He was arrested for robbery.
You should lay off the crack pipe.Redshirt him-unless there is a pattern of behavior? If he needs help-let’s get him help. If he can play-give him a shot somehow.
Unless there is something really unique I think this would be a total reversal of CTA's approach to date.Redshirt him-unless there is a pattern of behavior? If he needs help-let’s get him help. If he can play-give him a shot somehow.
He’s a kid. Made a mistake. Life is about second chancesAre you kidding? He was arrested for robbery.
He’s a kid. Made a mistake. Life is about second chances
Do you have any idea what kind of liability the University would have if he was brought on campus and committed a crime or engaged in an activity that injured someone?
Four additional words;I have two words for all you do-gooders: Antonio Allen
No thank you. Stole guns and a car. Not the kind of kid we want in this program. Hard pass.He’s a kid. Made a mistake. Life is about second chances
Crack pipe? A little extreme don’t you think? Do you know anything about the kid? From the release, seems out of character. ND recruits pretty high character kids I think. You probably never have needed a second chance though I’m sure.You should lay off the crack pipe.
What do you know about Antonio Allen in HS? I had kids at Ben Davis-did you? I don’t recall him being in trouble in HS.I have two words for all you do-gooders: Antonio Allen
It is not like he got caught drinking or shoplifting. Good lord these charges are serious. Let someone else give the second chance.Crack pipe? A little extreme don’t you think? Do you know anything about the kid? From the release, seems out of character. ND recruits pretty high character kids I think. You probably never have needed a second chance though I’m sure.
It is not like he got caught drinking or shoplifting. Good lord these charges are serious. Let someone else give the second chance.
No! Life is about choices, & making the right ones. Robbery is not a "mistake". Causing an auto accident which results in fatalities as a result of speeding, is a mistake. There is a very clear difference between the 2, & differences between those who do & don't "deserve" 2nd chances. I'm not saying someone from his category cannot EARN a 2nd chance, but they do not deserve one simply because they're human & they need or want one. Life is about not putting yourself into position to need a 2nd chance.He’s a kid. Made a mistake. Life is about second chances
One good thing about being a member of the Prison Football Team. You only play Home Games.That kid is being charged as an adult and his next football opportunity will be playing in the Southern Penal League...
He might get a shot at a workout for the Las Vegas Raiders 3 to 5 years from now...
Here is something you aren't getting. The kid is 18 and got caught with 2 16 year olds. As the oldest one, he is supposed to be the leader and the more mature person in that group. Do you really want that type of leadership and lack of judgment anywhere near your football team? A kid like this could be a real cancer and take other players down with him.Redshirt him-unless there is a pattern of behavior? If he needs help-let’s get him help. If he can play-give him a shot somehow.
No, if there ever was a Louisville kid, this is one.I also have two words for Bartleson: Michigan State! LOL.
He’s a three star with offers from every top program. Might as well be a 4*the kid is only a 3 Star. Many keep complaining that we don't get enough 4 or 5 Star Recruits. You can always find a 3 Star Corner Back with as much ability, no current baggage, and much less potential to cause huge problems for your program once on Campus.
Antonio Allen got a second chance to play football when he got kicked out of Indiana. Does anybody remember what happened?What do you know about Antonio Allen in HS? I had kids at Ben Davis-did you? I don’t recall him being in trouble in HS.
Answer the question please? You are bashing the kid pre-IU right? Do you have any links for his earlier years?Antonio Allen got a second chance to play football when he got kicked out of Indiana. Does anybody remember what happened?
https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...ntonio-allen-arrested-marion-county/95256628/
No-it looks like he is pointing out that Allen had serious trouble again after IU. He got his 2nd chance and failed in spectacular fashion.Answer the question please? You are bashing the kid pre-IU right? Do you have any links for his earlier years?
I respectfully disagree with your "legal analysis". If the University had full prior knowledge of specific previous Illegal activity, and that illegal activity or comparable activity continued on campus, resulting in harm to another student, as a Lawyer, I would file Civil Suit against the perpetrator and the University, particularly if the individual were admitted because he was an athlete and would not have been admitted otherwise. So if you have somebody who committed a crime involving possession or use of a weapon, and you admit them and they commit a robbery or battery or assault with a weapon, why shouldn't the Institution be responsible?100% a hard pass.
If he gets through this, he'll have a 2nd chance somewhere. But I'd prefer it not be IU. Frankly, the team isn't talented enough to flirt with trouble like that and how much it could bring down some kids. I don't recall any players on the team being arrested this year, certainly not for major felonies. That's a streak I'd like to see continue.
**Edit** And, legal opinion, the school wouldn't have much to any liability for bringing in a "bad" kid and the kid subsequently hurt someone. As a general rule, the school would have to really do something to enable that kind of behavior before they'd be held responsible for a student's actions. Students get accused of terrible crimes (e.g. rape) every year and the school doesn't get sued just because they admitted them.
You make it sound like someone was hurt during this event. No was injured. Kids take stuff that isn’t theirs all the timeI respectfully disagree with your "legal analysis". If the University had full prior knowledge of specific previous Illegal activity, and that illegal activity or comparable activity continued on campus, resulting in harm to another student, as a Lawyer, I would file Civil Suit against the perpetrator and the University, particularly if the individual were admitted because he was an athlete and would not have been admitted otherwise. So if you have somebody who committed a crime involving possession or use of a weapon, and you admit them and they commit a robbery or battery or assault with a weapon, why shouldn't the Institution be responsible?
If you want to play Father Flannigan to the kid, you better provide a 24/7 Baby Sitter and have him under surveillance at all times. Leave that work for someone who is specifically designed to provide it.
I respectfully disagree with your "legal analysis". If the University had full prior knowledge of specific previous Illegal activity, and that illegal activity or comparable activity continued on campus, resulting in harm to another student, as a Lawyer, I would file Civil Suit against the perpetrator and the University, particularly if the individual were admitted because he was an athlete and would not have been admitted otherwise. So if you have somebody who committed a crime involving possession or use of a weapon, and you admit them and they commit a robbery or battery or assault with a weapon, why shouldn't the Institution be responsible?
If you want to play Father Flannigan to the kid, you better provide a 24/7 Baby Sitter and have him under surveillance at all times. Leave that work for someone who is specifically designed to provide it.
Solid trolling.You make it sound like someone was hurt during this event. No was injured. Kids take stuff that isn’t theirs all the time
If he's convicted of all he's being accused of, he won't see normal society until he's in his 30s.
See comment about do-goodersHe’s a kid. Made a mistake. Life is about second chances
You should lay off the crack pipe.