News and notes from Mike Woodson's radio show
“Inside Indiana Basketball with Mike Woodson” returned Monday night as Woodson spoke with play-by-play announcer Don Fischer.
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I especially liked this comment
“It appears that he is enjoying himself as head coach of D1 and/or Indiana his home. Modern 'sensitive' players tend to lack grit & it has to be developed. Just add one more thing the coaches need to teach. CMW gets it. This team is trending upward.”
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“It appears that he is enjoying himself as head coach of D1 and/or Indiana his home. Modern 'sensitive' players tend to lack grit & it has to be developed. Just add one more thing the coaches need to teach. CMW gets it. This team is trending upward.”
http://disq.us/p/2m1zhsf
Every time I listen to Woody talk, I like him more… I honestly just don’t see how we don’t become a really good team on a consistent basis with him at the helm.News and notes from Mike Woodson's radio show
“Inside Indiana Basketball with Mike Woodson” returned Monday night as Woodson spoke with play-by-play announcer Don Fischer.
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Either through some of the weblinks at the top or one of the stations that is listed for coaches shows
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Either through some of the weblinks at the top or one of the stations that is listed for coaches shows
I'm fairly young, I can take a slow steady build...if he continues his upward trend, at the same pace, we'll be contending for B10 titles and FF's in a few years or so...which would be great.
I'm still wary about the offense that he runs. And his teams' overall consistency on the court, especially defensively has left a lot to be desired. But we are trending upwards, and I do like Woody a lot overall.
Hope he can keep it headed in the right direction!
I'm in the minority on here.
I saw him play for the Hoosiers. And he was not just good but about great.
But his coaching. Imo. He's average....About all will go he's better than Miller or Crean . That may be true..But as clownish as Crean was ..He won two outright Big Ten Titles..Woodson has a very small window with his age.I'm for him..But there's no 4 yr All American center. Or a almost lottery pick guard in JHS to lean on..He may do his best coaching this yr if we'd win say 20 games.
I am all in on Mike BUT....... most "Experts" predict IU to finish the BT from 6-9th.
Without mitigating circumstances like last years injuries, that finish would be a failure IMO.
If Mike can't get this team no worse than fourth in the BT then maybe he isn't THE guy.
I want to see a team whose total is greater than the sum of it's parts.
His NBA coaching record was mediocre so it’s no surprise he hasn’t exactly lit the world on fire at IU. We aren’t winning a title under him that’s for sure.
Mike's Senior year was Steve Bouchie's first year. I started watching IU because of Steve since he was our hometown hero. RIP #54.
We aren’t? How would you possibly know that?
Time for you to step up and get the best then. Phil Jackson.
So, put your money where your mouth is. Otherwise STFU.
He has done more for the school in his little finger -- in terms of blood sweat & tears than you ever will your entire life.
Show the man some respect. You owe him that much.
Besides, who are you to judge him other than some keyboard warrior?
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I've softened on this quote since I first read it. But the last paragraph still worries me.
Its just really, really hard to win consistently any more when paint and post scoring as your primary emphasis. He did say you need a blend of other things, but I think his point was clear.
What about the last paragraph worries you?
He said it takes a blend.
Everyone knows that this teams strength is more inside than outside.
Shouldn't a coach play to the team's strength?
Can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. This roster probably isn't going to be a great shooting team, so rather than folks keep hoping magically OK shooters (well, not even OK in Gunn's case, he was 0-2 Sunday so what is he: 2-26 now on 3s; and yes, I know they didn't "count", but...) are suddenly going to start knocking down 40% plus, I like to see that he's trying to compensate and manufacture points from turnovers... something this roster should be good at. And, with the guys he went after in the portal last year, he was very definitely looking to upgrade shooting, we just didn't get those guys, but he did address it in LM. I don't have a certain # of 3s in mind I want to see them take, I just want them to take open 3s they feel good about and find other ways to make up for what is likely going to be average 3 pt shooting.
run an offense that creates more open, rhythm looks, and they'll magically become "better" shooters.
Trey took 68 3's last year, making 46% of them. I'd rather he took 100+, and make 35%. He damn near shot 50%, and very few people are talking about him being a good shooter. Its because he didn't take enough of them.
Xavier took 94 3's in 2021, making 38% of them. I'd rather he took 150, and made 35%.
This is not to mention CJ probably becomes much more of a weapon with more attempts that are within a free flowing offense.
We also "lost out" on quite a few high level perimeter transfers that showed some initial IU interest, and the 2024 board hasn't yet panned out for any guards either...and Woody's style, I'm sure, isn't helping in these recruitments.
