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He’s not wrong though. It’s the Democrats who want UBI, who want to criminalize not referring to transgender people by their “preferred” pronoun, who want to eliminate the electoral college, who want reparations, and the list goes on and on.
And your candidate is vile. I'll own the Dem policy positions if you'll own your candidate.
 
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And your candidate is vile. I'll own the Dem policy positions if you'll own your candidate.
To be clear, those are not Dem policy positions. They are positions being mooted by a minority of candidates:

Eliminating the EC? Two (Buttigieg and Warren)
UBI? One (Yang)
Reparations? One (Have you even heard of Marianne Williamson?)
Criminalizing using the wrong pronouns? Literally nobody.
 
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To be clear, those are not Dem policy positions. They are positions being mooted by a minority of candidates:

Eliminating the EC? Two (Buttigieg and Warren)
UBI? One (Yang)
Reparations? One (Have you even heard of Marianne Williamson?)
Criminalizing using the wrong pronouns? Literally nobody.
His candidate is still vile.
 
He is doing better than reasonably expected. He has a path, he has to run up big numbers with millinials. It hurts that NH skews old, IA is close to average.
If he's on the Indiana ballot for the primary, I'd have no problem voting for him.

Of course, he would get my vote in the fall against Trump. Which isn't saying much. Hell, I'd vote for VPM over Trump.
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Or Stoll! I'd vote for Stoll over Trump.
 
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The fact that people repeat that, and appear to actually believe it, shows there really is no hope in trying to appeal to those that get their news from Fox.
He’s not wrong though. It’s the Democrats who want UBI, who want to criminalize not referring to transgender people by their “preferred” pronoun, who want to eliminate the electoral college, who want reparations, and the list goes on and on.

That stuff is pretty radical, no matter how much you stick your head in the sand and pretend it’s not.
He’s wrong in that no one is advocating killing babies after birth, which is what we were talking about. And nothing is more radical than the con this administration is pulling now.
 
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If he's on the Indiana ballot for the primary, I'd have no problem voting for him.

Of course, he would get my vote in the fall against Trump. Which isn't saying much. Hell, I'd vote for VPM over Trump.
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Or Stoll! I'd vote for Stoll over Trump.
I wonder who could run against Trump that would cause me to vote for Trump.i have Stalin, Amin, Pot, Hitler, and Cruz. Maybe Pence.

As to the primary, I have no idea. After my early flirtation with O'Malley last time being a mistake, I am only working to eliminate some obvious choices (Bernie, Biden, Warren). And if Hickenlooper talks any more about taking his mom to porn, he is joining that list.
 
Wait, who is my candidate?

On second thought, never mind. ANY candidate the Republicans put forward will be labeled vile and racist.

That’s the Dem playbook after all.
Nope. I would’ve voted for Jeb(!) or Kasich. This is a Trump issue, and the fact that people continue to defend his asshattery. It only hurts the Republican Party.
 
And your candidate is vile. I'll own the Dem policy positions if you'll own your candidate.
Wait, who is my candidate?

On second thought, never mind. ANY candidate the Republicans put forward will be labeled vile and racist.

That’s the Dem playbook after all.
That’s ridiculous. I certainly can’t think of a single GOP candidate or President that people considered racist. Not either Bush, not Romney, not McCain. So try again...
 
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That’s ridiculous. I certainly can’t think of a single GOP candidate or President that people considered racist. Not either Bush, not Romney, not McCain. So try again...
The Trump defenders are flailing. It's sad to see otherwise decent, intelligent people humiliate themselves trying to justify their support for this indefensible man.
 
That’s ridiculous. I certainly can’t think of a single GOP candidate or President that people considered racist. Not either Bush, not Romney, not McCain. So try again...

I remember people accusing them of dog-whistling (mainly Bush/Romney). Bush's smear campaign against McCain in South Carolina in 2000 was pretty awful. Trump's obviously a couple levels of magnitude above that in terms of racism and is a blatant racist by my definition.

Nobody ever accused Bush/McCain of hating Latinos to my knowledge.
 
That’s ridiculous. I certainly can’t think of a single GOP candidate or President that people considered racist. Not either Bush, not Romney, not McCain. So try again...

What are you talking about? Biden said during the 2012 campaign the GOP wanted put black people in chains. Bush was accused of not providing enough FEMA relief in New Orleans because too many blacks lived there. Reaganism was called racist by Dems. The Dems have accused the GOP of racism consistently since Ike.
 
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What are you talking about? Biden said during the 2012 campaign the GOP wanted put black people in chains. Bush was accused of not providing enough FEMA relief in New Orleans because too many blacks lived there. Reaganism was called racist by Dems. The Dems have accused the GOP of racism consistently since Ike.
Thank you, CO, but I didn’t consider Zeke’s response to be a serious one.

It’s just her partisanship is showing.
 
The Trump defenders are flailing. It's sad to see otherwise decent, intelligent people humiliate themselves trying to justify their support for this indefensible man.
Let’s go ahead and get this out of the way-

Me-I’m not a Trump supporter, didn’t vote for him before and won’t in the future.

Zeke, Mark, Goat, Rock, etc-YES YOU DID!!! DON’T EVEN TRY TO DENY IT!!!!!
 
