Local Plumbers Add Fuel Surcharge
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1. Gas prices are still hurting folks.
2. Its still Biden's fault - notPutin.
3. The Biden admin and Dems in Congress say stupid stuff which is the equivalent of "Let them eat cake."
We added fuel surcharges several times over the years, when diesel fuel prices surged.
We tripled the charge to law firms.
Well I would assume a certain amount is built into the price of the concrete so the surcharge is for the additional cost of the fuel. Our garbage collector charges a $10/3-month surcharge. They would have to sit down and show me ON PAPER how they justify that especially since so many of the house they collect at are in additions where they have bunches of houses close together.
States and the Feds should suspend their gas tax until the price gets bellow $3.50 a gallon.
I get both sides and concrete is outrageous. I know for me and it is a mindset , I do work for a place and used some from their big tank, I admit furtively and I really dont charge them what I should. I was happier not thinking about it . I put some in there , bought some wasnt a big deal,but somehow in their mind it was cheap when I bought mine vs using theirs. A lot of fleet usage actually pays more than we do at the pump.
No they need a actual plan , that wont solve the problem
Very true. I mean kicking back up the pipeline in our country would be the first thing I would do. This way you get more oil in the marketplace. I would also allow oil companies to drill more whether it is on public,private land or on the sea.
There was a proposal to entirely remove the Federal gas tax. But since Biden proposed it, the GOP stopped it cold. The more you know....
Trip charges have been obscene for some time now.
75 - 99 USD for a 10 min one way drive from the shop.
75 - 99 USD for a 10 min one way drive from the shop.
The more you know ? Shows how stupid you truly are. Doesnt fix anything , granted that is Biden in a nutshell and just how do you propose fixing roads? Stupidity is your middle name
That is just a political gimmick to get votes. He probably has plans to get it back somewhere else where people may not notice it. Indiana talked about suspending the state tax but the governor was against it and said he didn't have the power to suspend. Instead the gas tax went up because the price went up.
Which pipeline specifically would you kick back up to provide immediate relief?
Fed gas tax is like 18 cents. Wouldn't even have felt that. State tax is like 80 cents; doing both might have felt better than what we're seeing now. The state sales tax went up with the price increase. That said, price is down about 50 cents today from the high, and the state sales tax should drop next month as a result.
There was also a bill proposed in Congress last month to levy penalties for any proven cases of price gouging at the pumps. Every GOP congressman voted against the bill.
The hard cold fact is that in general GOP politicians want gas prices to be as high as possible, to inflict as much pain as possible, so they can gain political points this fall.
The hard cold fact is that in general GOP politicians want gas prices to be as high as possible, to inflict as much pain as possible, so they can gain political points this fall.
Oh, good grief.There was also a bill proposed in Congress last month to levy penalties for any proven cases of price gouging at the pumps. Every GOP congressman voted against the bill.
The hard cold fact is that in general GOP politicians want gas prices to be as high as possible, to inflict as much pain as possible, so they can gain political points this fall.
1. How do you judge/prove “price gouging?”
2. Who determines “price gouging?”
3. Once any of this is determined, what if margins are well below those in most industries, except maybe grocery stores?
Tell me that you can see why any reasonable person can see that this is a stupid, idiotic bill/idea. Price and wage controls are dumb, dumb, dumb, as are the imbeciles who think crap like this is the way to go.
What else was in the bill?There was also a bill proposed in Congress last month to levy penalties for any proven cases of price gouging at the pumps. Every GOP congressman voted against the bill.
The hard cold fact is that in general GOP politicians want gas prices to be as high as possible, to inflict as much pain as possible, so they can gain political points this fall.
The opposition arguments had nothing to do with price and wage controls, which the bill did not call for, anyway.
Opponents of the bill argued that
1) price gouging is already illegal in many states, rendering the legislation moot.
2) they believe that legislators should be focusing on increasing domestic energy production.
Of course, as to point #2, even oil executives are candid about why they are choosing to limit domestic energy production. It is to preserve shareholder value and corporate profits (60% reponded this way, 6% cited too much government regulation).
www.vox.com
Opponents of the bill argued that
1) price gouging is already illegal in many states, rendering the legislation moot.
2) they believe that legislators should be focusing on increasing domestic energy production.
Of course, as to point #2, even oil executives are candid about why they are choosing to limit domestic energy production. It is to preserve shareholder value and corporate profits (60% reponded this way, 6% cited too much government regulation).
The Consumer Fuel Price Gouging Prevention Act, explained
Democrats want oil and gas companies to pay for their greed, but critics believe that won’t reverse high fuel prices.
www.vox.com
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Unless you are willing to outlaw a company raising its prices to "pass along" increased costs - whether from taxes or materials or wages or whatever - then the consumer is the end payer ALWAYS.The opposition arguments had nothing to do with price and wage controls, which the bill did not call for, anyway.
