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Israeli study....re natural immunity

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Vaccine recipients 6x more likely to have breakthrough infection than those who have had the disease. Natural immunity lasts longer, at least one year...they don't really know how long (editorial-but are probably understating it).

So who is the most honest---Fauci, who never talks about natural immunity, or the Senator from Kentucky?

Not acknowledging natural immunity is another big lie from the Dems and the Deep State.

The message should be.....get the vaccine if you haven't had COVID. If you think or know you've had it, get tested to insure you have the natural immunity you think you have. And watch for the studies that will show how long natural immunity lasts.
 


Vaccine recipients 6x more likely to have breakthrough infection than those who have had the disease. Natural immunity lasts longer, at least one year...they don't really know how long (editorial-but are probably understating it).

So who is the most honest---Fauci, who never talks about natural immunity, or the Senator from Kentucky?

Not acknowledging natural immunity is another big lie from the Dems and the Deep State.

The message should be.....get the vaccine if you haven't had COVID. If you think or know you've had it, get tested to insure you have the natural immunity you think you have. And watch for the studies that will show how long natural immunity lasts.
Better yet, let's just do whatever it takes to get everyone infected and get this shit over with. Call it the Southern Strategy.
 
Better yet, let's just do whatever it takes to get everyone infected and get this shit over with. Call it the Southern Strategy.
i read to reach herd immunity we need 90% vaccinated. study out of philly and mizzou. philly said 90 plus mizzou said 80-90
 
Why would he compare Sweden to Israel, and why would you think it's relevant? Why not compare Sweden to the rest of Scandanavia-the countries it borders and has similar characteristics to? For example...

Sweden has had 1.12 Million cases and 14685 deaths...
Denmark cases 344K 2580 deaths
Finland 126K 1,024 deaths
Norway 157 K 814 deaths

And just for shits and giggles...

Israel 1.05 Million cases 6989 deaths

So overall about 5,000 more people died in Sweden than in Norway, Denmark, Finland, AND Israel COMBINED? So why did that idiot seemingly applaud Sweden?

Is it population? Sweden's population is about 10.1 Million, while the rest of Scandanavia is about 15 Million. Israel is another 9 Million or so...

Also, Sweden is a much larger country in terms of landmass than Israel which has a population of about 1 Million less than Sweden but a vastly higher population density. "Natural immunity" would seem to work much more readily where people aren't crammed together and vast sections of the country are underpopulated.

And what is this BS claim that Sweden has chosen to go the "natural immunity route"? Sweden's population is fully vaccinated at a rate of 54.1%, which is higher than most states that voted for Trump in 2020...

So why does the Right always point to Leftist Sweden as some sort of paragon of success with Covid? It makes ZERO sense, esp since their economy didn't fare any better than their neighbors who enacted extreme lockdowns...

And while those on the Right in this country cheer Sweden as some sort of a success story, Swedish opinion polls have told a different story since Jan of this year...

 
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Vaccine recipients 6x more likely to have breakthrough infection than those who have had the disease. Natural immunity lasts longer, at least one year...they don't really know how long (editorial-but are probably understating it).

So who is the most honest---Fauci, who never talks about natural immunity, or the Senator from Kentucky?

Not acknowledging natural immunity is another big lie from the Dems and the Deep State.

The message should be.....get the vaccine if you haven't had COVID. If you think or know you've had it, get tested to insure you have the natural immunity you think you have. And watch for the studies that will show how long natural immunity lasts.
There's not much in your post that isn't your opinion. You didn't even analyze your own links correctly...

"The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated."

And since you brought up the idiot from Kentucky, maybe he should study the results of a study conducted in his own state, which the CDC has used in formulating their guidance that everyone is better off if vaccinated...

"The CDC study offers some real-world evidence.

Researchers studied Kentucky residents with a lab-confirmed coronavirus infection in 2020, the vast majority of them between October and December. They compared 246 people who got reinfected in May or June of this year with 492 similar survivors who stayed healthy. The survivors who never got vaccinated had a significantly higher risk of reinfection than those who were fully vaccinated, even though most had their first bout of COVID-19 just six to nine months ago."


