You asked me why they would. I don’t know, I just know that they did. :shrug:So were commas, semicolons, and hyphens. And?
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You asked me why they would. I don’t know, I just know that they did. :shrug:So were commas, semicolons, and hyphens. And?
Wrong again silly Billy, I sought Trump out because I didn’t like all social justice warriors and the political correctness!How the Trump specifically targeted people like you, I suppose. LOL
The point, maestro, is why did you post about it? Evidently you thought ad spending was relevant to something in this thread.You asked me why they would. I don’t know, I just know that they did. :shrug:
Do you think the Russians called Facebook customer support if their ads were not as effective as they liked?Yea, says the guy who thinks the Russians run active measures and fight hybrid wars by buying advertisements.
"Nacho Cheesier Fascism" ...
WHy is impeachment imperative?
Rep. Mike Quigley (D-Ill.) finally asked the question about the error at the heart of Mueller’s intentionally cryptic report: “What if a president serves beyond the statute of limitations?”If the House doesn't impeach Trump and Trump gets re-elected, there may be no grounds for asking for equitable tolling of the statute of limitations.
The point is that the statute of limitations would let a two-term president run out the clock and avoid any future prosecution. Mueller’s reply (“I don’t know the answer to that question”) is troubling: He didn't have an answer for this problem. And the DOJ memo relied on this legal error: It assumed that a judge could stop the clock and allow late indictments, but the DOJ cited no actual precedents for this power (called “equitable tolling”) in any criminal case. And there appear to be no precedents, for good reasons. Courts are very unlikely to do the unprecedented when a prosecutor did not even attempt an indictment.
And thus, Quigley set up a new legal argument for impeachment: The statute of limitations means a president could be permanently above the law. A House impeachment could be the only opportunity to hold Trump accountable or even accuse him legally. Ever.
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What difference would that have made? It’s the difference it could still make: in court. A formal inquiry could state potential high crimes and misdemeanors, and, in court, those clear legal statements would be much stronger claims to overcome executive privilege and attorney/client privilege, as well as to obtain tax returns and financial records. Without this good faith statement from the House, all of the House Democrats’ litigation is weaker. Courts want to hear the real reasons for these subpoenas, not pretexts. There is still time to open an impeachment inquiry and strengthen this litigation.
So you have terrible reading comprehension, because my post that's still up talks about an attack on our electoral infrastructure, and not Facebook ads.Yes, the original post of yours that I quoted was deleted. I can’t imagine why.
So you have terrible reading comprehension, because my post that's still up talks about an attack on our electoral infrastructure, and not Facebook ads.
I listen to our intelligence community and not to trolls.You still don’t know what you are talking about. “Attack” and “searching for vulnerabilities” says nothing. No tabulations were changed. No votes were changed. This all suggests the defenses are pretty good. Voter data is vulnerable but so what? You are one of those who claim voter registration should be simple and not used to suppress votes. So it’s easily accessible. Voter data is not election infrastructure anyway. Cutting and pasting material obviously doesn’t mean you understand it. As I said, government computers receive thousands of attacks. That isn’t news.
I listen to our intelligence community and not to trolls.
The voter data base is for sale to any willing purchaser. It is a public record. Both parties buy all or parts of it - depending on what races they need the info to contest. Even Rock could buy it and he'd have a duplicate of what his party has. He wouldn't know what to do with it, but he'd have it.You still don’t know what you are talking about. “Attack” and “searching for vulnerabilities” says nothing. No tabulations were changed. No votes were changed. This all suggests the defenses are pretty good. Voter data is vulnerable but so what? You are one of those who claim voter registration should be simple and not used to suppress votes. So it’s easily accessible. Voter data is not election infrastructure anyway. Cutting and pasting material obviously doesn’t mean you understand it. As I said, government computers receive thousands of attacks. That isn’t news.
He's asking for a felony to be committed. Its against the law for Jerry Nadler to have the grand jury information. Criminal juggernaut is what Jerry is trying to be. Go on - support criminal conduct - its within your sphere of hatred.Nadler's asking for the Mueller grand jury filings. Gonna get uglier. Trump's weetle tweetie poos can't stop this juggernaut.
