Are democrats really going to support this cancel culture continuing? And yea, I know I am using a term you don’t like. So cancel me.
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What do Democrats have to do with Amazon's decisions? Are Republicans going to support "cancel culture" when Lou Dobbs was fired from Fox News?
You have very serious anger issues. Get help.
You have very serious anger issues. Get help.
They (Amazon) even pulled the video about Clarence Thomas from their lineup during Black History month because the guy isn't a Democrat. Not a peep from the left!
This kind of censorship used to only go on in Nazi Germany and later in communist countries... Now..., with the ascendancy of the National Democratic (socialist) Party it has reached America...
The left should be ashamed (but they aren't)...
Don't do business with Amazon, then. It's your choice. Buy the books elsewhere. Amazon is not a political party. It's a business.
Is it censorship if a religious bookstore refuses to sell books on atheism? No, it is only censorship if the government intervenes. It is free enterprise if a business says no.
Should Amazon sell it, yes. Find an online petition and I will sign it.
But are you comfortable with the government telling Amazon what they must sell?
Should Amazon sell it, yes. Find an online petition and I will sign it.
But are you comfortable with the government telling Amazon what they must sell?
You've already cancelled any integrity and probity you probably never had by becoming just another whack job spewing dumb shit ....
There's nothing we can do to you worse than what you have already done to yourself.
Just what I expected from liberals but I didn’t expect from you. This tells me we can assume no democrats will stand up to these tactics.
What was your opinion of what happened to the bakery that didn’t want to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding?
And before you start the homophobe chant against me, I quickly accepted an appointment and prepared returns for two gay men in my high school class a few years ago. After the first appointment they thanked me for the kindness and respect I treated them with. I do their return yet today.
Amazon has transcended simple bookstore status and you know it.
I generally care what people think. I could care less what you think.
Do you participate in the occult?
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Does that matter in the least, they are a company. Are you saying the government has the power to tell companies what they can sell.
Amazon has a policy about selling things they deem hate speech. They don't have to sell any book if they don't want to. However, you can buy it at Barnes and Noble and other fine retailers, listed here:
You're welcome.
When Harry became Sally where to buy it - Google Shopping
www.google.com
You're welcome.
I don't know. Contact the Amazon customer service department. It's their company, not mine.
Wasn't that the whole basis of the wedding cake debate?
In the US, companies can do as they please as long as it's legal. When did you become a communist? You really want the US government telling companies what they can and can't do?
I haven't heard a peep from you about Hobby Lobby. Call their customer service department about all their craziness.
16 of the biggest controversies in Hobby Lobby's 50-year history — from denying contraceptives for employees to illegally smuggling ancient tablets
We took a closer look at the craft store company's biggest scandals in the five decades since it was founded by its controversial CEO David Green.
www.businessinsider.com
Quite frankly, I won't take my business to Hobby Lobby...but that's MY business. And you're not required to buy anything at Amazon.
I am just asking if you think it’s okay for the bakery to discriminate?
In the US, companies can do as they please as long as it's legal. When did you become a communist? You really want the US government telling companies what they can and can't do?
I haven't heard a peep from you about Hobby Lobby. Call their customer service department about all their craziness.
16 of the biggest controversies in Hobby Lobby's 50-year history — from denying contraceptives for employees to illegally smuggling ancient tablets
We took a closer look at the craft store company's biggest scandals in the five decades since it was founded by its controversial CEO David Green.
Quite frankly, I won't take my business to Hobby Lobby...but that's MY business. And you're not required to buy anything at Amazon.
I don’t buy anything from hobby lobby. Do they discriminate against liberals?
Now you're moving on from Amazon to "bakeries"? LOL.
Take a chill pill...and settle down. Take a walk. Get some ice cream. Throw the ball around with your kids. Good lord, getting angry about what a private company sells is going to do nothing but make your blood boil.
No it wasn’t. You’ll need to split more hairs to get to the basis of that debate.
Here is the central question, and yet all the conservatives, who hate big government intervention in business, are ignoring it, as if it will go away. Instead, stoll pivoted from the main debate, which he started a thread about, to throw a counter punch at TMP, secretly pleased for the diversion.
So, should the government be allowed to tell Amazon what it can sell, and what it can pull from Its shelves?
Cricket time.
No. Gov intervention is censorship. Private institutions can censor but in my view while still censorship that’s their capitalistic decision. The former I’m not okay with (regulation) and the latter I am okay with tho I don’t like it.
