IU wins 5 games.. Now what?
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I'll try to keep my comments to just one post, to leave plenty of room for those who have need to register their objections to CKW in response to every post . . .
I think we retain Wilson with 4, 5, or 6+ wins, and I think we extend him for 3 years in all of those circumstances.
The results aren't what we want, but I see the program as being in better shape than I've seen it over the last 20 years or so. The only game IU hasn't been in this year is PSU - at PSU right after losing Nate and Howard. I see 55-52 losses, but no 83-21 losses.
I see better individual player development in most, if not all, positions than I can recall over the years. I see better talent with more individual speed than I remember ever having.
The problem with IU is its history and legacy of losing . . . it's going to take time for the program - coaches, players, radio announcers and fans - to understand when they're having a little success, and to learn how to build on that success so we start having confidence that we're going to be winning games.
What I see is a program that loses focus when we're ahead in games; it's like we're so not used to being in that position we - collectively - don't know how to respond in a continue-what-your-doing, double-down-on-your-focus manner the way that winning programs do. (When we are doing well, I'd love to hear a cheer "DO THAT AGAIN" over and over, like peewee coaches do in kids bball, soccer and football games . . . .)
I don't think starting over will get us over that hump in some sort of magical way. And I do think we're right there on the cusp of enough success that we will be able to have more confidence, and retain more focus, the longer this coaching staff is here.
So I'm all for keeping Wilson et al, for a good long while . . . and when we achieve the success I think these guys are going to bring, I'm going to hope that they'll remember that we rode with them through the rough patches the same way they rode with us through them.
Then why was KW allowed to enter this season - and recruiting season - with only 2 years remaining?
Or, why wasn't an extension announced when we (thankfully) won the Wake game?
Recruiting is being affected RIGHT NOW by not having a contract in place for more than 2 additional seasons.
I'm not saying that I disagree with you. He may very well be extended if we finish 4-8, but he is currently a less effective recruiter without an extension.
I guess the answer is, as of today, Glass doesn't know if KW is the right guy to lead the program in the future.
Once he decides he is, he sure as hell needs to announce an extension. immediately.
If he decides KW isn't the guy, that should be announced immediately as well.
A few comments, and I won't go on a huge anti-Wilson tirade in this one.
1. Bill Lynch - he was fired by Fred with a 5-7 record in 2010.
2. Lynch was fired after 3 seasons.
3. Lynch was fired with 1 bowl under his belt, Wilson will have none after 5 seasons.
4. Attendance - likely to dip into the low 20s. No coach can survive that. Does anybody remember the Dinardo years? I recall a home game vs. Minnesota and Dinardo at the helm and there were right around 20k there. He ended up getting blasted in his last game at Purdue.
5. Cameron, Dinardo and Lynch were all fired with much less in the way of facilities, recruits and assistant coaches salaries. Now, you have a guy in Wilson who has much better built in advantages and better support and his record is ritually the same....and he gets a pass?
1. Bill Lynch - he was fired by Fred with a 5-7 record in 2010.
2. Lynch was fired after 3 seasons.
3. Lynch was fired with 1 bowl under his belt, Wilson will have none after 5 seasons.
4. Attendance - likely to dip into the low 20s. No coach can survive that. Does anybody remember the Dinardo years? I recall a home game vs. Minnesota and Dinardo at the helm and there were right around 20k there. He ended up getting blasted in his last game at Purdue.
5. Cameron, Dinardo and Lynch were all fired with much less in the way of facilities, recruits and assistant coaches salaries. Now, you have a guy in Wilson who has much better built in advantages and better support and his record is ritually the same....and he gets a pass?
Hmm.
You call it "giving Wilson a pass" instead of "let's learn from the mistake of premature past firings"
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I'm very close to saying give Wilson 2 extra years....I don't want to start over again. I hate losing and that's what we've done for 20 years. Wilson has recruited better players it seems, we are competitive in most games with a chance to win. I like many things he's done but what keeps me from pulling that contract extension trigger is his in game coaching. I simply don't see him as a good X and O guy, is that what we really want leading this program??
A competent AD is playing both sides of the fence right now, putting feelers out there to gauge interest. In the meantime, that competent AD is saying the right things to Wilson behind closed doors and in public when asked. Wilson only has himself to blame for such fence playing behavior from said AD...win the Minnesota game 2 years ago, beat Navy, beat Ball State, and don't blow a MONSTER lead to Rutgers and mister AD doesn't have to be put into such a tight spot...
You have to weigh the good things Wilson has done versus the very sucky aspects of his coaching.
A competent AD is playing both sides of the fence right now, putting feelers out there to gauge interest. In the meantime, that competent AD is saying the right things to Wilson behind closed doors and in public when asked. Wilson only has himself to blame for such fence playing behavior from said AD...win the Minnesota game 2 years ago, beat Navy, beat Ball State, and don't blow a MONSTER lead to Rutgers and mister AD doesn't have to be put into such a tight spot...
You have to weigh the good things Wilson has done versus the very sucky aspects of his coaching.
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