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if true, and known, would our govt still deny it on both sides of the aisle.

not something we haven't all speculated to ourselves about.

it will be interesting to see how much this gets buried by the media and the govt.




 
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To be more precise, I read the original journal articles explaining why the virus almost certainly originated in nature. The new report by the Chinese scientist offers nothing new, and has been roundly dismissed by scientists.

 
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Oh, and one of the founders of the “research institute” behind the paper, a “research institute” of zero credibility, is none other than Steve Bannon.
 
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if true, and known, would our govt still deny it on both sides of the aisle.

not something we haven't all speculated to ourselves about.

it will be interesting to see how much this gets buried by the media and the govt.




Noodle depants you in under 10 minutes. Like all good Pubs, you can't let a good conspiracy go. Way to work a mainstream media bash in too. Bravo.
 
My Brother died today, and this thread still made me laugh out loud...

Yikes Cosmic, so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine the feeling of losing a sibling (I've lost parents and grandparents but my sisters are in good shape now).

Gotta be a different feeling.

Condolences my brother.
 
Because I read.
To be more precise, I read the original journal articles explaining why the virus almost certainly originated in nature. The new report by the Chinese scientist offers nothing new, and has been roundly dismissed by scientists.

Oh, and one of the founders of the “research institute” behind the paper, a “research institute” of zero credibility, is none other than Steve Bannon.
Oh, and the other founder of the Rule of Law Society (the entity behind the paper - not really a research institute)? The Chinese businessman who fled China and on whose yacht Bannon was on when he was arrested recently. Still want to hitch your wagon to these clowns?




nothing to see here, move along.

from your quoted Newsweek article.

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The paper, "Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Sophisticated Laboratory Modification Rather Than Natural Evolution and Delineation of Its Probable Synthetic Route," is authored by Dr. Li-Meng Yan and three colleagues affiliated with the Rule of Law Society, a group not known for its work on infectious disease.
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wtf happened to Newsweek?

is it even remotely possible to totally misrepresent who Li-Meng Yan and her colleagues are any more than this, and do so deliberately, knowingly, and with malice, for the express purpose of falsely discrediting who she and her colleagues are.



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"Background
Yan's hometown is Qingdao.[7] Yan received her MD degree from Xiangya Medical College of Central South University. She went on to earn her PhD from Southern Medical University.[8] Her research includes the study of The inhibition effect of propranolol on the corneal neovascularization in an alkali-induced injury mouse model[9] and the challenges in developing a universal influenza vaccine.[10] At the time of the COVID-19 pandemic she was employed at the Hong Kong School of Public Health, University of Hong Kong (HKU), conducting research specialised in virology and immunology.[11]

COVID-19
Yan claims that she was one of the first scientists in the world to study the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, after Leo Poon, her supervisor at HKU (a WHO reference lab), asked her to look into a cluster of SARS-like cases in Wuhan, in December 2019.[7] According to Fox News, Yan maintained an extensive network of medical professionals from mainland China, one of whom told Yan about human-to-human transmission of the novel disease on 31 December 2019.[12] According to Yan, she reported her findings about the virus multiple times to her superiors, including one on 16 January, after which she says she was warned by her supervisor "to keep silent and be careful."[13]
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i realize just how beyond crazy partisan this and other social media is, but none of us here know the actual truth on this including you.

what i do know, and all others should, is that if this is man made in China, that no truth on earth would be pushed back against more virulently and aggressively by the US and most govts, and all corporate media, which essentially means all media.

corporations don't fear the US govt, they control the US govt, but they absolutely do fear the Chinese govt whom they don't control, and whom they are dependent on.

it will be interesting to see if she can back up her claim.

that said, even if she can, the universal push back she would get from every direction and every powerful entity on earth, including the health science field which is still totally corporate or politically dependent, would still be almost impossible to overcome.

we might be able to handle the truth, but Wall St not so much.

if true, the corporate, financial, and political world, (basically all real power on earth), would fight that truth to the death like nothing else, which absolutely should be taken into account.
 
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nothing to see here, move along.

from your quoted Newsweek article.

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The paper, "Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Sophisticated Laboratory Modification Rather Than Natural Evolution and Delineation of Its Probable Synthetic Route," is authored by Dr. Li-Meng Yan and three colleagues affiliated with the Rule of Law Society, a group not known for its work on infectious disease.
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wtf happened to Newsweek?

is it even remotely possible to totally misrepresent who Li-Meng Yan and her colleagues are any more than this, and do so deliberately, knowingly, and with malice, for the express purpose of falsely discrediting who she and her colleagues are.