I hate cancel culture. And I believe it’s real. But as long as it’s private it just impacts our choices re whom we do or don’t do business. It’s perfectly lawful. When the gov intercedes the story changes
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I agree. Every decision made by big companies is the result of risk/reward analysis. If Amazon thought the financial reward of selling the book outweighed the potential costs of the backlash, that book would remain front and center.
It's called capitolism (just kidding...capitalism).
So, this thread is nothing but stollbait?
Biz rarely has a social conscience - only an angle to make more dough.
For sure. Many people don’t care. I’d sell Q shirts if it got me a big spread on the water. I don’t care.
Of course government should have that authority. As I write this the debate rages about what kind of firearms a business can sell. It’s a good debate. Like everything government does, its action flows from a balancing exercise from hearing and considering competing ideas. The real danger is that we are losing the ability to do that as “compromise” has become a dirty word. More and more legislation is rammed through on strictly partisan votes. Now, the left has the upper hand in not only government, but in culture as the forces the left uses to silence opposing ideas are at unprecedented levels. It’s efforts in elementary school are particularly egregious. That is very dangerous and ought to worry all of us.
While comparisons to Nazi Germany are often overstated, I think a comparison here is useful. In the years leading up to WWII the Nazis whipped up Jew hatred by a persuasive propaganda effort that painted Jews as destructive vermin. That propaganda was addressed to children and adults in an unrelenting fashion. That worked. Here and now, the left is painting large segments of society (Trumpists) as evil racists, purveyors of false information, or insurrectionists. Those factors mostly rest on falsehoods and myths. We can’t allow that to work.
I tend to agree with you.
I would point out that one can buy Mein Kampf and The Anarchist Cookbook on Amazon right now. It’s kind of weird that they deemed this book worse than either of those, especially since it’s a bestseller.
I haven’t been able to find a statement from Amazon on this and they’re taking a boat load of well deserved criticism over it. I imagine they’ll be walking this back shortly.
I guess it’s a case study on the dangers of having to many loons in the boardroom.
So, you threw guns and Nazis at the debate? No kitchen sink?
A response to COH's post, quoted below:
"Of course government should have that authority. As I write this the debate rages about what kind of firearms a business can sell. It’s a good debate. Like everything government does, its action flows from a balancing exercise from hearing and considering competing ideas. The real danger is that we are losing the ability to do that as “compromise” has become a dirty word. More and more legislation is rammed through on strictly partisan votes. Now, the left has the upper hand in not only government, but in culture as the forces the left uses to silence opposing ideas are at unprecedented levels. It’s efforts in elementary school are particularly egregious. That is very dangerous and ought to worry all of us.
While comparisons to Nazi Germany are often overstated, I think a comparison here is useful. In the years leading up to WWII the Nazis whipped up Jew hatred by a persuasive propaganda effort that painted Jews as destructive vermin. That propaganda was addressed to children and adults in an unrelenting fashion. That worked. Here and now, the left is painting large segments of society (Trumpists) as evil racists, purveyors of false information, or insurrectionists. Those factors mostly rest on falsehoods and myths. We can’t allow that to work."
A response to COH's post, quoted below:
"Of course government should have that authority. As I write this the debate rages about what kind of firearms a business can sell. It’s a good debate. Like everything government does, its action flows from a balancing exercise from hearing and considering competing ideas. The real danger is that we are losing the ability to do that as “compromise” has become a dirty word. More and more legislation is rammed through on strictly partisan votes. Now, the left has the upper hand in not only government, but in culture as the forces the left uses to silence opposing ideas are at unprecedented levels. It’s efforts in elementary school are particularly egregious. That is very dangerous and ought to worry all of us.
While comparisons to Nazi Germany are often overstated, I think a comparison here is useful. In the years leading up to WWII the Nazis whipped up Jew hatred by a persuasive propaganda effort that painted Jews as destructive vermin. That propaganda was addressed to children and adults in an unrelenting fashion. That worked. Here and now, the left is painting large segments of society (Trumpists) as evil racists, purveyors of false information, or insurrectionists. Those factors mostly rest on falsehoods and myths. We can’t allow that to work."
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And if they walk it back, it will be for financial reasons.
Capitalism.
Drinking early?
I agree with McMurtry. I don’t have an issue with what Amazon did. They’re free to be as dumb as they like.
When it affects their bottom line, which I’m sure it already is, they’ll step back toward sanity.
Pointing out the hypocrisy is just fun.
No it’s censorship. Just private censorship. And I’m so in shock over bale’s performance today that I’m having problems processing but from skimming the facts it looked like censorship. Just permissible censorship imo.
No, I don’t agree with that. Seems like that would create a whole new set of problems while arguably not fixing the problem it’s meant to address.
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