Those Kentucky results basically destroy your claim that "immunity" lasts a year, and that they ( whoever the hell "they" is) are "understating" the time frame...
 
"The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated."

The survivors who never got vaccinated had a significantly higher risk of reinfection than those who were fully vaccinated, even though most had their first bout of COVID-19 just six to nine months ago."

Self pwning is an art form. This was a good example. But the best we've seen most recently is posting a story from the Babylon Bee as a straight up news story.
 


Vaccine recipients 6x more likely to have breakthrough infection than those who have had the disease. Natural immunity lasts longer, at least one year...they don't really know how long (editorial-but are probably understating it).

So who is the most honest---Fauci, who never talks about natural immunity, or the Senator from Kentucky?

Not acknowledging natural immunity is another big lie from the Dems and the Deep State.

The message should be.....get the vaccine if you haven't had COVID. If you think or know you've had it, get tested to insure you have the natural immunity you think you have. And watch for the studies that will show how long natural immunity lasts.
What's most interesting is the second article you link (in a political site) does exactly what the first (a science site) warns against, suggesting the best immunity option is to catch COVID and recover.
 
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Self pwning is an art form. This was a good example. But the best we've seen most recently is posting a story from the Babylon Bee as a straight up news story.

I did see that. The second article indicates they are twice as likely to be reinfected as those who had covid but not the shot(but the later 1/6 as likely to be infected to those vaccinated who have never had covid).

So should someone who is already 6x more protected than those with only a shot get the shot? Certainly, they shouldn't be FORCED to. Whether they should turns on cost-benefit. We know this is the most dangerous vaccine ever. And those who have had the COVID are more at risk for side-effects. How much more at risk? Nobody knows, because no one in authority is particularly interested in us knowing. I'm now in the situation of having the shot and later having covid. I'd like to have accurate #s all around when it comes to booster time. These #s are out there.....why can't they be published in one place?
 
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Why would he compare Sweden to Israel, and why would you think it's relevant? Why not compare Sweden to the rest of Scandanavia-the countries it borders and has similar characteristics to? For example...

Sweden has had 1.12 Million cases and 14685 deaths...
Denmark cases 344K 2580 deaths
Finland 126K 1,024 deaths
Norway 157 K 814 deaths

And just for shits and giggles...

Israel 1.05 Million cases 6989 deaths

So overall about 5,000 more people died in Sweden than in Norway, Denmark, Finland, AND Israel COMBINED? So why did that idiot seemingly applaud Sweden?

Is it population? Sweden's population is about 10.1 Million, while the rest of Scandanavia is about 15 Million. Israel is another 9 Million or so...

Also, Sweden is a much larger country in terms of landmass than Israel which has a population of about 1 Million less than Sweden but a vastly higher population density. "Natural immunity" would seem to work much more readily where people aren't crammed together and vast sections of the country are underpopulated.

And what is this BS claim that Sweden has chosen to go the "natural immunity route"? Sweden's population is fully vaccinated at a rate of 54.1%, which is higher than most states that voted for Trump in 2020...

So why does the Right always point to Leftist Sweden as some sort of paragon of success with Covid? It makes ZERO sense, esp since their economy didn't fare any better than their neighbors who enacted extreme lockdowns...

And while those on the Right in this country cheer Sweden as some sort of a success story, Swedish opinion polls have told a different story since Jan of this year...

"And what is this BS claim that Sweden has chosen to go the "natural immunity route"? Sweden's population is fully vaccinated at a rate of 54.1%"

You are one who claims a 54.% rate is low. Do you think 'natural immunity' only applies to those who've had the virus? No - some people are naturally immune anyway.

You contradict yourself all over the place. You complain Sweden has more cases and deaths than other Scandinavian coutries, and then point out it has a much higher population.

It scares the hell out of you that natural immunity is more effective for preventing serious illness than vaccines. Because it's ALL about politics to you.
 
