that someday people will again be judged by the content of their character rather the color of their skin. It’s a critical issue.
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that someday people will again be judged by the content of their character rather the color of their skin. It’s a critical issue.
I have a dream that someday you'll start a thread that's actually worth reading.that someday people will again be judged by the content of their character rather the color of their skin. It’s a critical issue.
Yeah. Racial harmony is overrated.I have a dream that someday you'll start a thread that's actually worth reading.
You've deliberately misquoted King. You're truly troubled.Yeah. Racial harmony is overrated.
We need more taxes, less cops, crappy lightbulbs and free weed.
Yep. That’s the issue. Whole country ignores King - OK. I don’t quote him - BIG trouble at the Cooler.You've deliberately misquoted King. You're truly troubled.
Democrats criticize conservatives for cherry picking their favorite MLK quotes and ignoring others that might make them uncomfortable.Yep. That’s the issue. Whole country ignores King - OK. I don’t quote him - BIG trouble at the Cooler.
Having said that......... Wasn't his central thesis to see people as individuals and put aside each others immutable characteristics?
Now yer talkin!Yeah. Racial harmony is overrated.
We need more taxes, less cops, crappy lightbulbs and free weed.
The tactic is shaming cops as racists' because they shot a black person who was about to stab another black person to death.That was the goal, not the tactic.
MLK's Letter from a Birmingham Jail said:I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.
In your statement you assert that our actions, even though peaceful, must be condemned because they precipitate violence. But is this a logical assertion? Isn't this like condemning a robbed man because his possession of money precipitated the evil act of robbery? Isn't this like condemning Socrates because his unswerving commitment to truth and his philosophical inquiries precipitated the act by the misguided populace in which they made him drink hemlock? Isn't this like condemning Jesus because his unique God consciousness and never ceasing devotion to God's will precipitated the evil act of crucifixion? We must come to see that, as the federal courts have consistently affirmed, it is wrong to urge an individual to cease his efforts to gain his basic constitutional rights because the quest may precipitate violence. Society must protect the robbed and punish the robber. I had also hoped that the white moderate would reject the myth concerning time in relation to the struggle for freedom. I have just received a letter from a white brother in Texas. He writes: "All Christians know that the colored people will receive equal rights eventually, but it is possible that you are in too great a religious hurry. It has taken Christianity almost two thousand years to accomplish what it has. The teachings of Christ take time to come to earth." Such an attitude stems from a tragic misconception of time, from the strangely irrational notion that there is something in the very flow of time that will inevitably cure all ills. Actually, time itself is neutral; it can be used either destructively or constructively. More and more I feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than have the people of good will. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people but for the appalling silence of the good people. Human progress never rolls in on wheels of inevitability; it comes through the tireless efforts of men willing to be co workers with God, and without this hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation. We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right. Now is the time to make real the promise of democracy and transform our pending national elegy into a creative psalm of brotherhood. Now is the time to lift our national policy from the quicksand of racial injustice to the solid rock of human dignity.
In other words, harmony for harmony's sake is overrated.MLK had a dream. He was not so naïve to believe that dreaming was the way to achieve that state.
I'm on board for the weed part.Yeah. Racial harmony is overrated.
We need more taxes, less cops, crappy lightbulbs and free weed.
I think unrest for the sake of political gain is more overrated.In other words, harmony for harmony's sake is overrated.
The tactic is shaming cops as racists' because they shot a black person who was about to stab another black person to death.
In all seriousness, what tactics can we use to see people as individuals?
I suggest acknowledging them as an individual outside of whatever socially constructed group they may or may not belong to.
You will note he lamented the violence of the whites who opposed his “non-violent direct action”. He did not accept engaging in violence - even when noting that a riot is the voice of the unheard.MLK had a dream. He was not so naïve to believe that dreaming was the way to achieve that state.
It can be. On the other hand, political gain that involves a power shift from the majority to the minority rarely occurs without some form of unrest.I think unrest for the sake of political gain is more overrated.
The Bill of Rights called.It can be. On the other hand, political gain that involves a power shift from the majority to the minority rarely occurs without some form of unrest.
Yet slavery continued another 90 years. I don't think MLK would have found your response satisfactory.The Bill of Rights called.
Left a message:
“We exist.”
What if some people truly believe that and this whole silly 'systemic racism' thing doesn't exist as the police are neutral, education is available to everyone and if you don't make it its because of a lack of self accountability and grit.
It's not racist. The reason why whites are more successful is simply because they are better, smarter and have a stronger work ethic.
It's gotta be one or the other.
Simply put if a person truly believes that we've reached a point in our society where everyone has the same opportunities and 'systemic racism' is just a political fairy dust used by the libs to make a scene then that would mean by looking at the scoreboard that whites and white culture is simply better.
So is it racism or white supremacy?
That is what the left believe because they have convinced the blacks that they can't survive on their own and have to have help from the left.The reason why whites are more successful is simply because they are better, smarter and have a stronger Tawork et
Slavery ended in many states in the 18th century. The slave debate never ended until we fought a war about it. Nobody really knows what MLK would have thought of what the race discussion has become. it‘s pretty obvious to me that based on the I Have A Dream speech, MLK would strongly disagree with the whole idea that race determines destiny and all white people are racist. But as a whole all of us were a lot more congenial than we are today.Yet slavery continued another 90 years. I don't think MLK would have found your response satisfactory.
