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A twist that truly delivers the goods.
Seems odd that you'd hire Cohen for anything outside of his hush agreement work. But maybe it was just a coincidence?
Was just coming here to post that. No wonder Hannity has been so crazy. The dots are being connected now. This one is delicious!
A twist that truly delivers the goods.
Seems odd that you'd hire Cohen for anything outside of his hush agreement work. But maybe it was just a coincidence?
Really could not happen to a more deserving person.
It normally wouldn't be, but it was stated by Cohen (or his attorney) in open court as part of the legal wrangling over trying to protect attorney-client privileges re: the various documents seized by the feds.I’m curious as to how and why this should be public?
It normally wouldn't be, but it was stated by Cohen (or his attorney) in open court as part of the legal wrangling over trying to protect attorney-client privileges re: the various documents seized by the feds.
Which the judge has a right to do.I read it was demanded by the judge and it was asked to keep it private but the judge over ruled it.
Generally, the identity of a client is not by itself privileged information. However, in cases where revealing the identity of a client can result in connecting a name to already revealed information that would have been privileged, or would open the newly named client to legal liability, the name can be withheld. I believe there was a case many years ago where a lawyer was retained by someone who had committed a murder, but was not yet a suspect. I don't recall the details, but he wanted the lawyer to give the cops info on the location of the body or something, out of guilt I believe. Anyway, the government wanted to force the lawyer to name the client. He refused.Correct me if I’m wrong, but the name of a lawyers client is not privileged. There may exist a privilege with regard to communications but I don’t believe it extends to the identity.
Which the judge has a right to do.
Generally, the identity of a client is not by itself privileged information. However, in cases where revealing the identity of a client can result in connecting a name to already revealed information that would have been privileged, or would open the newly named client to legal liability, the name can be withheld. I believe there was a case many years ago where a lawyer was retained by someone who had committed a murder, but was not yet a suspect. I don't recall the details, but he wanted the lawyer to give the cops info on the location of the body or something, out of guilt I believe. Anyway, the government wanted to force the lawyer to name the client. He refused.
I could be mangling the details on that case; it's been a few years. But the lesson is: your name is not protected in general, but there are exceptions depending on circumstances.
He was a shill long before Cohens office was raided.I have no idea what to make of this development, but at least it half-way explains the bat-sh!t crazy Hannity 'exposé' Trump was promoting where he talked about the Mueller, Clinton and Comey 'crime families'.
My guess is that Sean Hannity isn't just a Trump shill. He wants the Mueller investigation shut down because digging into Cohen's records may uncover some dirt on him.
I don't know what the arguments were that were made in court, but I think the relevant point here is that there is no good legal reason to refuse to identify Hannity. Look, if the government was in possession of privileged communications that proved some unnamed guy conspired with Cohen to commit fraud, and they wanted to force Cohen to name who this client was so they could connect that dot and arrest him, yeah, he'd have every right to refuse, and if the judge overruled him, assuming he's an ethical and competent lawyer, he'd spend a night in jail while his attorneys filed an emergency appeal.I’m sure the attorneys on here would love to provide a list of names of their clients to each POTENTIAL client that requests it to avoid this type of thing. It appears the judge has the right but I don’t get it in this case as I don’t see the materiality of the disclosure. The prosecutor argued it was of public interest. That means I should care who my attorneys are representing....
But he's much more than that now.He was a shill long before Cohens office was raided.
I wasn’t aware he was attacking Mueller.... I assumed he was against the investigation.... as you laid it out I’d say you are correct. But is anyone surprised? Those shows are so...... you know.But he's much more than that now.
By attacking Mueller and the Mueller investigation without disclosing that a key target of said investigation is his lawyer basically blows up the last remaining iota of journalistic integrity he may have pretended to cling to.