I did see that. The second article indicates they are twice as likely to be reinfected as those who had covid but not the shot(but the later 1/6 as likely to be infected to those vaccinated who have never had covid).

So should someone who is already 6x more protected than those with only a shot get the shot? Certainly, they shouldn't be FORCED to. Whether they should turns on cost-benefit. We know this is the most dangerous vaccine ever. And those who have had the COVID are more at risk for side-effects. How much more at risk? Nobody knows, because no one in authority is particularly interested in us knowing. I'm now in the situation of having the shot and later having covid. I'd like to have accurate #s all around when it comes to booster time. These #s are out there.....why can't they be published in one place?

most dangerous vaccine ever?

Most stupid comment ever.
 

Well. we know this....From 2000-2020 there were 1005 reports of deaths from all vaccines, combined, through the VAERS system. As of July 26, 2021, there were 6340 VAERS reported deaths shortly after covid vaccinations (One story attached below indicated that the CDC first reported 12313, then modified the # to 6340. No explanation was given as to how/why this modification was made. Isn't that odd?).

The "fact checkers" explain this by correctly asserting that reported covid deaths do not prove causation. True enough. Also, that for covid reporting ALL adverse events must be reported(if known to a MD), but not so for other vaccines. But, fact-checking the fact-checkers, the VAERS "Table of Reportable Events" does requires DEATHS from all prior vaccines to be reported.

I personally had fairly a fairly severe reaction to the vaccine, including a 103* temp, and know many other people have reported such reactions. How many people do you know who have reported serious reactions to other vaccines (or to their children)? Not very damn many.


Also:


COVID-19 Vaccine Related Fatalities Updated​


Fact checked by Robert Carlson, MD
+ 1
Published
July 21, 2021
Fact checked
August 2, 2021
VAERS confirmed over 6000 additional COVID-19 vaccine death reports
CDC building in atlanta


Updated July 23, 2021


ATLANTA (Precision Vaccinations)
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed an increased number of deaths reported after a COVID-19 vaccination. Between December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) received 12,313 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.
UPDATE: As of 2:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC's website modified the number of VAERS reports related to COVID-19 vaccination deaths from 12,313 to 6,079, through July 13, 2021. The CDC's webpage's Last Update date remains July 19, 2021.
UPDATE #2: As of 6:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC's website stated through July 19, 2021, VAERS had received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. The CDC's webpage's Last Update date reflects July 21, 2021.

Since more than 338 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the USA, this data reflects a vaccination-death ratio of 0.0018%.
The CDC’s website says, ‘Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. This is because the U.S. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after a COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.
Furthermore, a review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines, says the CDC.
Additionally, VAERS had received 1,148 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received a COVID-19 vaccine as of July 19th. The CDC and its partners are investigating these reports to assess whether there is a relationship to COVID-19 vaccination.
Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, the CDC and Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have confirmed 674 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis. In both cases, the body’s immune system causes inflammation in response to an infection or some other trigger.

Most of these heart inflammation cases have been reported to the CDC after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Comirnaty or SpikeVax), particularly in male adolescents and young adults.
VAERS is the USA’s early warning system that monitors the safety of vaccines after they are Authorized or Licensed for use by the U.S. FDA.
As of July 21, 2021, the FDA had issued three Emergency Use Authorizations for COVID-19 vaccines. However, these experimental vaccines have not been approved by the FDA.
VAERS is part of the more extensive vaccine safety system, co-managed by the CDC and FDA. VAERS accepts and analyzes reports of possible health problems—also called “adverse events”—after vaccination.
Sponsored Links:
DiscountsAppointmentsClinical TrialsLab Tests
As an early warning system, VAERS cannot prove that a vaccine caused a problem, says the CDC.
Specifically, a report to VAERS does not mean that a vaccine caused an adverse event. But VAERS can give CDC and FDA important information. If it looks as though a vaccine might be causing a problem, FDA and CDC will investigate further and take action if needed.
Furthermore, anyone can submit a report to VAERS. Most VAERS reports are filed by healthcare professionals, vaccine manufacturers, and the general public. VAERS welcomes all reports, regardless of the seriousness or how likely the vaccine may have caused the adverse event.
The United Kingdom (UK) health system has a similar strategy.
As of July 7, 2021, the UK’s Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) had received 456 Yellow Card reports of suspected adverse drug reactions to the Pfizer- BioNTech (Comirnaty) vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 983 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria), and 7 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna (SpikeVax).
The majority of these Yellow Card reports were in older people or people with underlying illnesses says the UK’s MHRA.
PrecisionVaccinations publishes research-based, fact-checked vaccine news.
 
