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Names on the back of jerseys...

Here were some coaches over the years and their beliefs. Hard to argue with some of these:

I am not a name-on-the-back-of-the-jersey guy,” Coach Randy Edsall told Eric Prisbell. “To me, it’s all about the name on the front. It’s all about Maryland. To me, it’s about being a team and let’s just worry about being Maryland and taking care of business that way. It’s a team sport we are playing. It is not an individual sport.”

“I’m just a firm believer that you play for what’s on the front of the jersey,” Edsall said this week, via the Baltimore Sun, while noting that the names are hard to read from the stands anyhow. “When we’re long gone, Maryland is still going to be here, and that’s what it’s all about.”

Addazio told fans during his chat on SportsNation that Boston College is "going to take our names off of the back of the jerseys, so we stand as one."

“When I became the coach, I really liked the tradition or what they were calling the throwback jerseys,” said the Virginia head coach. “The throwback jerseys, when I came, what I inherited, did not have names on the back.I guess symbolic, some of the tradition from before is what I assumed.


“The players also really like those jerseys and so we kind of just took them as is and I never really revisited it. I’ve been asked by a couple of folks why, there wasn’t another reason than I just assumed that was the traditional UVA look from that jersey style.”

“We will return Cowboy football back to our roots," Bohl declared at halftime of a men's basketball game on Jan. 18, followed by a roar of ecstatic applause. "I'm making this promise: when we come running down that ramp, you will recognize the colors we wear. We'll wear brown and gold, and the days of all these other colors are over!"

Bohl emphasized the last word, sticking his hand in the air and giving the Arena-Auditorium crowd an emphatic thumbs up.

And in that moment, the camouflage uniform -- and the philosophy it represented -- was officially dead.

Bohl is an old-school coach with an old-school scheme and, visually, the Cowboys will represent that.

Does this mean that a potential recruit may compare the chrome helmets or anthracite pants of a rival with Wyoming's simplicity, and choose the competitor?

Sure.

But would that recruit really fit Bohl's "Wyoming profile"?

In recruiting, Bohl isn't searching for the best athlete. He's trying to find the right one. He wants that blue collar guy who greets contact with a smile. He seeks the big, physical linebacker who chases down ball carriers, then spits out blood.”

Oh, and for those not paying attention, more recruits have actually asked about the lack of a mascot than they have the uniforms or the size of the weight room. Some commented it was “odd.”

So, for many of you guys touting the names on the jerseys, you are the same ones against the mascot idea.....and recruits have noticed it.
One commented “behind the times.”
 
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Many on this thread just don't get it. You can argue all you want about it.
One thing you cannot argue is this will be used against IU big time in recruiting. And we need every ounce of recruiting mojo we can get.
Bottom line is this will make IU a weaker program via some kids will not come here.
This is a huge deal to 17, 18 year olds. Especially this generation !!
Idk about HUGE deal, but it certainly won't help. & it will likely hurt, to a point. What irritates me the most is how we(the IUAD leadership, now & in recent...decades)are so out of touch with contemporary thinking. Contemporary LIFE, for crying out loud. Consistently so. I mean by this logic, each player should be nameless, literally. It should be announced as Indiana QB turns & hands to the Indiana RB # whatever....Indiana QB # 9 passes to Indiana WR # 15. Seriously. That's what the "spirit" of this decision calls for, that would be consistent with it. I understand the idea behind it, but it's just unnecessary & imo silly, & not entirely true, anyway. IT IS in part about the names on the back, it IS partly about individuals who deserve the chance to earn recognition. ESPECIALLY in the 21st century, whether FG likes it or not, whether ANYONE likes it or not, that is reality. Would they rather have it their way & lose? Or have it the social norm & have a chance to win? Besides, the spirit they're looking for already has a name: LEO, that's the "brand"(goodness I hate that word)that we're trying to build. Enough preaching out of me, it's just frustrating.
 
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Idk about HUGE deal, but it certainly won't help. & it will likely hurt, to a point. What irritate me the most is how we(the IUAD leadership, now & in recent...decades)are so out of touch with contemporary thinking. Contemporary LIFE, for crying out loud. Consistently so. I mean by this logic, each player should be nameless, literally. It should be announced as Indiana QB turns & hands to the Indiana RB # whatever....Indiana QB # 9 passes to Indiana WR # 15. Seriously. That's what the "spirit" of this decision calls for, that would be consistent with it. I understand the idea behind it, but it's just unnecessary & imo silly, & not entirely true, anyway. IT IS in part about the names on the back, it IS partly about individuals who deserve the chance to earn recognition. ESPECIALLY in the 21st century, whether FG likes it or not, whether ANYONE likes it or not, that is reality. Would they rather have it their way & lose? Or have it the social norm & have a chance to win? Besides, the spirit they're looking for already has a name: LEO, that's the "brand"(goodness I hate that word)that we're trying to build. Enough preaching out of me, it's just frustrating.

