Lack of disciple

[TR32]

8-35 from 3?

That isn't : "Guys got good looks they just didn't make shots".

That is: "Coach has no discipline in his offense and let's anyone chuck up 3's in a game".

There is a lack of progress in team play. They do not show discipline or purpose or offensive scheme. There is no attempt to work the ball for the best shot possible. And down the stretch, they didnt value possessions or show poise.

They played hard, but so does everybody else. Several guys were really playing hard but it looked like an unorganized free for all.

Saved by the fact that they have cupcakes next to try to regain some momentum, Indiana absolutely has to win their next 3 Big Ten games to have any shot at a tourney bid, and right now, losing 1 of those is probable, or 2 of those is very possible.

 

[GeorgeStrait IU]

8-35 from 3?

That isn't : "Guys got good looks they just didn't make shots".

That is: "Coach has no discipline in his offense and let's anyone chuck up 3's in a game".

Complete lack of progress in team play. No discipline or purpose. No scheme. No attempt to work the ball for the best shot possible. No toughness or poise down the stretch.

Sure they played hard. They tried. But so does everybody else. A couple of guys were really playing, several guys. But it looked like a free for all.

Saved by the fact they have cupcakes next, Indiana absolutely has to win their next 3 Big Ten games to have any shot at a tourney bid, and right now, losing 1 of those is probable, or 2 of those is very possible.

Leave the desciples out of this vbg. Its hiddeus. Broken record here but I hope IU loses like this the next two conference games, throw in a non conference game as well to end this madness.

 

[bsmitty08]

8-35 from 3?

That isn't : "Guys got good looks they just didn't make shots".

That is: "Coach has no discipline in his offense and let's anyone chuck up 3's in a game".

There is a lack of progress in team play. They do not show discipline or purpose or offensive scheme. There is no attempt to work the ball for the best shot possible. And down the stretch, they didnt value possessions or show poise.

They played hard, but so does everybody else. Several guys were really playing hard but it looked like an unorganized free for all.

Saved by the fact that they have cupcakes next to try to regain some momentum, Indiana absolutely has to win their next 3 Big Ten games to have any shot at a tourney bid, and right now, losing 1 of those is probable, or 2 of those is very possible.

Just a terrible system and a terrible passing team. 10 asst all game! 10!
Move the dam ball!

 

[.Gerdis]

Just a terrible system and a terrible passing team. 10 asst all game! 10!
Move the dam ball!

Yeah. I was surprised to see we only had 9 TOs and 7 steals.

When you miss almost 30 threes .. that doesn’t help the assist totals.

 

[ndhuntington]

Indiana from the arc at Nebraska: Trey Galloway 3-for-9, Luke Goode 3-for-10, Myles Rice 1-for-4, Bryson Tucker 1-for-5, Malik Reneau 0-for-1, Mackenzie Mgbako 0-for-1, Kanaan Carlyle 0-for-5.

Carlyle .257, Tucker .83, and Reneau .200, need to stop shooting threes.

 

[ulrey]

Indiana from the arc at Nebraska: Trey Galloway 3-for-9, Luke Goode 3-for-10, Myles Rice 1-for-4, Bryson Tucker 1-for-5, Malik Reneau 0-for-1, Mackenzie Mgbako 0-for-1, Kanaan Carlyle 0-for-5.

Carlyle .257, Tucker .83, and Reneau .200, need to stop shooting threes.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

A lot of those missed 3s were very good looks.

 

[.Gerdis]

A lot of those missed 3s were very good looks.

Do metrics exist that show how those are related to potential assists?

I’m curious to see how much of a black hole the post is for the ball? In other words, are we getting passes from our post out to open shooters? Seems to my untrained eye that most of that passing stays in the interior, especially in the high /low game. Would be nice to have three point shooting that isn’t generated off the dribble or perimeter based assists.

 

[TR32]

A lot of those missed 3s were very good looks.