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Well. we know this....From 2000-2020 there were 1005 reports of deaths from all vaccines, combined, through the VAERS system. As of July 26, 2021, there were 6340 VAERS reported deaths shortly after covid vaccinations (One story attached below indicated that the CDC first reported 12313, then modified the # to 6340. No explanation was given as to how/why this modification was made. Isn't that odd?).

The "fact checkers" explain this by correctly asserting that reported covid deaths do not prove causation. True enough. Also, that for covid reporting ALL adverse events must be reported(if known to a MD), but not so for other vaccines. But, fact-checking the fact-checkers, the VAERS "Table of Reportable Events" does requires DEATHS from all prior vaccines to be reported.

I personally had fairly a fairly severe reaction to the vaccine, including a 103* temp, and know many other people have reported such reactions. How many people do you know who have reported serious reactions to other vaccines (or to their children)? Not very damn many.


Also:


COVID-19 Vaccine Related Fatalities Updated​


Fact checked by Robert Carlson, MD
+ 1
Published
July 21, 2021
Fact checked
August 2, 2021
VAERS confirmed over 6000 additional COVID-19 vaccine death reports
CDC building in atlanta


Updated July 23, 2021


ATLANTA (Precision Vaccinations)
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed an increased number of deaths reported after a COVID-19 vaccination. Between December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) received 12,313 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.
UPDATE: As of 2:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC's website modified the number of VAERS reports related to COVID-19 vaccination deaths from 12,313 to 6,079, through July 13, 2021. The CDC's webpage's Last Update date remains July 19, 2021.
UPDATE #2: As of 6:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC's website stated through July 19, 2021, VAERS had received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. The CDC's webpage's Last Update date reflects July 21, 2021.

Since more than 338 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the USA, this data reflects a vaccination-death ratio of 0.0018%.
The CDC’s website says, ‘Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. This is because the U.S. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after a COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.
Furthermore, a review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines, says the CDC.
Additionally, VAERS had received 1,148 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received a COVID-19 vaccine as of July 19th. The CDC and its partners are investigating these reports to assess whether there is a relationship to COVID-19 vaccination.
Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, the CDC and Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have confirmed 674 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis. In both cases, the body’s immune system causes inflammation in response to an infection or some other trigger.

Most of these heart inflammation cases have been reported to the CDC after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Comirnaty or SpikeVax), particularly in male adolescents and young adults.
VAERS is the USA’s early warning system that monitors the safety of vaccines after they are Authorized or Licensed for use by the U.S. FDA.
As of July 21, 2021, the FDA had issued three Emergency Use Authorizations for COVID-19 vaccines. However, these experimental vaccines have not been approved by the FDA.
VAERS is part of the more extensive vaccine safety system, co-managed by the CDC and FDA. VAERS accepts and analyzes reports of possible health problems—also called “adverse events”—after vaccination.
Sponsored Links:
DiscountsAppointmentsClinical TrialsLab Tests
As an early warning system, VAERS cannot prove that a vaccine caused a problem, says the CDC.
Specifically, a report to VAERS does not mean that a vaccine caused an adverse event. But VAERS can give CDC and FDA important information. If it looks as though a vaccine might be causing a problem, FDA and CDC will investigate further and take action if needed.
Furthermore, anyone can submit a report to VAERS. Most VAERS reports are filed by healthcare professionals, vaccine manufacturers, and the general public. VAERS welcomes all reports, regardless of the seriousness or how likely the vaccine may have caused the adverse event.
The United Kingdom (UK) health system has a similar strategy.
As of July 7, 2021, the UK’s Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) had received 456 Yellow Card reports of suspected adverse drug reactions to the Pfizer- BioNTech (Comirnaty) vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 983 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria), and 7 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna (SpikeVax).
The majority of these Yellow Card reports were in older people or people with underlying illnesses says the UK’s MHRA.
PrecisionVaccinations publishes research-based, fact-checked vaccine news.

