That’s the kind of Cosmik Debris that can get y’all a Ph.D.
What kinda goo-roo are you anyway?
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That’s the kind of Cosmik Debris that can get y’all a Ph.D.
What kinda goo-roo are you anyway?
Here's the article:
San Diego Unified School District Changes Grading System to ‘Combat Racism'
The San Diego Unified School District is overhauling the way it grades students.www.nbcsandiego.com
There are some thoughtful elements of the proposed change:
During the first semester of last year, 30% of all D or F grades were given to English learners. One in four, 25%, of failing marks went to students with disabilities.
So, trying to limit the barriers for ESL students seems like a good idea IYAM, even more so that disabilities should be taken into account in some form or fashion.
Academic grades will now focus on mastery of the material, not a yearly average, which board members say penalizes students who get a slow start, or who struggle at points throughout the year.
This sounds like a well-intentioned idea, but I see two problems with it: 1) lack of objectivity and/or 2) in order to accurately "test" or measure mastery, wouldn't there be abnormal pressure put on the back end (e.g., final exams) of classes?
Another big change, teachers can no longer consider non-material factors when grading. Things like turning work in on time and classroom behavior will now instead count towards a student's citizenship grade, not their academic grade.
I view each of these distinctly and am surprised that they are being grouped together. For example, there should be nothing wrong with a student missing more or less class, if they are meeting deadlines. Behavior shouldn't necessarily directly impact grades, however, if you are disrupting the class and creating negative issues for other students that need that time, it should affect something (unclear to me what a citizenship grade is and how it is used in the educational context).
As for the turning in work on time, the real world operates with deadlines. For educators to abandon the idea that time matters doesn't seem to be taking the kids' long-term interests in mind.
My stoker was a jr high language arts teacher. She said semester long averages are a must In that subject because the topics covered are more independent. Written communication, oral communication, reading comprehension, creative writing, extemporaneous speaking and writing, are taught and graded throughout the term. All of that together makes the total grade, not the final exercise on the final day. A student can’t blow off class or not do the work through the term and expect a good grade. Seems like the examples given are more suitable for something more concrete like math.
For my part, it seems to me separating behavior and discipline from academic rigor will further structural racism not diminish it. Part of the reason for a publicly funded education is to build good respectable and respectful citizens who will take their place in building a better society. These social skills need to be emphasized not diminished. That means behaving in class and doing assignments.
At present, San Diego schools are only open for a handful of special-needs students. What the kids in the district need most of all is probably a return to normalcy, as soon as possible. An experimental system that eliminates year-end letter grades seems like an especially bad idea for the current moment.
Thanks McM , JDB, Hoos, 76 and others for the discussion. Getting ready to open the 3rd owl (Bell's Best Brown Ale) so I'm gonna check out of here. Enjoy your evening fellow Hoosiers
Delicious. Yep. Follow the tried and true path, no gimmicks, and in time if you work hard enough and apply yourself you might just get yourself a stoker
Well done, but I guess you skipped over the really interesting conversation some of us are having questioning the education reforms happening in San Diego. Kudos to @Spartans9312 . It's gotten me all healed up. You should join in!
You started a thread about how your opponents are Nazis and now you want to bitch about the types of replies you got? Go **** yourself.
Hey...I always tell my kids, sometimes the most important thing is knowing when you don't know the answer. 😀
I do think you are asking the right questions and pinpointed where the discussion should be centered. I thought this quote from the article was indicative that the San Diego school district was thinking the same thing:
“Our current grading system is working very well for what it was intended to do, and what it was intended to do was to classify students and to put them into categories and basically push them in a certain direction,” School Board President John Lee Evans said.
“We’ve been for too long on this idea where you had a chance, you didn’t succeed, so therefore we’re gonna categorize you as a failure, and your option is to start all over.”
Hey, some liberals, libertarians, and conservatives got together and were able to get something productive out of this thread. Kudos to @Bulk VanderHuge, @Spartans9312 , and @JamieDimonsBalls , @mcmurtry66 , and even @CO. Hoosier for making something productive eight pages down the road from an absurd original post. It was a short burst, but fun to talk about some actual policy.
But, for ESL one of the arguments is that the student improves over time so wouldn't the lower averages of the first half of the semester, for example, not be representative of the student's ability by the end of it?
If by Left you mean the Russkies and by failed you mean psychs, you’re right.
Scared of liberal blacks? Most of the rioting and looting I watched were non working punk ass white kids living in mom and dad’s basement.
We’ve reached that point. It’s not going to be fixed because we have no leaders on either side. And if we did, no one would listen anyway.
This kind of reactionary hyperbole is why the right is becoming irrelevant. Soon, no one will be listening.
AP: "Justice Dept. drops suit against Yale University that alleged discrimination against white, Asian students in admissions."
Commentary Magazine: What they really mean by 'Equity' is a pretty good read on the subject
I wish you and your brother well, but he isn't the poster he used to be. Pretty much an obnoxious hack for the better part of a few years now. Brainwashed? I don't know about that. That seems far-fetched. But there's good reason people question his sanity.
You, on the other hand, remain stable and respectable! What are we drinking tonight? Make it quick, I only have time to pour one before bed.
Yes he is but you need to understand that the Cooler has been a leftist playground for 20 years. Buzz, Rockfish and you have trampled on any opposition to the party line. I make my points in my own way but just like the post I replied too and the response that said but, but, Busch ran a add in 1988 that proves that Republicans use race. That is it for this young man. History to him started in 1980. I know my brother, he is formidable and very capable of keeping this debate going for years.
That's just not true. Overall, we're certainly more liberal than some other teams' political forums, but that's really not saying much (check out OSU's board some time).
If we had a series of liberal mods repeatedly deleting any conservative arguments, you'd have a point. But we don't. Maybe we did in the past. I don't really remember much about Buzz's tenure, to be honest. But no one is really being censored here. If your problem is that your conservative opinions are disagreed with and pushed back against, well...free speech goes both ways, remember. You're allowed to say something wrong, and I'm allowed to tell you it's wrong.
I won't dispute anything you say about your brother. You know him better than I do, obviously.
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