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Mitch Daniels

He was the right guy at the right time for them as pu was in a financial management mess. He fixed that. I always though five years was the right timeline for him. Probably should have stepped out a couple years ago, but he has done a good job overall.
 
Maybe some set of alumni told Mitch to take a hike because of his stance on NIL? It is almost like giving up the attempt to be able to compete in P5 sports. Either you do NIL or you are left way behind. Mitch was very publisc about his opinion NIL was very bad and Purdue is obviously way behind in having an NIL program that will allow them to compete. Lack of NIL puts Brohom and Painter in an even worse spot in the recruiting game. And good players will leave, particularly those players that are good in the college game but may never have the talent to get to the next level for their collegiate services.
 
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The free-thinking clown whose emails to his staff (2010 while still governor) in which he rants and raves against the writings of Howard Zinn, author of People's History of the United States and other books.
Perfect for a university president where freedom of ideas and speech should be paramount.
I agree, a cuckold
 
Academics, reputation, rankings. This is a bball forum but it's not hard to see a perception that the schools are heading in different directions.
Anything to back these claims up because Mitch's (who I have known since the Lilly days) primary legacy in WL is insitutional financial management. IU's reputation is stellar globally.
 
Anything to back these claims up because Mitch's (who I have known since the Lilly days) primary legacy in WL is insitutional financial management. IU's reputation is stellar globally.
Nothing concrete to share. With two IU degrees, I hope you are correct regarding IU's reputation.
 
Anything to back these claims up because Mitch's (who I have known since the Lilly days) primary legacy in WL is insitutional financial management. IU's reputation is stellar globally.
I agree with this -- and there aren't many people who have a higher opinion of Mitch Daniels than I do. In fact, I bet Daniels himself would agree with it.

I think what he's done there has been remarkable. But I also think it's shooting BBs at battleships (which, frankly, is much better than can be said about most university leaders) WRT to tackling the unsustainable divergence between the cost to obtain a college degree and the NPV of the marginal gains likely to be realized by having it.

But I don't think his legacy is that he turned Purdue into Oxford or anything like that. His legacy will be -- and should be -- that he showed that a world-class university can still be a world-class university, even with costs contained enough to make the tuition more rational to the value of the degrees.
 
I agree with this -- and there aren't many people who have a higher opinion of Mitch Daniels than I do. In fact, I bet Daniels himself would agree with it.

I think what he's done there has been remarkable. But I also think it's shooting BBs at battleships (which, frankly, is much better than can be said about most university leaders) WRT to tackling the unsustainable divergence between the cost to obtain a college degree and the NPV of the marginal gains likely to be realized by having it.

But I don't think his legacy is that he turned Purdue into Oxford or anything like that. His legacy will be -- and should be -- that he showed that a world-class university can still be a world-class university, even with costs contained enough to make the tuition more rational to the value of the degrees.
Yhey needed him badly at the time. I didn't think he would stay as long as he has but he fixed a financial mess.
 
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The previous president to Mitch was a disaster. Mitch pulled Purdue out of the athletic toilet, so to speak. More importantly, he did good things for the academic and administrative condition of the university.
 
The previous president to Mitch was a disaster. Mitch pulled Purdue out of the athletic toilet, so to speak. More importantly, he did good things for the academic and administrative condition of the university.
Cordova was interesting because she was, IIRC, an Astrophysicist but not really an academic, more of an administrator. I will let you guys judge her tenure, but I do know that Mitch wanted to fix the fiscal house and he did. IMO the academic side was in pretty good shape as it still is today.
 
Academics, reputation, rankings. This is a bball forum but it's not hard to see a perception that the schools are heading in different directions.
What do you mean by your vague "academics?" IU's reputation (US News peer score) and rankings have been trending up, as have Purdue's. In the most recent US News rankings, IU came in at 68, up from 76 the year before, and its highest ranking in decades. Purdue came in at 49, up from 53 the previous year. IU is the #26 public university, Purdue is the #17 public university. IU's standing in other rankings services (Washington Monthly, Shanghai, Times Higher Ed, Bloomberg, etc.) have (1) been strong and (2) consistently improving over the last few years. Where Purdue and IU have overlapping majors (business, education, communication, liberal arts), IU tends to outperform Purdue. IU's additions of architecture and engineering programs in the last decade will prove to be valuable for students and the university's reputation. Two areas where we have seen some negative trends over the last decade are in law and education. Education looks like it might be starting to recover from a mid-decade decline, but the law school still seems to be trending in the wrong direction.