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"Background
Yan's hometown is Qingdao.[7] Yan received her MD degree from Xiangya Medical College of Central South University. She went on to earn her PhD from Southern Medical University.[8] Her research includes the study of The inhibition effect of propranolol on the corneal neovascularization in an alkali-induced injury mouse model[9] and the challenges in developing a universal influenza vaccine.[10] At the time of the COVID-19 pandemic she was employed at the Hong Kong School of Public Health, University of Hong Kong (HKU), conducting research specialised in virology and immunology.[11]

COVID-19
Yan claims that she was one of the first scientists in the world to study the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, after Leo Poon, her supervisor at HKU (a WHO reference lab), asked her to look into a cluster of SARS-like cases in Wuhan, in December 2019.[7] According to Fox News, Yan maintained an extensive network of medical professionals from mainland China, one of whom told Yan about human-to-human transmission of the novel disease on 31 December 2019.[12] According to Yan, she reported her findings about the virus multiple times to her superiors, including one on 16 January, after which she says she was warned by her supervisor "to keep silent and be careful."[13]
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i realize just how beyond crazy partisan this and other social media is, but none of us here know the actual truth on this including you.

what i do know, and all others should, is that if this is man made in China, that no truth on earth would be pushed back against more virulently and aggressively by the US and most govts, and all corporate media, which essentially means all media.

corporations don't fear the US govt, they control the US govt, but they absolutely do fear the Chinese govt whom they don't control, and whom they are dependent on.

it will be interesting to see if she can back up her claim.

that said, even if she can, the universal push back she would get from every direction and every powerful entity on earth, including the health science field which is still totally corporate or politically dependent, would still be almost impossible to overcome.

we might be able to handle the truth, but Wall St not so much.

if true, the corporate, financial, and political world, (basically all real power on earth), would fight that truth to the death like nothing else, which absolutely should be taken into account.
You might be the dumbest poster here, even with all the new arrivals.
 
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nothing to see here, move along.

from your quoted Newsweek article.

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The paper, "Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Sophisticated Laboratory Modification Rather Than Natural Evolution and Delineation of Its Probable Synthetic Route," is authored by Dr. Li-Meng Yan and three colleagues affiliated with the Rule of Law Society, a group not known for its work on infectious disease.
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wtf happened to Newsweek?

is it even remotely possible to totally misrepresent who Li-Meng Yan and her colleagues are any more than this, and do so deliberately, knowingly, and with malice, for the express purpose of falsely discrediting who she and her colleagues are.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Background
Yan's hometown is Qingdao.[7] Yan received her MD degree from Xiangya Medical College of Central South University. She went on to earn her PhD from Southern Medical University.[8] Her research includes the study of The inhibition effect of propranolol on the corneal neovascularization in an alkali-induced injury mouse model[9] and the challenges in developing a universal influenza vaccine.[10] At the time of the COVID-19 pandemic she was employed at the Hong Kong School of Public Health, University of Hong Kong (HKU), conducting research specialised in virology and immunology.[11]

COVID-19
Yan claims that she was one of the first scientists in the world to study the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, after Leo Poon, her supervisor at HKU (a WHO reference lab), asked her to look into a cluster of SARS-like cases in Wuhan, in December 2019.[7] According to Fox News, Yan maintained an extensive network of medical professionals from mainland China, one of whom told Yan about human-to-human transmission of the novel disease on 31 December 2019.[12] According to Yan, she reported her findings about the virus multiple times to her superiors, including one on 16 January, after which she says she was warned by her supervisor "to keep silent and be careful."[13]
----------------------------------------------------------------------


i realize just how beyond crazy partisan this and other social media is, but none of us here know the actual truth on this including you.

what i do know, and all others should, is that if this is man made in China, that no truth on earth would be pushed back against more virulently and aggressively by the US and most govts, and all corporate media, which essentially means all media.

corporations don't fear the US govt, they control the US govt, but they absolutely do fear the Chinese govt whom they don't control, and whom they are dependent on.

it will be interesting to see if she can back up her claim.

that said, even if she can, the universal push back she would get from every direction and every powerful entity on earth, including the health science field which is still totally corporate or politically dependent, would still be almost impossible to overcome.

we might be able to handle the truth, but Wall St not so much.

if true, the corporate, financial, and political world, (basically all real power on earth), would fight that truth to the death like nothing else, which absolutely should be taken into account.

So, you are basing your whole argument on the word "if"?
 
nothing to see here, move along.

from your quoted Newsweek article.

