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IU would have been in NCAA Tournament per Lunardi

Ok. Here is Andy Katz. IU a ten seed. https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketbal...rnament-bracket-predicted-using-top-16-reveal

Here is Jerry Palm. IU a ten seed. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/

Sporting news. IU a 11 seed. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nca...rnament-field-of-68/jpwkv3rkmcv51hc0n6zjfuf82

SI. One guy has IU as a 10 the other has IU at an EIGHT. https://www.si.com/college/2020/03/06/ncaa-tournament-bracket-predictions-march-madness

Another site has IU as an 11. https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-tournament/bracket-predictions/

Do I need to go on? See a trend?

And before you go there, NO we don't know for sure but if you can find one team in the history of bracket predictions that was IN the tourney in every prediction and then was OUT on selection Sunday then your argument would have more credibility.
All conjecture... Conference tournaments were not played. Too many variables unknown. In reality no one made the tournament. To make claims IU is in is foolhardy. Nothing more than pipe dreams or justication for claims about progress being made.
 
All conjecture... Conference tournaments were not played. Too many variables unknown. In reality no one made the tournament. To make claims IU is in is foolhardy. Nothing more than pipe dreams or justication for claims about progress being made.

Oh jeeebus. No one is trying to hang a banner. IU progressed ever so slightly. A few more wins next year and you guys will have to change up your usernames again...
 
All conjecture... Conference tournaments were not played. Too many variables unknown. In reality no one made the tournament. To make claims IU is in is foolhardy. Nothing more than pipe dreams or justication for claims about progress being made.

Not foolhardy at all.

Claiming IU would have made the field is based on the data available at the time. It isn't like the season was cancelled in December. The regular season was over, only the conference tournaments were left.

Since IU was in 89 of the 90 predicted brackets, that would indicate that the chances of IU being in the big dance are very high. Also, the brackets I checked, IU was not among the final four in. That would indicate to me that IU was not "on the bubble".

Could a scenario be concocted where IU was out? Absolutely. I am sure that with certain teams getting upset conference tournament titles and IU getting blasted by Wisconsin, IU would have been out.

In other words, IU was not a "lock" for the tournament but since they were not in the last four in, the number of things that would had to go wrong for them to be out leads one to conclude that they were in.
 
Oh jeeebus. No one is trying to hang a banner. IU progressed ever so slightly. A few more wins next year and you guys will have to change up your usernames again...
Few more wins this year or next would have been / be great. Why would anyone change their user names? The reality of the situation is that we will not know. With 19 conference tournaments not played out... It is all just conjecture.
 
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Are you f****** serious? Now you’re arguing IU off the bubble? Really? The Arizona States, NC States, and Cincinnatis were soooo much more worthy? Lol. Your hate makes you dumb.
I’m saying we were a bubble team. Not for sure in or out. That’s just reality. Anything could’ve happened.
 
Ok. Here is Andy Katz. IU a ten seed. https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketbal...rnament-bracket-predicted-using-top-16-reveal

Here is Jerry Palm. IU a ten seed. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/

Sporting news. IU a 11 seed. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nca...rnament-field-of-68/jpwkv3rkmcv51hc0n6zjfuf82

SI. One guy has IU as a 10 the other has IU at an EIGHT. https://www.si.com/college/2020/03/06/ncaa-tournament-bracket-predictions-march-madness

Another site has IU as an 11. https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-tournament/bracket-predictions/

Do I need to go on? See a trend?

And before you go there, NO we don't know for sure but if you can find one team in the history of bracket predictions that was IN the tourney in every prediction and then was OUT on selection Sunday then your argument would have more credibility.
You couldn’t get more on the bubble than 10 and 11 seeds.

I’m not saying we were out. I’m just not saying we were for sure in. A lot would have happened. Bids would’ve been stolen, we had another game to play, other bubble teams had games to play. There would’ve been plenty of surprises.

There’s no way of knowing what the outcome would’ve been. We were squarely on the bubble.
 
Not foolhardy at all.

Claiming IU would have made the field is based on the data available at the time. It isn't like the season was cancelled in December. The regular season was over, only the conference tournaments were left.

Since IU was in 89 of the 90 predicted brackets, that would indicate that the chances of IU being in the big dance are very high. Also, the brackets I checked, IU was not among the final four in. That would indicate to me that IU was not "on the bubble".

Could a scenario be concocted where IU was out? Absolutely. I am sure that with certain teams getting upset conference tournament titles and IU getting blasted by Wisconsin, IU would have been out.

In other words, IU was not a "lock" for the tournament but since they were not in the last four in, the number of things that would had to go wrong for them to be out leads one to conclude that they were in.
Using 89 of 90 to calculate reasonable odds means IU was 98.9% certain to be in. ;)
 
Not foolhardy at all.

Claiming IU would have made the field is based on the data available at the time. It isn't like the season was cancelled in December. The regular season was over, only the conference tournaments were left.

Since IU was in 89 of the 90 predicted brackets, that would indicate that the chances of IU being in the big dance are very high. Also, the brackets I checked, IU was not among the final four in. That would indicate to me that IU was not "on the bubble".

Could a scenario be concocted where IU was out? Absolutely. I am sure that with certain teams getting upset conference tournament titles and IU getting blasted by Wisconsin, IU would have been out.

In other words, IU was not a "lock" for the tournament but since they were not in the last four in, the number of things that would had to go wrong for them to be out leads one to conclude that they were in.
When was IU to play Wisc?
 
Sure it is but it's good speculation and good conjecture. It's rare that there are many small conference tournament upsets and since IU was considered safely in all but one bracket speculation I think the 98.9 percent in is fair.
Ha! An 11 seed in a conference that had never sent more than 8 is anything but safe...
Purdue probably just needed to ho one round further than IU to bump us...
 
Sure it is but it's good speculation and good conjecture. It's rare that there are many small conference tournament upsets and since IU was considered safely in all but one bracket speculation I think the 98.9 percent in is fair.
Hey enjoy your pipe dream! Nothing changes. We will never know. 10th place in the Big 10. Enjoy!
 
Can you explain why some of you are so upset that the bracketologists all (except 1 apparently) had IU in the tournament? I don't understand why it bothers you so much. It's strange.
It makes them look dumb. Not that it really needed to but it does.
 
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Speculation upon conjecture. Simple

No, it is drawing a conclusion considering all the relevant data.

No emotion, no speculation, no conjecture. Take all data and let it lead you to where ever it takes you. The data leads me to believe that IU was pretty safely in. If it lead you to a different conclusion, I would be interested in reading your reasoning.

I am with Bing in that I don't understand why some seem to NOT want IU in the tournament.
 
Can you explain why some of you are so upset that the bracketologists all (except 1 apparently) had IU in the tournament? I don't understand why it bothers you so much. It's strange.
I, for one, am not upset at that notion... But the reality is we will never know what the selection committee would have determined on how many teams from the B1G would have made it in... The bracketologists only speculate on what they would do if they were making those decisions. The committee make their decisions on their own criteria.
 
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No, it is drawing a conclusion considering all the relevant data.

No emotion, no speculation, no conjecture. Take all data and let it lead you to where ever it takes you. The data leads me to believe that IU was pretty safely in. If it lead you to a different conclusion, I would be interested in reading your reasoning.

I am with Bing in that I don't understand why some seem to NOT want IU in the tournament.
I WANTED IU in! But that does not make it so. We will never know.
 
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