I don't have strong feelings on this. As far as watching the games I'm sure I'll learn the numbers a bit better and the announcers let you know who is who for the most part. I don't think the recognition for good play is an issue at all. Barkley at PSU didn't have his name on his back and I think he did just fine. I cant really see it having an impact on recruiting as that concern should be way down the list. As for the former players that have voiced their concern, how many winning seasons did we have with them? That is not a knock on them at all as Ogunleye has always been one of my favorites. I think it is probably a bit naive to think it is going to change attitudes but i really don't see it being worth all the hand wringing. I could be wrong and will wait to see how it all works out before walking to the edge of the abyss.
 
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Think announcing this 2 days before first game was not smart. People don’t love change, especially one not communicated well beforehand, just sprung on the fan base.

I give Glass higher marks for most everything happening these days. I just think he had good intentions but not well thought about or executed. Don’t think this was a needed move and bummed he did it. I know it shouldn’t be “life or death” issue, but just hate to see what I see as an unnecessary & unforced error.

Still love the Hoosiers but would love to see them add back the names.
 
I don't know why people make a big deal about putting the names on the back of the jersey. That alone does not make the player automatically play for him/herself over the team. It goes back to Knight saying that, and imo, if Knight said it, we should do the opposite and put the names on the back.
 
I don't have strong feelings on this. As far as watching the games I'm sure I'll learn the numbers a bit better and the announcers let you know who is who for the most part. I don't think the recognition for good play is an issue at all. Barkley at PSU didn't have his name on his back and I think he did just fine. I cant really see it having an impact on recruiting as that concern should be way down the list. As for the former players that have voiced their concern, how many winning seasons did we have with them? That is not a knock on them at all as Ogunleye has always been one of my favorites. I think it is probably a bit naive to think it is going to change attitudes but i really don't see it being worth all the hand wringing. I could be wrong and will wait to see how it all works out before walking to the edge of the abyss.

First, this doesn't affect people like Saquon Barkley or Trace McSorley. It affects DE #48. Next, WTH does the combined record of the former players have to do with their opinion? Harrison played in the NFL, Adewale is our all time sack leader, and Fant is our all time leader in passes defended. They may not be IU football royalty, but they're pretty close. They may not have won the Rose Bowl while they were here, but Harrison and Fant played on some of best Indiana teams of the past 50 years. Again, this goes back to throwing our own under the bus as a way of discrediting their dissenting opinion...which I do not understand in the slightest.
 
I’ll tell you who else is not going to like it. The play-by-play guys. Fish is going to be lost. And since you are showing your age in the old days there were only 11 guys and they played on both sides of he ball.;)

Also back in the good old days games were rarely televised. Names on jerseys make it easier for the television audience to follow. It helps with fans and it helps with recruiting. They don’t mail out programs to watch on tv.
You really think Fisch can really see the names on the back of the jersey from that far up in the press box.
 
What is the world coming to if a recruit chooses a school because they have their name on the back of the jersey. To me this is indictment on this generation if they care care more about their name on the jersey and playing for the team. If they eliminate a school base solely if you don't have your name on the jersey then we don't want that player.
 
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First, this doesn't affect people like Saquon Barkley or Trace McSorley. It affects DE #48. Next, WTH does the combined record of the former players have to do with their opinion? Harrison played in the NFL, Adewale is our all time sack leader, and Fant is our all time leader in passes defended. They may not be IU football royalty, but they're pretty close. They may not have won the Rose Bowl while they were here, but Harrison and Fant played on some of best Indiana teams of the past 50 years. Again, this goes back to throwing our own under the bus as a way of discrediting their dissenting opinion...which I do not understand in the slightest.

As I said, i was not knocking those players or their contributions. What it has to do with is what does it hurt to do the opposite when what you are doing is not working? If number 48 wants everyone to know his name he needs to work harder and play better. Play for a mac team if the name on your jersey is the only way you want recognition. This really isn't worth arguing about to me but you are purposely misrepresenting my post to make your case.
 