I had the exact same reaction to the covid vaccine as flu shot.

You guys want to brag about how unlikely it is to die from covid but negative effects from the vaccine is a much, much, much smaller percentage but you claim that is dangerous. lmao
 
There's not much in your post that isn't your opinion. You didn't even analyze your own links correctly...

"The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated."

And since you brought up the idiot from Kentucky, maybe he should study the results of a study conducted in his own state, which the CDC has used in formulating their guidance that everyone is better off if vaccinated...

"The CDC study offers some real-world evidence.

Researchers studied Kentucky residents with a lab-confirmed coronavirus infection in 2020, the vast majority of them between October and December. They compared 246 people who got reinfected in May or June of this year with 492 similar survivors who stayed healthy. The survivors who never got vaccinated had a significantly higher risk of reinfection than those who were fully vaccinated, even though most had their first bout of COVID-19 just six to nine months ago."


Those Kentucky results basically destroy your claim that "immunity" lasts a year, and that they ( whoever the hell "they" is) are "understating" the time frame...

And still 1/6 as likely to be infected as those who have not have covid at all, but have had the vaccination.
Now give me the #s on how much more dangerous the vaccine is for people who have had covid v. those who have not.
 
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Y'all enjoy the covid lung, fatigue and erectile dysfunction.

Not that lazy sexless fat people like y'all would be impacted but at least ya won't breed ..

Yee haw .... get you some covid and show them vaxxers you smart.
 
I had the exact same reaction to the covid vaccine as flu shot.

You guys want to brag about how unlikely it is to die from covid but negative effects from the vaccine is a much, much, much smaller percentage but you claim that is dangerous. lmaoI

Het moron, I've never 'bragged about how unlikely it is to die from covid'. So you do not know what the f*** you're talking about.
 
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Y'all enjoy the covid lung, fatigue and erectile dysfunction.

Not that lazy sexless fat people like y'all would be impacted but at least ya won't breed ..

Yee haw .... get you some covid and show them vaxxers you smart.
Sounds like you have experience, especially in erectile dysfunction. Encil.
 
Well. we know this....From 2000-2020 there were 1005 reports of deaths from all vaccines, combined, through the VAERS system. As of July 26, 2021, there were 6340 VAERS reported deaths shortly after covid vaccinations (One story attached below indicated that the CDC first reported 12313, then modified the # to 6340. No explanation was given as to how/why this modification was made. Isn't that odd?).

The "fact checkers" explain this by correctly asserting that reported covid deaths do not prove causation. True enough. Also, that for covid reporting ALL adverse events must be reported(if known to a MD), but not so for other vaccines. But, fact-checking the fact-checkers, the VAERS "Table of Reportable Events" does requires DEATHS from all prior vaccines to be reported.

I personally had fairly a fairly severe reaction to the vaccine, including a 103* temp, and know many other people have reported such reactions. How many people do you know who have reported serious reactions to other vaccines (or to their children)? Not very damn many.


Also:


COVID-19 Vaccine Related Fatalities Updated​


Fact checked by Robert Carlson, MD
+ 1
Published
July 21, 2021
Fact checked
August 2, 2021
VAERS confirmed over 6000 additional COVID-19 vaccine death reports
CDC building in atlanta


Updated July 23, 2021


ATLANTA (Precision Vaccinations)
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed an increased number of deaths reported after a COVID-19 vaccination. Between December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) received 12,313 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.
UPDATE: As of 2:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC's website modified the number of VAERS reports related to COVID-19 vaccination deaths from 12,313 to 6,079, through July 13, 2021. The CDC's webpage's Last Update date remains July 19, 2021.
UPDATE #2: As of 6:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC's website stated through July 19, 2021, VAERS had received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. The CDC's webpage's Last Update date reflects July 21, 2021.