Your last sentence is what's wrong with IU's offense...it doesn't create enough open, in rhythm looks, from the outside.
We had a historically good big, that had a historically great and efficient year offensively. We had a couple perimeter guys that shot well over 40% from the three. We had a lottery pick PG capable of getting his own shots. Yet we were mediocre offensively. Hmmmm.... And we got our asses kicked by teams that played more spread out. Hmmmm...
Eventually it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. In an offseason where we did need to add some perimeter players...we ended up adding some high level interior players. That's great, it filled out our roster with capable, athletic, bigs. But eventually he's going to have to buy in to a different style, or he just won't attract enough perimeter talent.
That assessment is a tough way to start out a fun day (Halloween).
I hate that they shortened the shot clock as much as they did. Takes away some of the movement and beauty of team basketball, both offense and defense.
Coaching our best shooters to take more shots should not be a tough assignment. Kids love shooting the rock and scoring.
But I thought the kids moved the ball well in the Ex game. I remain optimistic.
Shots should be taken from what the offense creates with what the D leaves soft.
I believe in CJ as a shooter and hope he proves me right.
Hatchets, I agree with most of what you are saying. I was at IU the same 4 years as Woodson and he will always be my favorite from my school days. What he did coming back from back surgery to lead us over Clark Kellogg and the Bucknuts to win the Big Ten championship in 1980 was nothing short of amazing. He does a lot of things right and I to do question his coaching a little but have 100% faith that he is doing everything to bring the IU men's basketball brand back to the national stage.
I've been parroting this point since it became evident Woody was bought in to this style of offense. And heck, I get it, you try to maximize what you can do, with the guys you have. But I think its fairly proven, at this point, that post and dribble ISO focused offenses haven't worked consistently well for IU in the last couple years...despite having some pretty darn good players to run those types of things.
TJD is an All time great at IU. He was awesome, efficient, dominant. I still wouldn't have started possessions posting him up, screening him in to the post, any of it. It stagnates an offense, it clogs the lane for longer stretches of possessions, and it makes it a lot easier to guard the other 4 guys on the floor. And despite our other guys largely doing their job when the ball came to them...we weren't good or efficient, overall, offensively.
Anyway...still gonna watch. Still gonna cheer them on. I still think we can be pretty good. Just disappointed to hear the stubbornness towards post play...it is going to hold the program back if he is intent on sticking with it.
I don’t owe him anything. He is a freaking coach, not a cutting edge researcher inventing a cure for cancer.
I'm all for what you are saying: basically space better and get good shots and if the good looks are there, take them. I have no hope for any specific # of 3s I want anyone to take, because I only want them taking good shots. I suspect Trey's 3 pt % will drop and probably a fair amount this year. I believe Trey's reputation preceeded him and guys were laying off him because he wasn't known as a good shooter and he was the 3-4th option, even outside. This year I think he'll get a lot more attention from opposing Ds.
I think to some degree you might be wrong. Our best shooters this year have not been known historically known as "good shooters" but this year they'll get way more attention because they are the best shooters we have and, especially in Trey's case, he hit a very high percentage. We don't have TJD to command doubles, nor do we have Kopp/JHS on the perimeter so I think TG especially and XJ also are going to garner way more attention on the perimeter... there really isn't anyone else. As I've reiterated, I want to see them taking good shots they are confident of making, if those are 3s, great, if not then let's hit a higher % of 2s.
I just think there's more than one way to get guys like Malik, Payton, and Kalel good post touches...that don't clog the lane as much as we have a tendency to do... and that do promote more movement and flow for the other 3-4 guys around them...and themselves. We run sets, at times, that do just that. They don't always work, obviously. But way too often, we start possessions with 1 or both of our bigs on or around the block areas, we either dump it down to them, or we prod off the dribble looking for them. So for long chunks of the shot clock the lane area is occupied by 2-4 or more, people. That's not helping cutters. That's not helping X get to the rim. That's not gonna help MM get to the rim. That limits the places our guys that can shoot, can move and flow in to shots.
Malik and Payton will both be good, efficient post scorers for us this year. Ware will end up being a good pick and roll guy, a guy they can throw lobs too. The rest will have to thrive in transition. I hope our defense creates a lot of transition opportunities! Then it could work better than I'm making it out that it will.
It's a safe, cowardly bet.
Odds are strong that Woody doesn't win a title. That's just basic math.
So Mr. Certainty makes an oh so bold prediction based on that. Nostradamus, he is not. Just a sour puss.