Opponents of the bill argued that
1) price gouging is already illegal in many states, rendering the legislation moot.
2) they believe that legislators should be focusing on increasing domestic energy production.
Of course, as to point #2, even oil executives are candid about why they are choosing to limit domestic energy production. It is to preserve shareholder value and corporate profits (60% reponded this way, 6% cited too much government regulation).
The Consumer Fuel Price Gouging Prevention Act, explained
Democrats want oil and gas companies to pay for their greed, but critics believe that won’t reverse high fuel prices.
The rest is political posturing. Lies for votes.
Let's say you're making widgets out of wood. Let's say your wood prices quadruple today, so you raise the price of widgets 400%. That's fine, even if you are pricing the widgets that you made last week with cheap wood. You have to look out for your future. Capitalism is fine. To some extent, greed is good. Profiteering is not.
But then let's say your wood prices are cut by a factor of 4 today. You say I can't lower my prices just yet, since I made these widegts last week when wood was really expensive. Also there are many other things going into the pricing of the widgets besides the main raw good.
But then say the cost of wood stays at that low level, yet you keep your prices higher, and your profits clearly indicate that these other things going into the pricing of the widgets are things that are not limiting your capacity and profitability at all.
You wouldn't compete in the marketplace if there were tons of widget makers or if you and your fellow widget makers didn't have wink and nod deals.
I'd agree that it can be hard to draw the line as to when profiteering is going on. It can be obvious though. A hurricane is bearing down and you raise the price of D batteries from $10 a pack to $100 a pack, expect consequences. Is there profiteering going on within the oil industry? I don't really know. Maybe they are just making up for the pandemic when we hung out in our back yards every weekend.
Plumbing is the easiest trade there is. Probably charged you a surcharge for bothering him, while doing an easy ass job, which you could have figured out by watching a 2min youtube video.
One small thing we are overlooking. ANy and I mean ANY plumbing project, no matter how small, always requires 4 trips to the hardware store. They burn a lot of freakin petrol! 
I definitely wouldn't say plumbing is easy. On top of everything else, you are often dealing with crappy situations, literally. Try opening up an ejection pit after someone used the toilet and the pump breaks.
Try plumbing sometime? Why? The only time i would call a plumber is if i didn't have time to do it myself, which i wouldn't complain about someone trying to make a living from.
One of the great benefits of the internet is the youtube videos showing you step by step how to do something that really isn't very hard.
I have made lots of car repairs, refrigerator repairs, washer and dryer repairs, computer repairs, bike repairs, and some minor plumbing repairs. I don't do anything electrical.
Our water in Florida, even the city water, has high mineral content. Then the water heater is sitting out in a hot garage where its 100 degrees every day. These two things are not good for heating elements, so every other year, it seems, an element will burn out, we'll call a plumber, he fixes it in 10 minutes, and we pay the man. Sometimes double 'cause it seems it's always a holiday or a weekend.
Then I asked myself why he is able to do it in 10 minutes, and it's because it is easy and I can do it if I have a spare heating element on hand. So I do it. Maybe I need a better brand of water heater, but that's another discussion.
But if a pipe is busted in the wall, I call the man who knows how to fix that.
I have made lots of car repairs, refrigerator repairs, washer and dryer repairs, computer repairs, bike repairs, and some minor plumbing repairs. I don't do anything electrical.
Our water in Florida, even the city water, has high mineral content. Then the water heater is sitting out in a hot garage where its 100 degrees every day. These two things are not good for heating elements, so every other year, it seems, an element will burn out, we'll call a plumber, he fixes it in 10 minutes, and we pay the man. Sometimes double 'cause it seems it's always a holiday or a weekend.
Then I asked myself why he is able to do it in 10 minutes, and it's because it is easy and I can do it if I have a spare heating element on hand. So I do it. Maybe I need a better brand of water heater, but that's another discussion.
But if a pipe is busted in the wall, I call the man who knows how to fix that.
Shit flows downhill
Payday is Friday
The boss is a sumbich
All you need to know to be a plumber.
We are thinking of adding a fuel surcharge to deliveries. I'm young enough and naive I guess so I didnt exactly know what that all entailed. After our accountant explained it to me I said "like a tax." The accountant reeled back "no no no. We dont use that word. It's a surcharge." Then he quickly explained it again. I said I got it but added that it's a tax. He just smiled and said "it's a surcharge."
Ultimately I dont know if we will do that. Once you do it you can never take it away. But I understand the need.
Ultimately I dont know if we will do that. Once you do it you can never take it away. But I understand the need.
There is nothing that you do, as far as pricing, that you can't take back. Why would you think that you couldn't?
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