Impeachment
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WaPo reports moderate Dems in Trump districts have shifted in the last day to support proceeding.
THE BIG IDEA: Several House Democrats facing tough reelection fights next year in districts that Donald Trump carried in 2016 are expressing openness to impeachment for the first time, a major tipping point that reflects their palpable outrage over the president’s purported conduct toward Ukraine and will intensify pressure on their colleagues who hold safer seats to follow suit.
The latest is freshman Rep. Haley Stevens of Michigan. She picked up an open seat in the Detroit suburbs last fall that Republicans had held for decades. Trump won the district three years ago by 4.4 percentage points. In a statement sent after 7 a.m., Stevens said she did not get to this point lightly – “but rather out of a sober obligation to stand up for the rule of law and our national security.”
“Over the last several days, I have been deeply alarmed by reports of serious abuse of power by President Trump,” Stevens wrote. “The President is alleged to have used the power of his office to pressure a foreign head of state for his own personal political gain. Furthermore, the Director of National Intelligence continues to illegally withhold information about this matter from Congress. If investigations confirm recent reports, these actions represent impeachable offences that threaten to undermine the integrity of our elections and jeopardize the balance of power within the federal government.”
The latest is freshman Rep. Haley Stevens of Michigan. She picked up an open seat in the Detroit suburbs last fall that Republicans had held for decades. Trump won the district three years ago by 4.4 percentage points. In a statement sent after 7 a.m., Stevens said she did not get to this point lightly – “but rather out of a sober obligation to stand up for the rule of law and our national security.”
“Over the last several days, I have been deeply alarmed by reports of serious abuse of power by President Trump,” Stevens wrote. “The President is alleged to have used the power of his office to pressure a foreign head of state for his own personal political gain. Furthermore, the Director of National Intelligence continues to illegally withhold information about this matter from Congress. If investigations confirm recent reports, these actions represent impeachable offences that threaten to undermine the integrity of our elections and jeopardize the balance of power within the federal government.”
YES! I hope they move forward with this. It will help Trump get re-elected!
Do you really think impeachment proceedings will make him more popular with a majority of Americans? Sure, it will anger his base.
But I don't see how it's good for him with the critical middle-of-the-road voters. That's why it's so significant that many of the House Dems who represent those voters only shifted their opinions on proceeding in the last 24-48 hours. They see how Biden-gate is playing out with the people they represent.
They really need to put some teeth in contempt and start fining and locking up people in the Capitol Building if the executive branch doesn't comply.
Whistleblower wants to meet with Schiff, but the dumbass Boy Scout is asking for "guidance" from acting DNI Maguire on how to go about that. Yeah, right. He'll get everything lined right up for you, buddy.
How about you walk into the the Capital and ask someone to direct you to the office of Adam Schiff?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...lk-to-house-intelligence-committee/ar-AAHMIur
How about you walk into the the Capital and ask someone to direct you to the office of Adam Schiff?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...lk-to-house-intelligence-committee/ar-AAHMIur
The law requires he do it this way. He can't just wall up to Congress.
The law also says the DNI shall forward the report to Congress. That's shall as in SHALL. Lotta good that does.
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It’s almost as if whistleblower is a legal term and not some Johnny Do-goodie-Woke term.
The procedures and protections of the statute are being defied by the administration. At what point do we realize we're going by the Marquis of Queensberry rules while Trump is using brass knuckles?
It seems the stock market has more to do with his idiotic nationalism speech to the UN.
Senate passes unanimous resolution demanding whistleblower complaint
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/t...up-over-trump-ukraine-call-live-updates-2019/
4:45 p.m.: The Republican-led Senate unanimously passed a resolution calling on the acting director of national intelligence to provide the whistleblower complaint to the intelligence committees.
The administration has so far refused to provide the complaint to Congress, saying the report does not constitute an "urgent threat" requiring congressional notification.
The upper chamber adopted the resolution introduced by Democratic Minority Leader Chuck Schumer by voice vote on Tuesday afternoon.
The resolution says the House and Senate Intelligence Committees "should be allowed to evaluate the complaint in a deliberate and bipartisan manner consistent with applicable statutes and processes in order to safeguard classified and sensitive information."
The administration has so far refused to provide the complaint to Congress, saying the report does not constitute an "urgent threat" requiring congressional notification.
The upper chamber adopted the resolution introduced by Democratic Minority Leader Chuck Schumer by voice vote on Tuesday afternoon.
The resolution says the House and Senate Intelligence Committees "should be allowed to evaluate the complaint in a deliberate and bipartisan manner consistent with applicable statutes and processes in order to safeguard classified and sensitive information."
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/t...up-over-trump-ukraine-call-live-updates-2019/
Same here. Let Joe take one for the team.
I’d think the current VP is sweating this one too. He appears to be implicated in meetings and communications with Ukraine.
I don't think the markets care much about it.... it reacts more than this move today from a dumb tweet
The Dems need to get rid of both. This will be fun to watch.
Holding people accountable to the law is good for markets in the long-term.
You may have spoken too soon. The Dow closed down only about a half a per cent, nothing to worry about.
The least disruptive and practical (given the GOP control of the Senate) is to "impeach" Trump by defeating him in the 2020 election.
I mention "disruptive" because Trump operates best in chaos. The impeachment process can be pure chaos.
Pelosi has it right.
I mention "disruptive" because Trump operates best in chaos. The impeachment process can be pure chaos.
Pelosi has it right.
Politico now reporting that Trump will release the whistleblower statement.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/24/white-house-whistleblower-complaint-release-1510341
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/24/white-house-whistleblower-complaint-release-1510341
Those of us who care more about our health than our 401ks can live with that.
Prepared and released by a graduate of the Rose Mary Woods School of Contortion and Transcription.
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LOL. That's what I figure will be the case with the "transcript" of the phone call Trump says he'll release. But the whistleblower's original complaint may be trustworthy. The whistleblower himself can call bullshit once it's released if it's been altered.
Are you three sane? The victim should withdraw because a psychotic megalomaniac has demand he be investigated? Is that the standard?
So the day after Biden withdraws, Trump calls for Harvard to investigate Warren, Warren must withdraw?
Talk about nuts...
I'm guessing you have neither, so it's probably a moot statement
But the two magic words (national security) have already been invoked, we may never know the identity of the whistler or the contents of the report. Although, something changed Pelosi's mind about impeachment, I just hope she is well informed with something more than news stories or considerations of vulnerable House seats.
I believe Trump is only in the position to release the telephone transcript. We have no idea what the whistleblower's statement will be. I would take any transcript coming out of the white house with a grain of salt. The dude sharpied on a map.
Also worth noting this passed 100-0.
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