Since more than 338 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the USA, this data reflects a vaccination-death ratio of 0.0018%.
The CDC’s website says, ‘Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. This is because the U.S. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after a COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.
Furthermore, a review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines, says the CDC.
Additionally, VAERS had received 1,148 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received a COVID-19 vaccine as of July 19th. The CDC and its partners are investigating these reports to assess whether there is a relationship to COVID-19 vaccination.
Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, the CDC and Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have confirmed 674 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis. In both cases, the body’s immune system causes inflammation in response to an infection or some other trigger.

Most of these heart inflammation cases have been reported to the CDC after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Comirnaty or SpikeVax), particularly in male adolescents and young adults.
VAERS is the USA’s early warning system that monitors the safety of vaccines after they are Authorized or Licensed for use by the U.S. FDA.
As of July 21, 2021, the FDA had issued three Emergency Use Authorizations for COVID-19 vaccines. However, these experimental vaccines have not been approved by the FDA.
VAERS is part of the more extensive vaccine safety system, co-managed by the CDC and FDA. VAERS accepts and analyzes reports of possible health problems—also called “adverse events”—after vaccination.
Sponsored Links:
DiscountsAppointmentsClinical TrialsLab Tests
As an early warning system, VAERS cannot prove that a vaccine caused a problem, says the CDC.
Specifically, a report to VAERS does not mean that a vaccine caused an adverse event. But VAERS can give CDC and FDA important information. If it looks as though a vaccine might be causing a problem, FDA and CDC will investigate further and take action if needed.
Furthermore, anyone can submit a report to VAERS. Most VAERS reports are filed by healthcare professionals, vaccine manufacturers, and the general public. VAERS welcomes all reports, regardless of the seriousness or how likely the vaccine may have caused the adverse event.
The United Kingdom (UK) health system has a similar strategy.
As of July 7, 2021, the UK’s Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) had received 456 Yellow Card reports of suspected adverse drug reactions to the Pfizer- BioNTech (Comirnaty) vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 983 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria), and 7 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna (SpikeVax).
The majority of these Yellow Card reports were in older people or people with underlying illnesses says the UK’s MHRA.
PrecisionVaccinations publishes research-based, fact-checked vaccine news.
Thanks for the link. I had not read this.

But aside from the argument it's an apples vs oranges data comparison, it's also comparing well-established flu vaccines with brand new COVID vaccines. That's only a comparison if they're more dangerous than current flu vaccines, not a basis to proclaim the COVID vaccines the most dangerous vaccines ever.
 
Rand Paul...... wasn't he the Senator who, with his wife, was accosted on the streets of Washington DC by Antifa and/or BLM?

I wonder why nobody thinks that was an attempt on the government? Or the assassination attempt on Steve Scalise and other Congressmen?

But sniveling AOC, locked in a room......ooooooohhhh...... that's bad.
 
Rand Paul...... wasn't he the Senator who, with his wife, was accosted on the streets of Washington DC by Antifa and/or BLM?

I wonder why nobody thinks that was an attempt on the government? Or the assassination attempt on Steve Scalise and other Congressmen?

But sniveling AOC, locked in a room......ooooooohhhh...... that's bad.
And he credited the DC Police Department with responding to "save his life." He also got his butt kicked by his neighbor, who got prison time.

When did the right become such VICTIMS? Give me the RINOS Bob Dole and John McCain every day of the week.
 
Well. we know this....From 2000-2020 there were 1005 reports of deaths from all vaccines, combined, through the VAERS system. As of July 26, 2021, there were 6340 VAERS reported deaths shortly after covid vaccinations (One story attached below indicated that the CDC first reported 12313, then modified the # to 6340. No explanation was given as to how/why this modification was made. Isn't that odd?).