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The paper, "Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Sophisticated Laboratory Modification Rather Than Natural Evolution and Delineation of Its Probable Synthetic Route," is authored by Dr. Li-Meng Yan and three colleagues affiliated with the Rule of Law Society, a group not known for its work on infectious disease.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


wtf happened to Newsweek?

is it even remotely possible to totally misrepresent who Li-Meng Yan and her colleagues are any more than this, and do so deliberately, knowingly, and with malice, for the express purpose of falsely discrediting who she and her colleagues are.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Background
Yan's hometown is Qingdao.[7] Yan received her MD degree from Xiangya Medical College of Central South University. She went on to earn her PhD from Southern Medical University.[8] Her research includes the study of The inhibition effect of propranolol on the corneal neovascularization in an alkali-induced injury mouse model[9] and the challenges in developing a universal influenza vaccine.[10] At the time of the COVID-19 pandemic she was employed at the Hong Kong School of Public Health, University of Hong Kong (HKU), conducting research specialised in virology and immunology.[11]

COVID-19
Yan claims that she was one of the first scientists in the world to study the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, after Leo Poon, her supervisor at HKU (a WHO reference lab), asked her to look into a cluster of SARS-like cases in Wuhan, in December 2019.[7] According to Fox News, Yan maintained an extensive network of medical professionals from mainland China, one of whom told Yan about human-to-human transmission of the novel disease on 31 December 2019.[12] According to Yan, she reported her findings about the virus multiple times to her superiors, including one on 16 January, after which she says she was warned by her supervisor "to keep silent and be careful."[13]
----------------------------------------------------------------------


i realize just how beyond crazy partisan this and other social media is, but none of us here know the actual truth on this including you.

what i do know, and all others should, is that if this is man made in China, that no truth on earth would be pushed back against more virulently and aggressively by the US and most govts, and all corporate media, which essentially means all media.

corporations don't fear the US govt, they control the US govt, but they absolutely do fear the Chinese govt whom they don't control, and whom they are dependent on.

it will be interesting to see if she can back up her claim.

that said, even if she can, the universal push back she would get from every direction and every powerful entity on earth, including the health science field which is still totally corporate or politically dependent, would still be almost impossible to overcome.

we might be able to handle the truth, but Wall St not so much.

if true, the corporate, financial, and political world, (basically all real power on earth), would fight that truth to the death like nothing else, which absolutely should be taken into account.
Her claim is based on her own scientific analysis of the virus’ genome - not any firsthand knowledge of work in a lab in China where the virus was supposedly created. She’s got scientific credentials. But so what? It’s not like the people saying her analysis is flawed merely slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night,
 
Oh, and one of the founders of the “research institute” behind the paper, a “research institute” of zero credibility, is none other than Steve Bannon.
Bwahahahaha. Bless your heart IGW.
 
She’s got scientific credentials. But so what? It’s not like the people saying her analysis is flawed merely slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night,

To be more specific, the people who say that her analysis is laughably flawed are from places like Harvard, MIT, Oxford, Scripps Research, Broad Institute, Stanford, etc. At some point you need to weigh the expertise of the people proposing alternative ideas, if you can't evaluate the data firsthand.
 
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Maybe, VictorBear was back a few days ago. And then ther's our resident man of god.

Hey everyone sorry not to get back to you sooner. I posted and as is often the case went on to other things/threads. So it was only now that I read all of your good wishes and messages of sympathy... To say I was touched is an understatement...

To be honest, I probably shouldn't have even mentioned my brother's passing, but I wanted to illustrate just how entertaining and funny this thread was. I'm doing fine-he's been terminal for the past 6 mos or so, and we knew it was coming. He's a year younger so we've basically known each other for 64+ yrs, and the reality is he made a lot of very unfortunate choices.

Just want to thank all of you for the kind words and sincere thoughts. I've come to think of this place as a family of sorts, and I enjoy being a part of it. Go Hoosiers!!!!
 
Hey everyone sorry not to get back to you sooner. I posted and as is often the case went on to other things/threads. So it was only now that I read all of your good wishes and messages of sympathy... To say I was touched is an understatement...

To be honest, I probably shouldn't have even mentioned my brother's passing, but I wanted to illustrate just how entertaining and funny this thread was. I'm doing fine-he's been terminal for the past 6 mos or so, and we knew it was coming. He's a year younger so we've basically known each other for 64+ yrs, and the reality is he made a lot of very unfortunate choices.

Just want to thank all of you for the kind words and sincere thoughts. I've come to think of this place as a family of sorts, and I enjoy being a part of it. Go Hoosiers!!!!

So sorry to read about your brother Cosmic. I wish you and your family all the best.
 
we don't know what we don't know.

and unfortunately, nobody who gets their funding from Wall St or any of the western govts would ever be able to politically or financially say this was man made by China.

sad fact is, China owns us.
You have to be smart enough to know when you don’t know!
 
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