There's a reason Knight made everyone screen for Alford.

 

[TR32]

Do metrics exist that show how those are related to potential assists?

I’m curious to see how much of a black hole the post is for the ball? In other words, are we getting passes from our post out to open shooters? Seems to my untrained eye that most of that passing stays in the interior, especially in the high /low game. Would be nice to have three point shooting that isn’t generated off the dribble or perimeter based assists.

They space but then stand around. If players were screening and cutting, interior players could find them.

 

[.Gerdis]

They space but then stand around. If players were screening and cutting, interior players could find them.

I’m a big advocate of screening, cutting and player movement away from the ball. I’m just not convinced that our interior players would find them. Tunnel vision with our bigs seems to be systemic under MW.

 

[SRThoosier]

Coach is a fraud and his staff clueless. It’s easy to see there’s no real work being done at practice nor prior to the start of the season. The final 10 minutes of Nebraska was the worst basketball I’ve seen in my life as the only IU points scored the final 10 minutes was a 3pt field goal and a free throw. Woodson’s constant look of puzzlement is cartoonish as he clearly doesn’t have a clue how to coach college basketball. I predicted a 22-13 season (despite a ton of talent) and I’m beginning to wonder…

 

[TR32]

I’m a big advocate of screening, cutting and player movement away from the ball. I’m just not convinced that our interior players would find them. Tunnel vision with our bigs seems to be systemic under MW.

TJD passed the ball really well from the post and did so better under Woodson than Archie. That is a fair statement.

Obviously he was an All-American and those don't land in your backyard every year, but he did improve in that category.

Ballo does pretty well at scoring or getting to the line via lob ins. I get the tunnel comment because he is more of a Shaq than a TJD. I do tend to think the lob to Ballo is a play that works better against a Belmont than an MSU though.

 

[bsmitty08]

TJD passed the ball really well from the post and did so better under Woodson than Archie. That is a fair statement.

Obviously he was an All-American and those don't land in your backyard every year, but he did improve in that category.

Ballo does pretty well at scoring or getting to the line via lob ins. I get the tunnel comment because he is more of a Shaq than a TJD. I do tend to think the lob to Ballo is a play that works better against a Belmont than an MSU though.

Malik has not developed in this sense.

 

[IUNorth]

Malik has not developed in this sense.

There are tons of big man passing drills he should/could be doing every day in practice. And there’s a bench to put them on when they’re consistently not making the right read, or making the pass.

But alas…

 

[Courtsensetwo]

In last night's case, Neb was collapsing to double and even triple in the post which left a lot of open perimeter.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

I’m a big advocate of screening, cutting and player movement away from the ball. I’m just not convinced that our interior players would find them. Tunnel vision with our bigs seems to be systemic under MW.

This is a fact.

 

[TR32]

Malik has not developed in this sense.

agreed. He seems to be trying for "the Carmelo" in his aspirations.

 

[bsmitty08]

agreed. He seems to be trying for "the Carmelo" in his aspirations.

Just can’t shoot, dribble or defend. Lol

 

[abraxis]

A lot of those missed 3s were very good looks.

Goode stands out as having two wide open looks late in the game. They were both ugly shots with no chance of going through the net, clanging only iron. Come on, Man, you're here for only one reason!

 

[TR32]

Goode stands out as having two wide open looks late in the game. They were both ugly shots with no chance of going through the net, clanging only iron. Come on, Man, you're here for only one reason!

Goode has been showing heart and effort in recent games. He reminds me of a taller Kyle Hornsby. Mechanically sound shooter who can be streaky. But I liked what Goode and Rice were doing on the court as far as playing hard. Trying to win.

He was off on his shooting in the game.

Woodson needs to call timeouts at apt times, and be able to settle them. Get them into a rhythm and a system they can go to to get buckets when they need them instead of just letting them wing it.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Goode stands out as having two wide open looks late in the game. They were both ugly shots with no chance of going through the net, clanging only iron. Come on, Man, you're here for only one reason!