The "fact checkers" explain this by correctly asserting that reported covid deaths do not prove causation. True enough. Also, that for covid reporting ALL adverse events must be reported(if known to a MD), but not so for other vaccines. But, fact-checking the fact-checkers, the VAERS "Table of Reportable Events" does requires DEATHS from all prior vaccines to be reported.

I personally had fairly a fairly severe reaction to the vaccine, including a 103* temp, and know many other people have reported such reactions. How many people do you know who have reported serious reactions to other vaccines (or to their children)? Not very damn many.


Also:


COVID-19 Vaccine Related Fatalities Updated​


Fact checked by Robert Carlson, MD
+ 1
Published
July 21, 2021
Fact checked
August 2, 2021
VAERS confirmed over 6000 additional COVID-19 vaccine death reports
CDC building in atlanta


Updated July 23, 2021


ATLANTA (Precision Vaccinations)
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed an increased number of deaths reported after a COVID-19 vaccination. Between December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) received 12,313 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.
UPDATE: As of 2:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC's website modified the number of VAERS reports related to COVID-19 vaccination deaths from 12,313 to 6,079, through July 13, 2021. The CDC's webpage's Last Update date remains July 19, 2021.
UPDATE #2: As of 6:30 PM CT on July 21, 2021, the CDC's website stated through July 19, 2021, VAERS had received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. The CDC's webpage's Last Update date reflects July 21, 2021.

Since more than 338 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the USA, this data reflects a vaccination-death ratio of 0.0018%.
The CDC’s website says, ‘Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. This is because the U.S. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after a COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.
Furthermore, a review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines, says the CDC.
Additionally, VAERS had received 1,148 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received a COVID-19 vaccine as of July 19th. The CDC and its partners are investigating these reports to assess whether there is a relationship to COVID-19 vaccination.
Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, the CDC and Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have confirmed 674 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis. In both cases, the body’s immune system causes inflammation in response to an infection or some other trigger.

Most of these heart inflammation cases have been reported to the CDC after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Comirnaty or SpikeVax), particularly in male adolescents and young adults.
VAERS is the USA’s early warning system that monitors the safety of vaccines after they are Authorized or Licensed for use by the U.S. FDA.
As of July 21, 2021, the FDA had issued three Emergency Use Authorizations for COVID-19 vaccines. However, these experimental vaccines have not been approved by the FDA.
VAERS is part of the more extensive vaccine safety system, co-managed by the CDC and FDA. VAERS accepts and analyzes reports of possible health problems—also called “adverse events”—after vaccination.
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As an early warning system, VAERS cannot prove that a vaccine caused a problem, says the CDC.
Specifically, a report to VAERS does not mean that a vaccine caused an adverse event. But VAERS can give CDC and FDA important information. If it looks as though a vaccine might be causing a problem, FDA and CDC will investigate further and take action if needed.
Furthermore, anyone can submit a report to VAERS. Most VAERS reports are filed by healthcare professionals, vaccine manufacturers, and the general public. VAERS welcomes all reports, regardless of the seriousness or how likely the vaccine may have caused the adverse event.
The United Kingdom (UK) health system has a similar strategy.
As of July 7, 2021, the UK’s Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) had received 456 Yellow Card reports of suspected adverse drug reactions to the Pfizer- BioNTech (Comirnaty) vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 983 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria), and 7 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna (SpikeVax).
The majority of these Yellow Card reports were in older people or people with underlying illnesses says the UK’s MHRA.
PrecisionVaccinations publishes research-based, fact-checked vaccine news.
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I noticed DANC, cray, or JoeHoopsier did not call you out you out for such a long post.
So, do you get paid by the word?
:rolleyes:
 
And he credited the DC Police Department with responding to "save his life." He also got his butt kicked by his neighbor, who got prison time.

When did the right become such VICTIMS? Give me the RINOS Bob Dole and John McCain every day of the week.
The right? LMAO! The Democrat Congress were pissing down their leg when unarmed protesters entered the Capitol building.

And one unarmed woman was killed - by the Capitol Police.

Who are the ones acting like victims?
 
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