These are two great schools that are in the same tier. Anyone saying otherwise about either school is completely uninformed. I don't put much weight in rankings, personally. Universities are complex things, and to compare them is really tricky. IU and Purdue are great schools, and they're largely great at different things. But by your own standards of academics, reputation, and rankings, you're flat wrong.
 
Some speculation today that he may run for governor again.

That wouldn’t make my friend Suzanne Crouch very happy.

I think the guy is great and was obviously very popular when he left office. But I wonder how voters would react to a former governor seeking a 3rd term. It’s legal (he’s been out of office more than 4 years), but it’s never been done.
 
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Some speculation today that he may run for governor again.

That wouldn’t make my friend Suzanne Crouch very happy.

I think the guy is great and was obviously very popular when he left office. But I wonder how voters would react to a former governor seeking a 3rd term. It’s legal (he’s been out of office more than 4 years), but it’s never been done.
My speculation is an assumed role as US Sec of Education. Rumor has been around for awhile.
 
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My speculation is an assumed role as US Sec of Education. Rumor has been around for awhile.
Does Miguel Cardona know this? ;)

If President Biden were to choose a school choice pioneer as Secretary of Education, all hell would break loose.

Let’s just say I have a hard time seeing that happen. A different cabinet post, maybe.
 
Does Miguel Cardona know this? ;)

If President Biden were to choose a school choice pioneer as Secretary of Education, all hell would break loose.

Let’s just say I have a hard time seeing that happen. A different cabinet post, maybe.
Mitch has parroted an awful lot of FOX talking points over the years including vaccines, there is going to be pushback on any sort of assignment.
 
I agree with this -- and there aren't many people who have a higher opinion of Mitch Daniels than I do. In fact, I bet Daniels himself would agree with it.

I think what he's done there has been remarkable. But I also think it's shooting BBs at battleships (which, frankly, is much better than can be said about most university leaders) WRT to tackling the unsustainable divergence between the cost to obtain a college degree and the NPV of the marginal gains likely to be realized by having it.

But I don't think his legacy is that he turned Purdue into Oxford or anything like that. His legacy will be -- and should be -- that he showed that a world-class university can still be a world-class university, even with costs contained enough to make the tuition more rational to the value of the degrees.
Props to PU for going outside academia and bringing in someone who was able to apply some conservative sense and right the ship. Mitch did things at PU that no one thought was possible until he did them. He’s very forward thinking for an older dude.
 
The free-thinking clown whose emails to his staff (2010 while still governor) in which he rants and raves against the writings of Howard Zinn, author of People's History of the United States and other books.
Perfect for a university president where freedom of ideas and speech should be paramount.
I agree, a cuckold
“Elite” academia, which is overwhelmingly liberal, has a major blind spot in that they love to promote “freedom of speech and ideas” just as long as that speech and those ideas are consistent with current liberal dogma.

That’s not how that works.
 
What do you mean by your vague "academics?" IU's reputation (US News peer score) and rankings have been trending up, as have Purdue's. In the most recent US News rankings, IU came in at 68, up from 76 the year before, and its highest ranking in decades. Purdue came in at 49, up from 53 the previous year. IU is the #26 public university, Purdue is the #17 public university. IU's standing in other rankings services (Washington Monthly, Shanghai, Times Higher Ed, Bloomberg, etc.) have (1) been strong and (2) consistently improving over the last few years. Where Purdue and IU have overlapping majors (business, education, communication, liberal arts), IU tends to outperform Purdue. IU's additions of architecture and engineering programs in the last decade will prove to be valuable for students and the university's reputation. Two areas where we have seen some negative trends over the last decade are in law and education. Education looks like it might be starting to recover from a mid-decade decline, but the law school still seems to be trending in the wrong direction.

These are two great schools that are in the same tier. Anyone saying otherwise about either school is completely uninformed. I don't put much weight in rankings, personally. Universities are complex things, and to compare them is really tricky. IU and Purdue are great schools, and they're largely great at different things. But by your own standards of academics, reputation, and rankings, you're flat wrong.
I hope you are correct in all this.
 
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