He's trying to split hairs for PR purposes. Fact is, you don't need to pay someone to form an attorney-client relationship. You don't even need to sign an engagement agreement. Attorney-client relationships can be formed, depending on the state, by something as simple as a genuine conversation seeking legal advice in which the client party has an expectation of confidentiality.Now Hannity is denying it all. Never paid him or received an invoice. OK paid him $10 once. But I still have attorney client privilege with anything is discussed with the guy who was not my lawyer. What a joke this guy is.
I'd say running an investigative report where he determines that there is such a thing as the "Mueller crime family" is attacking him...or at least his integrity. Which, given the topic of this thread is like a guy with leprosy looking at a guy with mild acne saying, 'you look REAL bad'.I wasn’t aware he was attacking Mueller.... I assumed he was against the investigation.... as you laid it out I’d say you are correct. But is anyone surprised? Those shows are so...... you know.
Egg on the face
They are covering it on TV.just checked Fox News' website - for some reason I can't find anything about this there...
The fact that an attorney represents a certain person is often, very often, not considered to be privileged. Virtually every judge in a litigated matter and every party to a business transaction automatically knows who is representing the scoundrel on the orher side. No big deal unless you're someone like Trump who doesn't know or doesn't care about the normal rules.I’m curious as to how and why this should be public?
EDIT: just read it.... I really don’t know why that should have been made public from documents seized .... I certainly don’t want my attorneys name in the open for many reasons.
It just seems on the surface, it would be protected. I guess they can disclose The Who’s of was sued or defended against?
I’m sure the attorneys on here would love to provide a list of names of their clients to each POTENTIAL client that requests it to avoid this type of thing. It appears the judge has the right but I don’t get it in this case as I don’t see the materiality of the disclosure. The prosecutor argued it was of public interest. That means I should care who my attorneys are representing....
Is it ethical for Fox "News" to keep Hannity on the air when he's so involved in this situation? I mean, there's a reason he's so nuts about defending Trump (and probably Cohen, but I don't watch Hannity). He seems to have quite the conflict of interest.
One question I have is whether there's enough nexus between Trump and Hannity that might be established through Cohen to make a case of illegal campaign contributions . . . kinda like the potential for the payment to Daniels by Cohen could end up as a campaign finance law violation.LOL! How hilarious would it be if Sean Hannity was mixed up in all these Russian deals?
Is Fox "News" ethical enough to take a talk show host off the air for that? C'mon Hoops . . . you know better than that.Is it ethical for Fox "News" to keep Hannity on the air when he's so involved in this situation? I mean, there's a reason he's so nuts about defending Trump (and probably Cohen, but I don't watch Hannity). He seems to have quite the conflict of interest.
I would think that all the lawyers on here would be upset about this raid. Attorney Client Privilege is supposed to be one of your ultimate promises that you hold sacred. I thought you guys held it like I hold the Bible...sacred.
A twist that truly delivers the goods.
Seems odd that you'd hire Cohen for anything outside of his hush agreement work. But maybe it was just a coincidence?
I would think that all the lawyers on here would be upset about this raid. Attorney Client Privilege is supposed to be one of your ultimate promises that you hold sacred. I thought you guys held it like I hold the Bible...sacred.
I would think that all the lawyers on here would be upset about this raid. Attorney Client Privilege is supposed to be one of your ultimate promises that you hold sacred. I thought you guys held it like I hold the Bible...sacred.
I would think that all the lawyers on here would be upset about this raid. Attorney Client Privilege is supposed to be one of your ultimate promises that you hold sacred. I thought you guys held it like I hold the Bible...sacred.
I know a helluva lot of lawyers. To a man (or woman), they are absolutely not worried or offended by this whatsoever. Everyone knows that a search warrant for an attorney's records is extremely rare, only granted in the face of the strongest possible evidence, and only executed with the most rigorous of safeguards.I would think that all the lawyers on here would be upset about this raid. Attorney Client Privilege is supposed to be one of your ultimate promises that you hold sacred. I thought you guys held it like I hold the Bible...sacred.