Are we saying John Groce left things at Illinois better than Crean did at IU? If so let’s hire Groce
Here we go again......The combination of Brad Underwood and Orlando Antigua are as slimy as it gets. They’re cheating in Urbana Champagne. No doubt about it.
Uh no would take Chris Beard right nor face facts Illinois is doing well and Underwood hired same year as lil ArchIs Underwood our new coach of the week to compare to Archie? The list is getting long. Let me see if I remember them all:
Mack (until we beat them)
Holtmann (until they lost in the NCAA)
Beard (until he lost the title game and started the next year 5-3)
Holtmann again (until they shit the bed this year)
Jordan (until they lost 3 in a row in the big east)
Underwood
You'll love their overplay everything defense. It really goes over great on the road against good teams in the BIG when the refs just whistle them to death.
Who am I forgetting? I don't really count Stevens and Donovan.
Underwood woulda been fired after year two if you were in charge.Uh no would take Chris Beard right nor face facts Illinois is doing well and Underwood hired same year as lil Arch
Wrong- 3 years it takes 3 years to show somethingUnderwood woulda been fired after year two if you were in charge.
The combination of Brad Underwood and Orlando Antigua are as slimy as it gets. They’re cheating in Urbana Champagne. No doubt about it.
I said weeks ago this illinois team was legit. He has brought in good talent3rd year at Illinois. Playing his recruits, keep making your Archie excuses.
Wrong- 3 years it takes 3 years to show something
Archie is a good coach but like Brian Snow said in the podcast will his results be enough to satisfy Indiana fans, especially if by year 5-7 there is no final four trip....................I think it will be tough.
But last year you were dogging on Archie. You know, his SECOND year?Wrong- 3 years it takes 3 years to show something
In his second season at Texas Tech Chris Beard went to Elite Eight now in his 3rd season they are ranked 14. Bob Knight disciple. There is such a blatant attempt by this administration to cut all ties with Knight. So yes you can win big in your second season. I guess Chris Beard was left with better players.
Anyone who claims that when Archie was hired they would be ok with not making the tourney until his 4th year is a complete liar.
I’ll tell you what is BS. The entire narrative that it’s never the coaches fault. According to Colin Hartman (podcast) he says it’s the players lack of heart that is the problem and not Archie’s coaching/motivation. I call BS on this. If this were the case then coaches would never get fired as it couldn’t be their fault the team wasn’t ready to play it’s the players fault. It absolutely is the coaches job to have them ready and if they aren’t gonna play with heart, don’t f//king play them.
I agree Fire his ass today this is total bullshit, gophers aren’t even that good
He’s got a difference maker at guard. Dosunmu has won several games for the Illini by himself.Underwood can recruit(Antigua helps.) Archie can’t. It’s that simple.
I live right on the border. Want me to ship you some Illini gear?
There are some losses there in that stretch of games for IllIllinois next 5 games:
@ Iowa
Vs MD
Vs Michigan State
@Rutgers
@ PSU
Gonna be interesting to see where this thread is at, after this stretch.
IU next five games:There are some losses there in that stretch of games for Ill
Is Underwood our new coach of the week to compare to Archie? The list is getting long. Let me see if I remember them all:
Mack (until we beat them)
Holtmann (until they lost in the NCAA)
Beard (until he lost the title game and started the next year 5-3)
Holtmann again (until they shit the bed this year)
Jordan (until they lost 3 in a row in the big east)
Underwood
You'll love their overplay everything defense. It really goes over great on the road against good teams in the BIG when the refs just whistle them to death.
Who am I forgetting? I don't really count Stevens and Donovan.
I agreeIU next five games:
@Ohio State
Purdue
Iowa
@Michigan
@Minnesota
I see a few losses there as well.
Why don't we ship them Victorbear instead. He can than talk about Lil Brad and chortle about how clever he is.I live right on the border. Want me to ship you some Illini gear?
Wow, big statement. Maybe the guy can coach. He sure did at SAThe combination of Brad Underwood and Orlando Antigua are as slimy as it gets. They’re cheating in Urbana Champagne. No doubt about it.
Yep it's always the IU fall back when other programs that we view as inferior are winning, "they must be cheating".Wow, big statement. Maybe the guy can coach. He sure did at SA
I'm sure that poohbear is posting from a mental institution.Is Underwood our new coach of the week to compare to Archie? The list is getting long. Let me see if I remember them all:
Mack (until we beat them)
Holtmann (until they lost in the NCAA)
Beard (until he lost the title game and started the next year 5-3)
Holtmann again (until they shit the bed this year)
Jordan (until they lost 3 in a row in the big east)
Underwood
You'll love their overplay everything defense. It really goes over great on the road against good teams in the BIG when the refs just whistle them to death.
Who am I forgetting? I don't really count Stevens and Donovan.
Right because they are CHEATERS!!! Love, The ApologistsIllinois having talent should not surprise anybody. With the right coaches , they have always had good recruiting territory. They were stacked in the past. Nick Anderson , Marcus Liberty, Kenny Battle , etc. now they’re starting to get better talent again.
It pays. Look at lsu and arizona. There are no consequencesApparently, everyone cheats except us.
Sure are. But we ain't tlking about IU. We are talking about Underwood---The next, next guy we should hire.IU next five games:
@Ohio State
Purdue
Iowa
@Michigan
@Minnesota
I see a few losses there as well.
Steve Pickiell from Rutgets. I've watched them for 3 years and would trade him for Archie in a heartbeat.
Look, both sides play this game. Side A says "We should have hired Coach A, B or C, look how they're doing"..Side B says "You said you liked Coach D, E, or F, he sucks, he's lost 5 in a row".
The bottom line is 90% of us liked CAM's hire. It hasn't worked out. There's no guarantee another coach would do better, but if CAM continues to disappoint, you have to try.
We cheat and are really bad as some people here were saying Crean cheated!!!Apparently, everyone cheats except us.
First we need to hire a good AD ha ha ha ha haIf Archie bombs, let’s replace him.
But let’s be honest: it’s not happening (if it even does) until March 2021. A new AD will have next year to evaluate Miller and decide if he feels replacement is warranted.
Pat Kraft first choice; Chris Reynolds as alternative choice.First we need to hire a good AD ha ha ha ha ha
Does that give you enough time to make a statue of Archie? You’re oddly obsessed.If Archie bombs, let’s replace him.
But let’s be honest: it’s not happening (if it even does) until March 2021. A new AD will have next year to evaluate Miller and decide if he feels replacement is warranted.