I listen to our intelligence community and not to trolls.
This whole position is so odd. I never thought I’d see the day where the parties cannot even agree that securing our elections should be non political.
This points to the fundamental change. The Russians have been doing these things forever. The GOP welcoming the interference in the new piece. It’s the most unpatriotic tact they could take.
No matter what actions politicians take that people disagree with they mostly fall under policy arguments. This is the first (in)action that might truly qualify as a treasonable act.This whole position is so odd. I never thought I’d see the day where the parties cannot even agree that securing our elections should be non political.
This points to the fundamental change. The Russians have been doing these things forever. The GOP welcoming the interference in the new piece. It’s the most unpatriotic tact they could take.
The GOP welcoming the interference in the new piece. It’s the most unpatriotic tact they could take.
Because advertising works, and the producer can control targeting, whereas the consumers of regular bot accounts are more self-selecting.Why would Russia waste any money on ads? Their entire internet propaganda machine is free. Do you understand how it works?
Word of mouth works better than any ad ever will, especially in our politically polarized environment.Because advertising works, and the producer can control targeting, whereas the consumers of regular bot accounts are more self-selecting.
"defenses are pretty good" says nothing when such defenses are adopted on a state or local level, meaning more or less vulnerabilities. We know that in Illinois votes could have been changed. Technology moves fast. We need to stay ahead of the curve or we lose. The price of freedom is constant vigilance.You still don’t know what you are talking about. “Attack” and “searching for vulnerabilities” says nothing. No tabulations were changed. No votes were changed. This all suggests the defenses are pretty good. Voter data is vulnerable but so what? You are one of those who claim voter registration should be simple and not used to suppress votes. So it’s easily accessible. Voter data is not election infrastructure anyway. Cutting and pasting material obviously doesn’t mean you understand it. As I said, government computers receive thousands of attacks. That isn’t news.
These are the same people who happily disenfranchise likely Democrats to combat nonexistent voter ID fraud, but won't raise a finger to defend our elections against documented intrusions by foreign enemies.This whole position is so odd. I never thought I’d see the day where the parties cannot even agree that securing our elections should be non political.
This points to the fundamental change. The Russians have been doing these things forever. The GOP welcoming the interference in the new piece. It’s the most unpatriotic tact they could take.
Intelligence is a liberal affliction. Symptoms include integrity, honesty, belief in science, rational argumentation, logic, reason, responsibility, caring, thinking for oneself, long attention spans, literacy, ability to differentiate, communication, sentience, and so on. It's believed to be both contagious and infectious.The Trumpbots say there's nothing to worry about. Here's the sort of thing the intelligence community is saying:
Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats raised the alarm on growing cyberattack threats against the United States, saying the situation is at a "critical point" and coming out forcefully against Russia.
"The warning signs are there. The system is blinking. It is why I believe we are at a critical point," Coats said, addressing the Hudson Institute in Washington, DC, on Friday.
"Today, the digital infrastructure that serves this country is literally under attack," he said.
Coats compared the "warning signs" to those the United States faced ahead of the September 11 terrorist attacks.
"It was in the months prior to September 2001 when, according to then-CIA Director George Tenet, the system is blinking red. And here we are nearly two decades later, and I'm here to say, the warning lights are blinking red again," Coats said.
Ever seen The Dog dog himself?He's asking for a felony to be committed. Its against the law for Jerry Nadler to have the grand jury information. Criminal juggernaut is what Jerry is trying to be. Go on - support criminal conduct - its within your sphere of hatred.
The Russians don't just have the ability to buy voter registration information (although the SIC report says they did steal it), they had the ability in 2016 to corrupt the voter registration database. Merely by changing voters' registered addresses the Russians could have created chaos at the polls when people's IDs didn't match their registrations. Is this also something I can do? If so, please let me know what precinct you vote in so I can start there.The voter data base is for sale to any willing purchaser. It is a public record. Both parties buy all or parts of it - depending on what races they need the info to contest. Even Rock could buy it and he'd have a duplicate of what his party has. He wouldn't know what to do with it, but he'd have it.