Yes, he absolutely missed a couple thay he shpiuld not have, but I like the grit I see from him lately. Being from Indiana and wanting to play for IU, he understands how it should be done here.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Just can’t shoot, dribble or defend. Lol

You know one of the great things about IU winning?

You aren't here puking all over every thread as you do when we lose.

 

[ButHerEmails]

Just a terrible system and a terrible passing team. 10 asst all game! 10!
Move the dam ball!

10 assists for a game = shitty shooting, or a complete lack of a working offensive scheme.

 

[kmathum]

Leave the desciples out of this vbg. Its hiddeus. Broken record here but I hope IU loses like this the next two conference games, throw in a non conference game as well to end this madness.

I'd love to have 12 guys who can shoot and play defense.

 

[bsmitty08]

You know one of the great things about IU winning?

You aren't here puking all over every thread as you do when we lose.

Yeah cause nobody else is over this Bs but hey keep up the good fight buddy

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Yeah cause nobody else is over this Bs but hey keep up the good fight buddy

FO

 

[RespecttheStars]

FO

Monkey mad when you tell monkey truth.

Bad monkey.

 

[bsmitty08]

FO

Truth hurts I know

 

[4IUSox2]

I heard Judas was the best 3-point shooting disciple, but got greedy. Not a good teammate!!

 

[kmathum]

I heard Judas was the best 3-point shooting disciple, but got greedy. Not a good teammate!!

Got a better NIL deal

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Truth hurts I know

I don’t need any help with the truth Ace

Carry on doing…..what you do

 

[RespecttheStars]

Got a better NIL deal

Few for more priceless moments
for the birthday today.

Ain’t no thing Mildred.
It’s the way now way more we now know to be be . “
Do you know what my diastolic is Ferris?
Do you know??

for
****
Sake
Do
We
Even
Know.?

Calm down camwron

Calm
Down

 

[RespecttheStars]

Few for more priceless moments
for the birthday today.

Ain’t no thing Mildred.
It’s the way now way more we now know to be be . “
Do you know what my diastolic is Ferris?
Do you know??

for
****
Sake
Do
We
Even
Know.?

Calm down camwron

Calm
Down

Let my Cameron………

 

[RespecttheStars]

Let my Cameron………

Gooo….

 

[stollcpa]

In last night's case, Neb was collapsing to double and even triple in the post which left a lot of open perimeter.

I am not sure our two bigs made even one good pass out of those double/triple teams. I didn’t notice any our players breaking to the basket after their defender left them to double the bigs.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

I am not sure our two bigs made even one good pass out of those double/triple teams. I didn’t notice any our players breaking to the basket after their defender left them to double the bigs.

I specifically recall one pretty kick out from Ballo. It was a unicorn so I noticed.

MW teaches an NBA scheme so there is no help defense

 

[Stuffshot]

Do metrics exist that show how those are related to potential assists?

I’m curious to see how much of a black hole the post is for the ball? In other words, are we getting passes from our post out to open shooters? Seems to my untrained eye that most of that passing stays in the interior, especially in the high /low game. Would be nice to have three point shooting that isn’t generated off the dribble or perimeter based assists.

Reneau was 3/6 and Ballo was 3/4 against Nebraska.

The summary of bad shooting in Post No. 5 above demonstrates why it makes no sense for those two to pass the ball outside, where IU's pitiful 3-point shooters can miss it more often.

I'd rather we score an old-style layup accompanied possibly by an old-style defensive foul instead of seeing a beautiful, wide-open "modern" 3-pointer that rims off 20 feet into the arms of our opponent.

We just don't have good 3-point shooters.

 

[Stuffshot]

There's a reason Knight made everyone screen for Alford.

And for Kitchell and for Wittman and for Isiah.

 

[ulrey]

And for Kitchell and for Wittman and for Isiah.

And Cheaney