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My last comments on the subject. The names on the back are obviously important to some folks who have played at IU. Not sure anyone who has commented here has ever been in that position. Does a kid decide to go elsewhere solely because his name is not on the back of his uniform? Probably not. However, in a close decision between IU and school X, you can bet that school X coaches will be pointing to all the things that "demonstrate" IU's failure to recognize or support its football players. "Hey, just remember, we dedicate facilities for football players that you don't have to share and we want you recognized when you are representing us, so your name will be on your uniform for the country to see. We are all in on our football players and IU is just a basketball school who plays some football" If you don't think that will be added to the list of "why we are more concerned and attentive than IU" I really don't think you have been around many 17 and 18 year old athletes recently. My point is: we have little or no tradition supporting this decision (we are not PSU) so why, for no good reason other than this 24-1 thing, should we put a possible talking point, no matter how big or small, in the hands of people recruiting against us.
 
I totally get the spirit of the decision...and really won't be cornered into disagreeing...

I will say...kids get into football, even basketball games...where I don't know their number.

So...I'll have my roster handy...in any case.
I don't really care so much about the name thing
because I always ask my wife, "who was that?" and
her reply of Luke Timian is much more informative
than #25.
 
My last comments on the subject. The names on the back are obviously important to some folks who have played at IU. Not sure anyone who has commented here has ever been in that position. Does a kid decide to go elsewhere solely because his name is not on the back of his uniform? Probably not. However, in a close decision between IU and school X, you can bet that school X coaches will be pointing to all the things that "demonstrate" IU's failure to recognize or support its football players. "Hey, just remember, we dedicate facilities for football players that you don't have to share and we want you recognized when you are representing us, so your name will be on your uniform for the country to see. We are all in on our football players and IU is just a basketball school who plays some football" If you don't think that will be added to the list of "why we are more concerned and attentive than IU" I really don't think you have been around many 17 and 18 year old athletes recently. My point is: we have little or no tradition supporting this decision (we are not PSU) so why, for no good reason other than this 24-1 thing, should we put a possible talking point, no matter how big or small, in the hands of people recruiting against us.
One would think / hope that the players had at least some say in this, rather than it being unilaterally decided by their coach or AD.
 
Well, it’s unfortunate if they didn’t at least solicit input from the players. If the overreaching theme at IU is “Team”, leaving out the players’ input would go against that.
It is not a democracy. Unless you are the President or CEO where you work; are all workplace decisions based on a popular vote of all employee's?
 
I still like to weigh in...think this decision was "good intentions, bad execution." Certainly not communicated well, don't think the stakeholders like it and for truly pure fans watching & practical purposes, why make it harder to easily know who's who? It wasn't necessary is the bottom line!

Would love to see Fred just say "We hear you, we get it, names going back on. Next topic" and if he did, I hope many would come to his defense for listening versus bashing him for doing it in the first place.
 
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It is not a democracy. Unless you are the President or CEO where you work; are all workplace decisions based on a popular vote of all employee's?
This line of thinking presupposes that an average workplace model is a healthy model
Yeah, they need to run things like a business. You can see how well that's worked out with the White House.
 
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It is not a democracy. Unless you are the President or CEO where you work; are all workplace decisions based on a popular vote of all employee's?
We don’t vote on everything but we do make a concerted effort to include employees in the decision making process, wherever practicable.Greater involvement generally results in greater buy in and a generally more collaborative environment, at least in my experience.
 
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Yeah, they need to run things like a business. You can see how well that's worked out with the White House.
College athletics is a business, and why try to make this political? I can name you many businesses that are run as a business and are very successful, but you choose to use the government as an example?
 
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We don’t vote on everything but we do make a concerted effort to include employees in the decision making process, wherever practice. Greater involvement generally results in greater buy in and a generally more collaborative environment, at least in my experience.
True, but most work environments are not manned by 18-23 year old's whose working career at the university consists of 4 to 5 years.
 
First, this doesn't affect people like Saquon Barkley or Trace McSorley. It affects DE #48. Next, WTH does the combined record of the former players have to do with their opinion? Harrison played in the NFL, Adewale is our all time sack leader, and Fant is our all time leader in passes defended. They may not be IU football royalty, but they're pretty close. They may not have won the Rose Bowl while they were here, but Harrison and Fant played on some of best Indiana teams of the past 50 years. Again, this goes back to throwing our own under the bus as a way of discrediting their dissenting opinion...which I do not understand in the slightest.
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Very simply, I’d prefer the names on the back, but don’t really think it’s a big deal. In the case of recruiting, the team can always go back to the jerseys with names on the back. But if recruits really use that as a deal breaker, heaven help this generation.
 
I don’t know who is who and neither do to the CBS announcers. Combined with any empty stadium this really sucks.
 
Thank you! Fred Glass, I support you but this is RIDICULOUS. I do t have every played memorized by number! Jerseys look blank on back.

Just do the right thing and change the damn jersey idea next week! Why make a problem where one doesn’t exist?? Last thing you need is bad will when you could have so much good will!
 
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