Actually an excellent idea. Use the GOP voter registration laws against the GOP. Fight fire with fire.The Russians don't just have the ability to buy voter registration information (although the SIC report says they did steal it), they had the ability in 2016 to corrupt the voter registration database. Merely by changing voters' registered addresses the Russians could have created chaos at the polls when people's IDs didn't match their registrations. Is this also something I can do? If so, please let me know what precinct you vote in so I can start there.
He's asking for a felony to be committed. Its against the law for Jerry Nadler to have the grand jury information. Criminal juggernaut is what Jerry is trying to be. Go on - support criminal conduct - its within your sphere of hatred.
The Trumpbots say there's nothing to worry about. Here's the sort of thing the intelligence community is saying:
Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats raised the alarm on growing cyberattack threats against the United States, saying the situation is at a "critical point" and coming out forcefully against Russia.
"The warning signs are there. The system is blinking. It is why I believe we are at a critical point," Coats said, addressing the Hudson Institute in Washington, DC, on Friday.
"Today, the digital infrastructure that serves this country is literally under attack," he said.
Coats compared the "warning signs" to those the United States faced ahead of the September 11 terrorist attacks.
"It was in the months prior to September 2001 when, according to then-CIA Director George Tenet, the system is blinking red. And here we are nearly two decades later, and I'm here to say, the warning lights are blinking red again," Coats said.
You answered your own question. The smart person is the Russian/hacker.
I don't think Illinois is important to them. Aside from the ploy to undermine our democracy you described, there's also tilting things in favor of the candidate of their choice. 2016 is now a precedent for Trump winning despite all polling. He can be down 10% in the 2020 polls and miraculously win the electoral college by a few votes in selected states.Right, I think 2016 was a test. I do not know when they will try something big, but it would be a mistake to assume they broke in as some sort of white hat hack.
I don't think Illinois is important to them. Aside from the ploy to undermine our democracy you described, there's also tilting things in favor of the candidate of their choice. 2016 is now a precedent for Trump winning despite all polling. He can be down 10% in the 2020 polls and miraculously win the electoral college by a few votes in selected states.
Why is he so confident he'll win?
Party affiliation of individual voters is public record, right? The hackers can be selective in who they disenfranchise.It is hard to impact an election prior to it. Take PA, to impact it one might have to prevent 40,000 Dems from voting. But given the number of non- voters one would have to alter far more records. Even in the most D precincts, 10% will vote R. So another 10% has to be factored. Some vote early and might have time to straighten it out. So more need impacted. Each change is another chance to be caught.
It could happen, but frankly it would probably be easier to blackmail a few members of the Electoral College. I do not know if that exists in novel form, I once thought of it as a Jack Ryanesque novel. A real close EC election and a foreign power blackmailing/threatening EC voters to switch.
Party affiliation of individual voters is public record, right? The hackers can be selective in who they disenfranchise.
I'll take your assertion under advisement with a healthy dose of scepticism. Impeachment may not be a criminal process but it still shows a good-faith attempt to exercise the House's authority to effect justice. It's not a political position but a question of doing what's right. Mueller's report provides enough evidence to proceed with impeachment now and a criminal trial later, your denials notwithstanding.Quigley needs to stick with shooting the bad guys in Australia. Impeachment isn’t a criminal process and it doesn’t hold POTUS accountable. There are no penalties or other sanctions. Impeachment removes him from office which no president (nor any office-holder) has a recognizable legal right to hold anyway.
I don’t think there is any doubt about SOL tolling during a time POTUS, or anyone, is temporarily immune.
You’ve pretty much misinterpreted the whole discussion.
I've got to admit; that's funny.Interestingly, it also proves you're a spiritual being because a human body can't survive in a vacuum.
"defenses are pretty good" says nothing when such defenses are adopted on a state or local level, meaning more or less vulnerabilities. We know that in Illinois votes could have been changed. Technology moves fast. We need to stay ahead of the curve or we lose. The price of freedom is constant vigilance.
Yes, this is about technology. Technology costs money. Legislation provides that money. Moscow Mitch stopped all legislation. Be honest.