Yet slavery continued another 90 years. I don't think MLK would have found your response satisfactory.
Just so I can be clear, what time period are you referring to as "more congenial than we are today"?But as a whole all of us were a lot more congenial than we are today.
Yesterday, the day before, and the day before that etc,Just so I can be clear, what time period are you referring to as "more congenial than we are today"?
What if some people truly believe that and this whole silly 'systemic racism' thing doesn't exist as the police are neutral, education is available to everyone and if you don't make it its because of a lack of self accountability and grit.
It's not racist. The reason why whites are more successful is simply because they are better, smarter and have a stronger work ethic.
It's gotta be one or the other.
Simply put if a person truly believes that we've reached a point in our society where everyone has the same opportunities and 'systemic racism' is just a political fairy dust used by the libs to make a scene then that would mean by looking at the scoreboard that whites and white culture is simply better.
So is it racism or white supremacy?
Or...hear me out...there are factors at play that exist outside the color of one's skin. I think there are universal truths that lead to success and if you as an individual have your priorities set to those truths, then you are likely to be successful.
That is not to say that you will not face obstacles and that some of those obstacles may at times be based on some people's perception of how you look but everyone has a chance. We need to stop selling people on the idea that they are screwed from the day they are born because of things they cannot impact.
Full stop telling people that many of the things on this list is "white culture" is stupid. Many of those things are points for "how to be successful in the developed world".
Why relinquish those things as "White culture" though?I have looked over that graphic on what is White culture. But nowhere on that graphic do I see a value judgment as to those things being bad or "stupid".
How do you measure whether we were more congenial yesterday than today, and more congenial the day before yesterday than we were yesterday? Is there data to back this up?Yesterday, the day before, and the day before that etc,
Yes!!!! You just signed up for an M.A. in Public Policy from COH UHow do you measure whether we were more congenial yesterday than today, and more congenial the day before yesterday than we were yesterday? Is there data to back this up?
And who is "we"?
Would I be correct in inferring that you are saying the further we go back in time, the more congenial "we" were? If so, does this apply to the last week? Month? Year? Decade? Century?
You have made a fascinating statement, and I wish to learn more of your theory.
I have looked over that graphic on what is White culture. But nowhere on that graphic do I see a value judgment as to those things being bad or "stupid".
You missed the point. The stupidity lies in describing those things as “white culture“ not that those things are inherently stupid. They are all earmarks of the kind of culture MLK sought for all people. Now these things are degraded for being white supremacy, privilege, or what have you. The Democrats apply this brand of racism every day as they suggest blacks can’t get an identification because—well, they don’t know how to.I have looked over that graphic on what is White culture. But nowhere on that graphic do I see a value judgment as to those things being bad or "stupid".
Fair question. The evidence is all through observing much individual and institutional behavior. One small piece. I’m old enough to remember when people of good faith voiced strong objections to using firehoses and dogs on peaceful marchers carrying American Flags. Now we have elected officials encouraging violent protesters who carry bricks and Molotov cocktails.How do you measure whether we were more congenial yesterday than today, and more congenial the day before yesterday than we were yesterday? Is there data to back this up?
And who is "we"?
Would I be correct in inferring that you are saying the further we go back in time, the more congenial "we" were? If so, does this apply to the last week? Month? Year? Decade? Century?
You have made a fascinating statement, and I wish to learn more of your theory.
Fair question. The evidence is all through observing much individual and institutional behavior. One small piece. I’m old enough to remember when people of good faith voiced strong objections to using firehoses and dogs on peaceful marchers carrying American Flags. Now we have elected officials encouraging violent protesters who carry bricks and Molotov cocktails.
We also have POTUS lying about Jim Crow on Steroids when talking about a sovereign state government, harassing public servants at their homes, disciplining or worse of students and faculty for saying the wrong thing, the list goes on.
What if some people truly believe that and this whole silly 'systemic racism' thing doesn't exist as the police are neutral, education is available to everyone and if you don't make it its because of a lack of self accountability and grit.
It's not racist. The reason why whites are more successful is simply because they are better, smarter and have a stronger work ethic.
It's gotta be one or the other.
Simply put if a person truly believes that we've reached a point in our society where everyone has the same opportunities and 'systemic racism' is just a political fairy dust used by the libs to make a scene then that would mean by looking at the scoreboard that whites and white culture is simply better.
So is it racism or white supremacy?
Or black immigrants vis-a-vis Native born black people. Immigrant privilege?Culture matters. A lot. Otherwise, please explain the success of the Asian population vis-a-vis the white population. Asian privilege?
So, once again, no real data, proof, evidence, etc on the decreasing level of congeniality in this country.Fair question. The evidence is all through observing much individual and institutional behavior. One small piece. I’m old enough to remember when people of good faith voiced strong objections to using firehoses and dogs on peaceful marchers carrying American Flags. Now we have elected officials encouraging violent protesters who carry bricks and Molotov cocktails.
We also have POTUS lying about Jim Crow on Steroids when talking about a sovereign state government, harassing public servants at their homes, disciplining or worse of students and faculty for saying the wrong thing, the list goes on.
Systemic racism in the form of Welfare programs that blew up the nuclear black family does exist and needs to be done away with.