That’s ridiculous. I certainly can’t think of a single GOP candidate or President that people considered racist. Not either Bush, not Romney, not McCain. So try again...

What are you talking about? Biden said during the 2012 campaign the GOP wanted put black people in chains. Bush was accused of not providing enough FEMA relief in New Orleans because too many blacks lived there. Reaganism was called racist by Dems. The Dems have accused the GOP of racism consistently since Ike.
There is a difference in saying policies are racist and saying a president personally is racist. With what’s going on now, it’s pretty difficult to deny that about Trump.
 
The Trump defenders are flailing. It's sad to see otherwise decent, intelligent people humiliate themselves trying to justify their support for this indefensible man.
Let’s go ahead and get this out of the way-

Me-I’m not a Trump supporter, didn’t vote for him before and won’t in the future.

Zeke, Mark, Goat, Rock, etc-YES YOU DID!!! DON’T EVEN TRY TO DENY IT!!!!!
So why do you defend him every single time? Rather difficult to believe.
 
There is a difference in saying policies are racist and saying a president personally is racist. With what’s going on now, it’s pretty difficult to deny that about Trump.

“What’s going on now”? What are you talking about?
 
How the left acts on this board is why people voted for Trump! Keep up your socialist ways because Trumps going to win again!
 
For a smart guy this is awfully dumb. There are moderates being elected all over the place. Manchin, Lamb, there are many.

I understand there are moderates being elected. Personally I don’t think it’s happening on Presidential ticket. Hickenlooper who I could vote for can’t even admit he’s a successful small capitalist businessmen. If he can’t be proud of being successful how the hell is a moderate going to be elected? He got smashed in the media for replying about putting a woman on the ticket by asking if they were asking women candidates if they would put a man on as their VP.
 
I understand there are moderates being elected. Personally I don’t think it’s happening on Presidential ticket. Hickenlooper who I could vote for can’t even admit he’s a successful small capitalist businessmen. If he can’t be proud of being successful how the hell is a moderate going to be elected? He got smashed in the media for replying about putting a woman on the ticket by asking if they were asking women candidates if they would put a man on as their VP.

This has the potential to be one of the most entertaining primary and general election periods ever. Buy popcorn stocks.

Hickenlooper watched Deep Throat with his mother. Beat-O supposedly fed green feces to his wife and called it guacamole, and, while not remembering it when queried, replied that it "sounds like the kind of thing I would do." Kamalalalala smoked prescient weed in college and listened to Snoop Dog and Tupac long before their debut albums. How good was her stash?

All the makings of a classic period. And we probably haven't even gotten to the really weird stuff yet. Trump, with his substantial weirdness lead, will be hard-pressed to retain the distinction of being the King of Weird. If he walks and says he's had enough Nikki Haley or Mitt will win in a walk despite all the dupes going all boutique-socialist.
 
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“What’s going on now”? What are you talking about?
Do you truly need a list again of all Trump’s racists acts and statements for the last several decades? I mean it’s on here a couple times a month and I could give it to you, but I kind of think you can surely find in yourself. But you appear to be in deep denial about that.
 
Do you truly need a list again of all Trump’s racists acts and statements for the last several decades? I mean it’s on here a couple times a month and I could give it to you, but I kind of think you can surely find in yourself. But you appear to be in deep denial about that.

Yes. Give me a list of racist acts.
 
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^^^^^^Has nothing, taps out.
So sorry I have a life and went to watch the women’s basketball game. This is so freaking tiring. Do you not have google? Maybe try it. I’ll do off the top of my head and then I’ll add an article. I guess I’ll just keep it and pull it out every time you senile guys forget the post from the week before.
When he was renting in NY he refused to rent to blacks. He put out a full page ad in NYT to ask for the death penalty for Central Park 5, even though DNA proved them innocent, he said he hated Black Guys counting his money, he wanted Jewish people to do so, the Birther routine with Obama, the Muslim ban, the shithole countries, very fine people on both sides, refusing to disavow David Duke. So much more. You know all this stuff. Why do you want to waste time like this? There’s many more.
 
So sorry I have a life and went to watch the women’s basketball game. This is so freaking tiring. Do you not have google? Maybe try it. I’ll do off the top of my head and then I’ll add an article. I guess I’ll just keep it and pull it out every time you senile guys forget the post from the week before.
When he was renting in NY he refused to rent to blacks. He put out a full page ad in NYT to ask for the death penalty for Central Park 5, even though DNA proved them innocent, he said he hated Black Guys counting his money, he wanted Jewish people to do so, the Birther routine with Obama, the Muslim ban, the shithole countries, very fine people on both sides, refusing to disavow David Duke. So much more. You know all this stuff. Why do you want to waste time like this? There’s many more.

The Central Park five were not “exonerated” by DNA evidence, for one thing. They were actually found to have most likely participated in the rape by the Armstrong commission.
 
^^^^^^Has nothing, taps out.
Interesting you responded to my post and ignored Uncle Mark’s, who said the same thing. Do you really think I care enough to go back and look up your old posts? I’ll wait until the next time you do it. I’m sure it won’t be long.
 
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